Jason Gram

BringBackMadDog · Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:15pm

Is this guy the most over rated player on our list? He is terrible in a contest, refuses to tackle will not put his head over the footy and burns the ball more than most. He had 14 possies today and an efficiency rate of 57%!! He has got way ahead of himself must go back to the basics, if it wasn't for his pace he would offer nothing at the moment.

The_Dud · Post: # 546597Post **The_Dud** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:16pm

he's just trying to kick it too hard

also, should never be played as a defensive player, cos he isn't one, when will Ross learn?

barks4eva · Post: # 546598Post **barks4eva** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:17pm

Gram is NOT a defender, FAIR DINKUM when will we ever have a coach who wakes up to this fact.

Play him on the wing F fornication's sake

FAIR DINKUM

Eastern · Post: # 546606Post **Eastern** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:22pm

It might just be that he has been drinking some of his own bath water and believes that he should kick the ball 60m+ every time he gets it. Hopefully someone gets in his ear because he is and can be a very good player !!

Sobraz · Post: # 546653Post **Sobraz** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 7:44pm

has been getting progressively worse every gam ethis year...

Trying to do too much, then second guuessing... And his kicking has gone to the dogs...

Serious question marks over him at the moment... Not enough k's in the tank to be overlooked unfortunately.

Zippy · Post: # 546733Post **Zippy** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 8:30pm

He's been awesome there in the past. I think he's just expecting it too be easier than it actually is.

He might need to be dropped for a week or two just to wake him up, or maybe just slapped in the head a few times.

He can be a great rebounding backman, or a superb wingman, if he's in form.

saintsrus · Post: # 546790Post **saintsrus** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 8:50pm

He was practicing the torp even in the warm up

Eastern · Post: # 546796Post **Eastern** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 8:55pm

I just watched the tape of the 1st 1/2. Gram has about 1/2 tonne of strapping on his right leg !!

saintspremiers · Sat 12 Apr 2008 9:25pm

His decision making is becoming terrible at times.

The old "Grambulance" is back on the road, and he can be a liability more often than an asset.

Enrico_Misso · Sat 12 Apr 2008 10:08pm

I don't think he is fully fit.
He has lost some speed.
Doesn't have the confidence to take on his man and run the lines.
And he is well down on bounces compared to last year.

rodgerfox · Post: # 546946Post **rodgerfox** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 10:22pm

barks4eva wrote:Gram is NOT a defender, FAIR DINKUM when will we ever have a coach who wakes up to this fact.

Play him on the wing F fornication's sake

FAIR DINKUM

A wing??

When was the last time anyone ever played as a geuine wingman?

1992?

Otiman · Post: # 546997Post **Otiman** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 10:43pm

rodgerfox wrote: A wing??

When was the last time anyone ever played as a geuine wingman?

1992?

I think Nicky Winmar was the last true wingman.

ausfatcat · Post: # 547001Post **ausfatcat** » Sat 12 Apr 2008 10:49pm

Otiman wrote:
rodgerfox wrote: A wing??

When was the last time anyone ever played as a geuine wingman?

1992?
I think Nicky Winmar was the last true wingman.

Matera in my books

saintsRrising · Sat 12 Apr 2008 10:50pm

Peter Matera in 1995....

He played after that...but was on the HBF.

However Aussie at the Saints was on the wing after that...but was at his best on the HBF .

saintsRrising · Sat 12 Apr 2008 10:51pm

Back on Gram,...good teams have worked him out.

He either needs to reinvent himself....or the coach needs to try him elswhere.

Post: # 547168Post **n1ck** » Sun 13 Apr 2008 12:45am

Has been woeful this year.

I love him and everything but i cant say it enough after today - this bloke needs a week or two in the scorps to re-invent himself.

Has been getting worse and worse every week and was a liability today.

Over and over again he puts teammates under pressure with lax handballs or high field kicking to a contest / 2 on 1.

Doesnt seem to have the same zip around the ground as he used to either.

With Dal's troubles at the moment too, I feel we'd be better off with Dal running off a half back flank and dropping Grambulance down to the twos for a while.

karnaby · Post: # 547202Post **karnaby** » Sun 13 Apr 2008 1:03am

Had the opportunity to get us going at the start of the second half & failed pathetically by kicking the ball low which allowed it to be rushed thru. I reckon it really deflated things when it should have done the exact opposite.

Also it seemed that a lot of geelong's scoring was set up by his opponents especially in the first half when kelly cut him up badly.

Obviously he can be good on the rebound but his defense can be very, very costly. I'd like to see him play further forward in the hope that he can provide the option to kick the odd long goal & that might outweigh some of his defensive ineptitude.

st_Trav_ofWA · Sun 13 Apr 2008 1:37am

i dont get how the coach can preach playing acountable one on one footy with a spare man in defence ? Gram couldnt defend to save his life the ploy of having him as a decoy defender who rebounded out of defence has been exposed for almost a year now adapt or extinction Grammy we cant dish up the same crap time and time again causeit worked 2years ago premiership teams develop game styles not copy them

midas_touch · Sun 13 Apr 2008 2:23am

Shanked most of his kicks today, and I agree he has been very ordinary so far this season. Perhaps a stint in the seconds will provide him with the kick up the backside that he needs at the moment.

ace · Post: # 547294Post **ace** » Sun 13 Apr 2008 2:32am

He needs to coached to watch the ball onto his boot.
But when was the last time a coach ever coached.

St Fidelius · Sun 13 Apr 2008 3:37pm

We got rid of Brent Guerra and picked up Jason Gram....

I know who I would prefer to have in our starting 22....

Guerra is a far better player IMO, can kick to position compared to Gram who often turns the ball with poor disposals

Solar · Post: # 547496Post **Solar** » Sun 13 Apr 2008 4:01pm

Tends to try and kick the leather off the ball. Needs to go back to pin pointing 40 metre kicks and reserve the longer kicks when he spots someone on the lead. Might be better if we runn him as an onballer off the bench (insteed of fiora) and work BJ and geary into his HB positions.

Hard at it · Post: # 547657Post **Hard at it** » Sun 13 Apr 2008 7:41pm

BringBackMadDog wrote:Is this guy the most over rated player on our list? He is terrible in a contest, refuses to tackle will not put his head over the footy and burns the ball more than most. He had 14 possies today and an efficiency rate of 57%!! He has got way ahead of himself must go back to the basics, if it wasn't for his pace he would offer nothing at the moment.

He has been terrible. He butchers the ball constantly and loves hanballing to people flat footed. Definitely overrated, but he's not alone, he has a few friends i'm afraid.

Eastern · Post: # 547757Post **Eastern** » Sun 13 Apr 2008 9:06pm

Is Grammy carrying a hip injury? !!

St Fidelius · Sun 13 Apr 2008 9:48pm

Eastern wrote:Is Grammy carrying a hip injury? !!

He maybe and that doesn't help when he's carrying a handbag...

Needs to show more aggression at the ball like many players on our list IMO

We seem to lack players that show "real" aggression at the ball...

Hayes is a great example of players we need at the club.

Gram, Dal, Ralf Clarke and many others need to step up...

Again Guerra was and is a player that has aggression at the ball and we got rid of him and picked up Gram...

It really makes you wonder

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