Match Thread: Saints vs Hawks

[meher baba]

Honest to god Teflon, there must be something else you can do with yourself this evening.

And let your dribble reign supreme?
Who’d want to miss that opportunity!
Time to give yourself an uppercut and stop your obsession with me …it’s kinda Baby Reindeer-ish…

Get help

[cwrcyn]

Teflon, I agree on Ross and Membrey. They're nearly done. Ross plays one solid game and then follows up with a couple of stinkers. Membrey seems to have lost some zip, but playing in that forward line at the moment would be a misery

[The Fireman]

Time to melt down

[Saintmatt]

Mitch Owens

Mare of a game!!!

Jesus man … imagine playing high h/f in front of that dogshit midfield and half back group.

Owens and Mataes are slaughtered playing there

[B.M]

Teffers

You still haven’t explain to me why it was all the coaches fault under the previous 2 coaches

And with a far better team it’s now the players fault. And the coach ESCAPES any criticism!!!

The inability of this team to score and beat even weak opponents is damning and comes back to the game plan

The modern game started in 2017 when the tigers shifted the style of play from a ball control press to a forward possession and speed on the ball game

What is the RL record in that era? I’ll look it up.

[Ajantis]

F@&k Off St.Kilda & and F@&k Off Ross Lyon !
Totally Pathetic............... I am staying a non-member when I continue too see such s***.

[Teflon]

Mitch Owens

Mare of a game!!!

Jesus man … imagine playing high h/f in front of that dogshit midfield and half back group.

Owens and Mataes are slaughtered playing there

Agree but geez that midfield is woeful
2nd to the ball
No outside run
Only Marshall dump kicks forwards…
Worst in league by mile
Forward line no chance

[Teflon]

Honest to god Teflon, there must be something else you can do with yourself this evening.

And let your dribble reign supreme?
Who’d want to miss that opportunity!
Time to give yourself an uppercut and stop your obsession with me …it’s kinda Baby Reindeer-ish…

Get help

At least I’m salvageable…..you??

[Teflon]

Teflon, I agree on Ross and Membrey. They're nearly done. Ross plays one solid game and then follows up with a couple of stinkers. Membrey seems to have lost some zip, but playing in that forward line at the moment would be a misery

Agree re entry to forward half but Membrey /Ross are done

[saynta]

Effing pathetic. Dropped marks, fumbles and second to the ball all afternoon.

This club is going backwards.

[SaintWiki]

Yep season over. Tried my Best to be positive now must succumb to all the miserable bastards on here

Lack of skills, compassion and organisation is so obvious to me. If RTB was down on the bench at the start of the game today I would have felt that at least he is doing his best, especially after all the recent losses and an average performance last week against the bottom side. Coming down to the bench today after the horse had bolted isn't good enough.

[samoht]

The pies were obviously having a run of poor form after winning the flag ... with a reduced pre-season following their extended flag-winning season, Teflon.

How do you on the other hand explain the hot and cold form of our players?
Our players were obviously good enough to beat the pies!

You can't have it both ways.

[B.M]

Still waiting Teffers

Explain your contradiction?

[Devilhead]

Dow must come in ... Jones as well ... at least they give us some grunt around the stoppages ... Clark too once he is ready to go .... and Crouch (if his knee isn't fkd)

[Scollop]

So Ross has failed with this team Teflon?

He is going to rebuild now?!

lol
We surprised opposition for the first 5 rounds and snuck into the 8 since then have won 9 out of the last 27


Not the genius you lead us to believe

And remember, when Ratten was coach - it was all about the coach?!

Its still all about the coach.

This time Teflon is blaming Richo for our losses. His legacy players in Seb Ross and Tim Membrey are the only players he blanes for todays loss

Ignore the game style, ignore the continual low scores, ignore the boring conservative selections, ignore the fact Sinclair and Hill cannot do it all every week and if you continue to play them for 85% game time you risk burning them out

Both Sincs and Hill were spent in the last quarter

[saintkid]

Teflon, I agree on Ross and Membrey. They're nearly done. Ross plays one solid game and then follows up with a couple of stinkers. Membrey seems to have lost some zip, but playing in that forward line at the moment would be a misery

I have been saying same thing as Teflon about Ross and Membrey. They are NOT our future and this year we are nowhere good enough, so play anyone else with upside ffs! We need to keep trying new talent and stop playing favourites that are well past their 'use by date'. Both these players are list cloggers now and good clubs make calls on these types much earlier and rightly so!
This club has unfortunately been poorly run both on a football level and administrative level for several years now. The playing list we have still has a long way to go. It's been a very average list since 2011.
Today was abysmal!

[The Fireman]

I’m disappointed. The melt down here is mediocre cmon guys let’s gets dirt

[Killa]

They comprehensively won the midfield contest with aggression and pace.

They loaded up in defence with numbers, then spreading to multiple options making our players chase shadows.

And when there was 6 x 6 x 6, they won or halved the centre square contest so they could load up in defence.

The only area where we had the advantage was in our defence because with that midfield domination and run from defence when we did go forward they dominated and should have won by 15 goals not 5 points.

The only players we had who put pressure on their contest and numbers midfield were Marshall and Windhager (who tired due to lack of support)

There will be plenty attempting to impress at Sandringham with their pace, aggression in the contest and skills.

It is time we addressed cumbersome and slow players who do not impact the game.

It has been identified that it is a running game, so let us look at the personnel we continue to put on the park thru that lens

Not just pay lip service.

[samoht]

Melt down or pointing out some home truths?

[cwrcyn]

The fumbling from the start of the game was an indication how things were going to turn out. A lack of assertiveness was there for all to see. That's the killer. We did not look like we had any intention of imposing ourselves in the game. No aggression towards our opponents, no confident attack on the ball and afraid to take the game on and take risks.

Our ineffectual midfield gets constantly embarrassed at centre clearances and that's the main reason we have getting blown away in the first 15 minutes of most games.

Our best midfielder is a mediocre kick and at times a slow decision-maker. It's a midfield without energy or creativity, not to mention a paucity of class

[Teflon]

The pies were obviously having a run of poor form after winning the flag ... with a reduced pre-season following their extended flag-winning season, Teflon.

How do you on the other hand explain the hot and cold form of our players?
Our players were obviously good enough to beat the pies!

You can't have it both ways.

You didn’t answer my question
The game plan is terrible
What’s the difference you think genius?

[Teflon]

Melt down or pointing out some home truths?

Or just pointing out rubbish and excuses for players everywhere??
Soft.

[Teflon]

The fumbling from the start of the game was an indication how things were going to turn out. A lack of assertiveness was there for all to see. That's the killer. We did not look like we had any intention of imposing ourselves in the game. No aggression towards our opponents, no confident attack on the ball and afraid to take the game on and take risks.

Our ineffectual midfield gets constantly embarrassed at centre clearances and that's the main reason we have getting blown away in the first 15 minutes of most games.

Our best midfielder is a mediocre kick and at times a slow decision-maker. It's a midfield without energy or creativity, not to mention a paucity of class

Yup
It’s a midfielder game
We don’t have one
Hard to win each week when you rock up, lose clearance time and again and have to come from 5 goals down

[SaintDippa]

Anyone who watches a lot of footy can see the way we're coached to play is the concern. No system, no structure, no 2024 ball movement. Players just randomly moving around playing a chip stop style and mostly rubbish f50 entries. Ross needs to move with the times or get out. Also not a slight on Marshall but once again smashed on hit outs. Don't care to reads the stats, to my eye hawks had 3 in 4 clearances. Is Campbell worth a try with roma mostly CHF?

[Ghost Like]

I see RoMa had a ton of Supercoach points, grab, kick, turnover...Meek beat him in the ruck contest and gave their, equally average, midfield a better than 50% chance of a clearance.

We need a genuine centre bounce ruck or else we will always be playing catch up from our D50. But, hey, RoMa got alot of points.

RoMa is a very good player but we need a ruckman who can give our mids a chance. Centre clearances mean nothing if our forwards are not advantaged.