Koschitzke's goal kicking...

[Sam23]

Shaky at best at Intra Club and 2.2 tonight with 1 Out on the full.

Hopefully can improve this before round 1.

[Iceman234]

Yes I think it's a disgrace and I will be bitterly disappointed if this kicks his Sportsbet odds any higher than the $81 he's currently showing.....

Disgraceful and I hope he kicks that badly next week...

[Iceman234]

3167 KOSCHITZKE Justin (STK) Open $81.00

[Teflon]

Its frustrared me for some time but when you think about it this is probably the first time he gets to "settle" in a spot (if rucks stand up) and concentrate on goalkicking.

He kicks ok (hes no trent Knobel)....its IMO a mental thing and he will get better.

[Oh When the Saints]

He's normally a terrific kick for goal ... one of the blokes whose hands you want the ball in under pressure.

[Enrico_Misso]

Kosi may have had the wobbles tonight.

But G train hasn't lost that beautiful left foot.
What about that set shot in the left pocket that swung in from right to left ?

And generally our kicking was pretty good.
There were a few good snap goals.
And some terrific field kicks to leading players.

[Enrico_Misso]

Speaking of goals, does anyone know how these stupid super-goals get assessed ?

Monty kicked one before half time that wasn't paid.
Then suddenly half way through the 3rd quarter it "appeared" on the scoreboard.

Is there a third umpire watching replays ?
How does that work ?
And why did it take such an incredibly long time to correct such an obvious mistake ?

Peronally I think it is a stupid concept and we should be playing under uniform rules.

[Iceman234]

Apparently Joey's was re-assessed at half time and paid as it should have been at the time.

[SaintBot]

Speaking of goals, does anyone know how these stupid super-goals get assessed ?

Monty kicked one before half time that wasn't paid.
Then suddenly half way through the 3rd quarter it "appeared" on the scoreboard.

Is there a third umpire watching replays ?
How does that work ?
And why did it take such an incredibly long time to correct such an obvious mistake ?

Peronally I think it is a stupid concept and we should be playing under uniform rules.

there was an announcement at halftime correcting the mistake

the scoreboard changed at the sametime

that happens a fair bit and everyone could see, especially after the replay, that it was a nine pointer but they have to wait till the next break for it to change


imagine the uproar if the scores were changed after the match meaning team A, who "won" by two points now lose to team B by a point due to a unrewarded nine pointer being corrected after the siren

[Eastern]

Yes I think it's a disgrace and I will be bitterly disappointed if this kicks his Sportsbet odds any higher than the $81 he's currently showing.....

Disgraceful and I hope he kicks that badly next week...

Exactly how much are you intending to punt on him ? !!

[rexy]

Think he will get it right. His ball drop looks o.k to me, nice and straight, guides the ball down, just a bit rusty and a bit of nerves first game of the year I would say.

[rodgerfox]

Think he will get it right. His ball drop looks o.k to me, nice and straight, guides the ball down, just a bit rusty and a bit of nerves first game of the year I would say.

He tries to kick it too hard.

Alot get confused between the concept of kicking through the ball, and kicking it too hard.

You don't have to kick it hard to kick through it.

Kosi has always been a woeful kick for goal.

[timclark27]

This is just the first game geez give him a break. Roo had the yips for 6 months.

[ausfatcat]

Some observations from the last couple of years


When Kosi is kicking well Roo is not

When Roo is kicking well Kosi is not.


So by my theory Roo will kick 100 goals straight this year

[yipper]

Think he will get it right. His ball drop looks o.k to me, nice and straight, guides the ball down, just a bit rusty and a bit of nerves first game of the year I would say.

He tries to kick it too hard.

Alot get confused between the concept of kicking through the ball, and kicking it too hard.

You don't have to kick it hard to kick through it.

Kosi has always been a woeful kick for goal.

Absolute rubbish!! Kosi has always been very reliable and particularly so from long range. It has only been in the last part of last season and through this season ( intra-club and Rd 1 NAB) that he has developed the yips!! Up until recently - the one bloke you'd want to have an important shot at goal - cos he would kick those big goals!! Boy, are you becoming a sad-sack lately!!!

[rodgerfox]

Think he will get it right. His ball drop looks o.k to me, nice and straight, guides the ball down, just a bit rusty and a bit of nerves first game of the year I would say.

He tries to kick it too hard.

Alot get confused between the concept of kicking through the ball, and kicking it too hard.

You don't have to kick it hard to kick through it.

Kosi has always been a woeful kick for goal.

Absolute rubbish!! Kosi has always been very reliable and particularly so from long range. It has only been in the last part of last season and through this season ( intra-club and Rd 1 NAB) that he has developed the yips!! Up until recently - the one bloke you'd want to have an important shot at goal - cos he would kick those big goals!! Boy, are you becoming a sad-sack lately!!!

His career is at 93 goals 52 behinds. Not great at all.

Before last year it was still average, at 67-39.

His goal kicking has always been poor - particularly in 05 with 24-14 and the in 06 he kicked 6 goals 8!

This also doesn't include out on the full which he has had plenty of.

[Huzzad]

I've noticed over the years that Kosi has been very inaccurate. Last night was no different. Has had some games where he is accurate, but I have found since his debut that he has been consistantly inconsistant in front of goal. Definatly needs to be assessed if he is going to play a more prominant role in the forward line.

As for the G-Train, his kicking was magnificent. 3 from 3. Pitty about the penalty he gave away, but watching the replay, the other guy did have his hands around the throat, so it was petty 50-50. Umpire just picked up for the retailiation, rather than the initial argy-bargy from the Richmond player. Other than that, G had a great night, not spectacular, but was a very valuable contributer, and used the ball well up the ground too.

[hAyES]

It's definately a huge concern. With him and Riewoldt in there I can see this becoming a huge problem for us.

[Oh When the Saints]

His career is at 93 goals 52 behinds. Not great at all.

64%?

That's average for a full forward.

It's actually pretty good IMO.

[casey scorp]

His career is at 93 goals 52 behinds. Not great at all.

64%?

That's average for a full forward.

It's actually pretty good IMO.

Correct!

Plugger - 70%
Coventry - 60%
Dunstall - 66%
Wade - 60%
Ablett (senior) - 60%
Lloyd (to end 2006) - 56%
Carey - 61%

He's in some good company. Mind you they all kicked a hell of a lot more goals than Kosi ever will.

[Pwoit]

OK for those who missed it - here it is again

[ausfatcat]

what was heatly's percentage?

[ausfatcat]

what was heatly's percentage?

67%

some others

Franklin 59%
Sav 64%
Gehrig 66%
Hall 55%
Loydd 68% (whole career)
richo 59%
Judd 57%
Jarman 64%

Kosi's aint half bad.


Milne's

year 2002 81%
year 2005 75%

fair effort those two years.

[st_Trav_ofWA]

i remember another bloke who could mark anything and every thing but would butcher the kick funny enuff he wore 23 for the saints as well but if i also remember correctly he fixed that problem and ended up being an all round champion of the club

[Otiman]

i remember another bloke who could mark anything and every thing but would butcher the kick funny enuff he wore 23 for the saints as well but if i also remember correctly he fixed that problem and ended up being an all round champion of the club

We need to get Peter Hudson in on this one too?