Best Players per number in last 20 years (1987-2007)

[older saint]

JUst an exercise I was doing with a couple mates. We went to 20. Please feel free to fill in the gaps:

1. SOS
2. G Williams
3. M Voss
4. A Lockett
5. G Ablett
6.
7. N Winmar
8.
9.
10.
11. G. Archer
12. M Richardson (better than Riewoldt at the moment for career) won't be popular call though
13. M Long
14. P Kelly
15.
16.
17. G Mckenna?
18. W Carey
19. J Dunstall
20. D Cox
21. C Bradley
22.
23. D Brereton/A Mcleod
24. C Langford
25.
26.
27.
28.
29.
30. P Matera
31. D Fletcher
32.M Riccuttio
33. M Knights
34.
35. R Harvey
36. A Goodwin
37. A Goodes
38.
39.
40
41. T Pekin
42.
43.
44. J Platten

Hope I got players numbers correct. We had more but cannot remember numbers of glen Jacovich, I thnk Mckenna was 17. Anyway fill in the gaps at will

[Otiman]

Feel free to trump me on these ones. Going borderline on a few guys like Tuck, Madden, Ayres and Watson that were also around before the cut off date, but retired some time after 1990.

My suggestions for improvements to your guys in brackets. Filled in most of the blanks. 16 and 28 are tough. I think it's a pretty comprehensive list, I've mostly ignored players with less than 200 games.

1. S. Silvagni
2. G Williams
3. M. Voss
4. A Lockett
5. G. Ablett
6. B. Johnson
7. N. Winmar (D. Hawkins, S. West, P. Couch, G. Ayres)
8. D. Bewick
9. B. Cousins (S. Crawford)
10. P. Everitt (G. O'Donnell)
11. G. Archer
12. M. Richardson (J. Akermanis, N. Riewoldt)
13. M. Long
14. P. Kelly (L. Darcy)
15. P. Riccardi (M. Michael)
16.
17. G. Mckenna (Tuck)
18. W. Carey
19. J. Dunstall
20. D. Cox (S. Black)
21. C. Bradley
22. T. Shaw
23. D. Brereton (A Mcleod, S. Loewe, J. Leppitsch)
24. C. Langford (J. Worsfold)
25. S. Lucas (B. Hall at St. K)
26. M. Bickley (N. Dal Santo, G. Brown, M. Thompson)
27. S. Madden (G. Jakovich)
28.
29. M. Pavlich
30. P Matera
31. D. Fletcher (C. McKernan)
32. M. Riccuttio (T. Watson, G. Hocking)
33. M. Knights
34. J. White (D. King)
35. R. Harvey
36. S. Goodwin
37. A. Goodes
38.
39.
40 T. Schwarze (As long as that goal vs Brisbane stays in my memory!)
41. T. Pekin
42.
43. A. Koutoufides
44. J. Platten (N. Lappin)

[Saints Premiers 2008]

pav at 29???

no other 29's really stand out...

[The_Dud]

i'd already put Riewoldt ahead of Richo

i think Richo's only won 1 B&F (last year?) and Roo's already won 3 B&F's, and in a much stronger team mind you

[LENNY LEADS THE WAY]

number 36 A goodwin who's that? i only no Simon Goodwin is there some1 i'm forgetting?

[older saint]

Feel free to trump me on these ones. Going borderline on a few guys like Tuck, Madden, Ayres and Watson that were also around before the cut off date, but retired some time after 1990.

My suggestions for improvements to your guys in brackets. Filled in most of the blanks. 16 and 28 are tough. I think it's a pretty comprehensive list, I've mostly ignored players with less than 200 games.

1. S. Silvagni
2. G Williams
3. M. Voss
4. A Lockett
5. G. Ablett
6. B. Johnson
7. N. Winmar (D. Hawkins, S. West, P. Couch, G. Ayres)
8. D. Bewick
9. B. Cousins (S. Crawford)
10. P. Everitt (G. O'Donnell)
11. G. Archer
12. M. Richardson (J. Akermanis, N. Riewoldt)
13. M. Long
14. P. Kelly (L. Darcy)
15. P. Riccardi (M. Michael)
16.
17. G. Mckenna (Tuck)
18. W. Carey
19. J. Dunstall
20. D. Cox (S. Black)
21. C. Bradley
22. T. Shaw
23. D. Brereton (A Mcleod, S. Loewe, J. Leppitsch)
24. C. Langford (J. Worsfold)
25. S. Lucas (B. Hall at St. K)
26. M. Bickley (N. Dal Santo, G. Brown, M. Thompson)
27. S. Madden (G. Jakovich)
28.
29. M. Pavlich
30. P Matera
31. D. Fletcher (C. McKernan)
32. M. Riccuttio (T. Watson, G. Hocking)
33. M. Knights
34. J. White (D. King)
35. R. Harvey
36. S. Goodwin
37. A. Goodes
38.
39.
40 T. Schwarze (As long as that goal vs Brisbane stays in my memory!)
41. T. Pekin
42.
43. A. Koutoufides
44. J. Platten (N. Lappin)

Perhaps M Capuano ( at North) at 16?
Sorry should have been S Goodwin my bad.
Would probably have G Brown before Bickley and O'Donnell in front of Everitt and Javocich over MAdden due to time frame

[TimeToShineFellas]

42 - Darren Millane
34 - Michael McGuane

[Otiman]

There were a lot of great #3's #4's and #5's - Might have a go at rating them at some stage.

[CURLY]

Billy Brownless # 16

[SENsei]

J Brown wears #16.

#39 - Ang Christou
#38 - Sean Denham
#6 - Sean Wellman
#28 - Cain Ackland.....

[riccardo]

#28 - Cain Ackland.....

If "Mr jumps 10,000 years too early" is the best #28 in 20 years how bad are the rest?

[SENsei]

#28 - Cain Ackland.....

If "Mr jumps 10,000 years too early" is the best #28 in 20 years how bad are the rest?

Yes, that was rather cheeky of me.

Try, Kane Johnson in his Adelaide days. Two time premiership player.

[ctqs]

I would argue Plugger was the best player to wear the #14. He had that number the year he kicked his first ton and won the Brownlow.

[TimeToShineFellas]

60. Nicky Winmar for most of the match versus Geelong in the 1991 Final at Waverley Park

[cowboy18]

60. Nicky Winmar for most of the match versus Geelong in the 1991 Final at Waverley Park

Is someone perhaps forgetting Dermott McNicholl?

[robbie muir]

And what a great 3 games Dermot played.

[battye]

1. Justin Peckett

[Winmarvellous]

Just by reading this, how could Akermanis not be the best number 12. A brownlow and three premierships absolutely dwarves anything Richo or Roo have accomplished in their careers. We constantly talk about how good Harves is for his two Brownlows and longevity, let's not think he would love that resume.

[Armoooo]

pav at 29???

no other 29's really stand out...

I think you're forgetting a certain St.Kilda ruckman....
Better hope B4E doesn't read this...

[TimeToShineFellas]

60. Nicky Winmar for most of the match versus Geelong in the 1991 Final at Waverley Park

Is someone perhaps forgetting Dermott McNicholl?

Sorry for the oversight

[ThomasR]

Applied a 'dream team' formula to stats of the last 20 years (propped goals up to 9 so Plugger beat Daniel Cross into the number 4 spot).. here's what I got (50 games min.)

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guernsey  player                average  games 
--------  -------------------  --------  ------
       1  Peter Everitt         93.0833      72
       2  Greg Williams         89.5674     178
       3  Mark Bairstow         93.9403     134
       4  Tony Lockett         101.4919     185
       5  Gary Ablett snr      103.2240     183
       6  Brad Johnson          92.5310     290
       7  Nathan Brown          91.6078      51
       8  Daryn Cresswell       88.1371     197
       9  Shane Crawford        88.6495     291
      10  Barry Mitchell        92.9184     147
      11  Gary Buckenara        92.8800      50
      12  Nick Riewoldt         94.4701     134
      13  Allen Jakovich        85.9259      54
      14  Luke Ball             86.8942     104
      15  Ben Allan             86.0109      92
      16  Warren Tredrea        89.1844     179
      17  Kane Johnson          80.0678      59
      18  Wayne Carey           98.1917     240
      19  Jason Dunstall       104.8704     216
      20  Simon Black           85.4811     212
      21  Shane Tuck            86.8406      69
      22  Tony Shaw             82.2707     133
      23  Stewart Loewe         90.9231     299
      24  Brent Stanton         89.0000      61
      25  Scott Lucas           82.2389     247
      26  Nick Dal Santo        81.5750     120
      27  Craig Starcevich      75.2857     119
      28  Chris Lewis           72.4010     202
      29  Matthew Pavlich       88.7200     175
      30  Peter Matera          79.3834     253
      31  Corey McKernan        75.9503     181
      32  Peter Bell            94.6133     150
      33  Paul Hudson           82.9589      73
      34  Mick McGuane          82.9530     149
      35  Robert Harvey         89.2141     355
      36  Dane Swan             85.0263      76
      37  Adam Goodes           80.7895     209
      38  Sean Denham           69.1127     142
      39  Heath Shaw            84.5094      53
      40  Scott Clayton         62.0392      51
      41  Tim Pekin             68.5714     112
      42  Darren Millane        87.7865      89
      43  Anthony Koutoufides   79.0971     278
      44  Nigel Lappin          83.9455     275
      45  Cameron Ling          82.2767     159
      46  Trent Carroll         32.5469      64
      47  Ricky Olarenshaw      61.5513      78
      48  Glen Jakovich         68.3548      62
      50  Ryan Turnbull         47.4729     129
      52  Shaun Rehn            72.8802     167

12, 14, 26 and 35 looking particularly good!

[esaint66]

pav at 29???

no other 29's really stand out...

I think you're forgetting a certain St.Kilda ruckman....
Better hope B4E read this...

what about thommo and aussie early in there career

[Otiman]

Just goes to show that while DT stats are a decent indication, they're not the answer to all "best player" arguments.

Voss vs Bairstow
Everitt vs Silvagni
Loewe vs Brereton

Should add some points for "premierships played in" and maybe that will even the scores a bit.

[The_Dud]

how about crawford - cousins, N Brown - Winmar

the dream team method has many flaws

[Otiman]

Crawford/Cousins is closer than #7.

N Brown
N. Winmar
P Couch
S. West
G. Ayres