E-mail from Archie RE Rookies

skeptic · Post: # 478027Post **skeptic** » Wed 17 Oct 2007 2:19pm

Hi all, sent this of to Mr. Fraser and he promptly responded...
(sorry if this has been posted somewhere I couldn't find)

"Hi Onder
Been a big few weeks at the club as we get everything in place for the lads return in a few weeks time.
I trust you are happy with the trade results and our new appointments off field.

Here are the details on the Rookies.

Upgrading Rookie Clinton Jones to the Senior List

Upgrading Rookie Jarryn Geary to the Senior List

Jayden Attard to be retained on the Rookie List

Robert Eddy to be retained on the Rookie List

Luke Van Rheenen to be retained on the Rookie List

James Wall has not been retained on our Rookie list and has been released

We are also highly likley to add one of our NSW Rookies to our Rookie list for the first time this year which is a product of our investment in NSW over the past few years this will be additional to our full Rookie complement of 6 Rookies for 2008
So we should have 7 Rookies in 2008 all going well.

All the best
Archie"

Batnoe · Post: # 478029Post **Batnoe** » Wed 17 Oct 2007 2:20pm

I am glad jarryn got a gig

Well done

GrumpyOne · Post: # 478030Post **GrumpyOne** » Wed 17 Oct 2007 2:20pm

Thanks Skeptic, and thanks to Archie too. Great communication.

HarveysDeciple · Wed 17 Oct 2007 2:21pm

Geary I imagine will play several senior games with the saints next year.

Very good prospect.

saintly · Post: # 478033Post **saintly** » Wed 17 Oct 2007 2:23pm

hey thats great news.

that means the saints will only pick 3 players in the national draft, unless they delist more!

would that be correct?

saintsRrising · Wed 17 Oct 2007 2:28pm

Great news...but SEVEN rookies???

Is that possible?

Is therea special addition for the Scholraship players.?

I thought that we had fisrt choice to select them with our last pick in the main draft?

Otiman · Post: # 478056Post **Otiman** » Wed 17 Oct 2007 2:43pm

Looks like we will not be using the Veterans listing for Harvs and Max.

By the sounds of things, the Scholarship rookies are able to be taken in addition to the 6 on the official rookie list.

i_luv_nick_riewoldt · Wed 17 Oct 2007 4:19pm

I dont exactly know alot about the rookies on our list... but jsut wondering opinions on the dropping of Wall! Was he a promising star? or was he skill lacking??

plugger66 · Post: # 478095Post **plugger66** » Wed 17 Oct 2007 4:21pm

i_luv_nick_riewoldt wrote:I dont exactly know alot about the rookies on our list... but jsut wondering opinions on the dropping of Wall! Was he a promising star? or was he skill lacking??

You can only keep 3 rookies so I suppose one had to go and he was the one.

saintly · Post: # 478098Post **saintly** » Wed 17 Oct 2007 4:25pm

saintsRrising wrote:Great news...but SEVEN rookies???

Is that possible?

Is therea special addition for the Scholraship players.?

I thought that we had fisrt choice to select them with our last pick in the main draft?

I know scholarshiup players are additional to the playing list, i am not sure whether its the main list or the rookie list though.

plugger66 · Post: # 478102Post **plugger66** » Wed 17 Oct 2007 4:27pm

saintly wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:Great news...but SEVEN rookies???

Is that possible?

Is therea special addition for the Scholraship players.?

I thought that we had fisrt choice to select them with our last pick in the main draft?
I know scholarshiup players are additional to the playing list, i am not sure whether its the main list or the rookie list though.

It is separte altogether but when you promote them you must be able to add an additional rookie to your list. I think we have 2 at the right age.

fonz_#15 · Post: # 478105Post **fonz_#15** » Wed 17 Oct 2007 4:31pm

i am pretty happy with the decisions re: rookies.

we seem to be goin too well at the moment

SaintBot · Post: # 478110Post **SaintBot** » Wed 17 Oct 2007 4:41pm

fonz_#15 wrote:we seem to be goin too well at the moment

i know what you mean...surely something disasterous is due to happen

fonz_#15 · Post: # 478115Post **fonz_#15** » Wed 17 Oct 2007 4:45pm

SaintBot wrote:
fonz_#15 wrote:we seem to be goin too well at the moment
i know what you mean...surely something disasterous is due to happen

or maybe its a sign that we are set for a big year

Armoooo · Post: # 478126Post **Armoooo** » Wed 17 Oct 2007 5:06pm

I'm surprised that Jones was promoted to the senior list, I would be surprised if he got much game time at all this year especially with Schneider now in the team...

mad saint guy · Wed 17 Oct 2007 5:06pm

Very happy with all of the decisions except for Jones.

Thrilled for Geary to make it to the senir list. He has all the makings of a quality AFL player and fits into the team nicely. Glad the speculation on here about him being delisted was false.

GrumpyOne · Post: # 478129Post **GrumpyOne** » Wed 17 Oct 2007 5:09pm

mad saint guy wrote:Very happy with all of the decisions except for Jones.

Jones was one of the few in our midfield last year who could outrun a sleeping elephant.

mad saint guy · Wed 17 Oct 2007 5:10pm

GrumpyOne wrote:Jones was one of the few in our midfield last year who could outrun a sleeping elephant.

Would rather a sleeping elephant delivering it into our forward line than Jones.

TimeToShineFellas · Wed 17 Oct 2007 5:13pm

GrumpyOne wrote:
mad saint guy wrote:Very happy with all of the decisions except for Jones.

Jones was one of the few in our midfield last year who could outrun a sleeping elephant.

He was also one of the guys in the midfield that couldn't hit the SIDE of a sleeping elephant!

Armoooo · Post: # 478137Post **Armoooo** » Wed 17 Oct 2007 5:15pm

TimeToShineFellas wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:
mad saint guy wrote:Very happy with all of the decisions except for Jones.

Jones was one of the few in our midfield last year who could outrun a sleeping elephant.
He was also one of the guys in the midfield that couldn't hit the SIDE of a sleeping elephant!

I am so sick of hearing about how slow are midfield is, it's not that their slow it's that they can't run for a whole game, give them a decent pre-season and increase their aeorbic capacity and you will see that next year...
IMO our number 1 priority should be our aerobic capacity, improve fitness and players will be bale to run harder and faster for longer and their skills will benefit aswell because they wont be too tired to kick the ball properly especially when on the run.

GrumpyOne · Post: # 478138Post **GrumpyOne** » Wed 17 Oct 2007 5:15pm

TimeToShineFellas wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:
mad saint guy wrote:Very happy with all of the decisions except for Jones.

Jones was one of the few in our midfield last year who could outrun a sleeping elephant.
He was also one of the guys in the midfield that couldn't hit the SIDE of a sleeping elephant!

Skills can be learnt. With pace, you either have it or you don't.

bergholt · Post: # 478143Post **bergholt** » Wed 17 Oct 2007 5:19pm

TimeToShineFellas wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:
mad saint guy wrote:Very happy with all of the decisions except for Jones.

Jones was one of the few in our midfield last year who could outrun a sleeping elephant.
He was also one of the guys in the midfield that couldn't hit the SIDE of a sleeping elephant!

Excellent call!

TimeToShineFellas · Wed 17 Oct 2007 5:20pm

GrumpyOne wrote:Skills can be learnt. With pace, you either have it or you don't.

At 23 years of age and he STILL needs to learn how to put the pill on someone's chest?

It's not as if he's a kid coming out of the TAC competition.........

mad saint guy · Wed 17 Oct 2007 5:20pm

GrumpyOne wrote:Skills can be learnt. With pace, you either have it or you don't.

Skills will not suddenly be learnt at age 24 when he has been playing football for most of his life. If he was an Irish guy who first kicked a footy in February then yes, he would probably improve. But he isn't and he has the worst kicking efficiency at St Kilda, and I would say the worst in the AFL. Below 75% is considered very poor at AFL level, while above 80% is good and above 85% excellent. Jones is at about 51%.

bergholt · Post: # 478147Post **bergholt** » Wed 17 Oct 2007 5:20pm

GrumpyOne wrote:
TimeToShineFellas wrote:
GrumpyOne wrote:
mad saint guy wrote:Very happy with all of the decisions except for Jones.

Jones was one of the few in our midfield last year who could outrun a sleeping elephant.
He was also one of the guys in the midfield that couldn't hit the SIDE of a sleeping elephant!
Skills can be learnt. With pace, you either have it or you don't.

Yeah, Jayson Daniels improved his kicking out of sight in his 173 games and 11 years playing top-level footy.