Players who can land a set shot

[meher baba]

Hats off in particular to Wilson, Hayes and Sinclair (who I would still prefer to see playing in the backline, but his two goals made up for it to some extent).

Did we miss Higgins at any stage last night?

[cwrcyn]

Higgins and King are 50/50 bets even when 30m out directly in front

The only players I have a lot of faith with when going for set shots are Sharman, Butler, Wood, Cordy, and Sinclair

I cover my eyes when King, Owens, and Higgins are lining up

[Sainter_Dad]

Higgins and King are 50/50 bets even when 30m out directly in front

The only players I have a lot of faith with when going for set shots are Sharman, Butler, Wood, Cordy, and Sinclair

I cover my eyes when King, Owens, and Higgins are lining up

This season

King is 54% - 7 from 13 that scored
Higgins 62% - 13 from 21

Coops is 40% - 4 from 10
Butler - 100% - 1 from 1
Wood - 100% - 1 from 1
Cordy - 100% - 1 from 1
Sinclair 71% - 5 from 7

[Rickabee]

Tim Membrey also gets most shots that are expected to be kicked. It would be good to compare his stats. He has endured some wayward periods in his career, but also some "sharpshooter" periods.

[SAINT-LEE]

Hats off in particular to Wilson, Hayes and Sinclair (who I would still prefer to see playing in the backline, but his two goals made up for it to some extent).

Did we miss Higgins at any stage last night?

Def missed Higgins...he could've banged 2-3 through and that allowed Sinclair to add to the total.

[Sainter_Dad]

Tim Membrey also gets most shots that are expected to be kicked. It would be good to compare his stats. He has endured some wayward periods in his career, but also some "sharpshooter" periods.

This year Members is travelling at 72% 13 from 18 - Highest goal tally and most accurate for anyone more than 1 goal.

[meher baba]

Hats off in particular to Wilson, Hayes and Sinclair (who I would still prefer to see playing in the backline, but his two goals made up for it to some extent).

Did we miss Higgins at any stage last night?

Def missed Higgins...he could've banged 2-3 through and that allowed Sinclair to add to the total.

I reckon he would have gotten the shots that Wilson and Hastie got. Would he have converted as many as they did? Some days he would.

[King Max]

It was good to see Hastie nail that shot from 45. Not an easy kick for his first goal.

[Otiman]

I reckon he would have gotten the shots that Wilson and Hastie got. Would he have converted as many as they did? Some days he would.

It's a good question.

Are those goals 'team goals' that Higgins just gets on the end of and gets his name against, or are they genuinely created by Higgins?

[Sainter_Dad]

I reckon he would have gotten the shots that Wilson and Hastie got. Would he have converted as many as they did? Some days he would.

It's a good question.

Are those goals 'team goals' that Higgins just gets on the end of and gets his name against, or are they genuinely created by Higgins?

Are there many individual goals - or is it a team effort my young Padawan?

I know what you mean - but the instances of individual brilliance making 'something from nothing' are few and far between.

[bobmurray]

Tim Membrey also gets most shots that are expected to be kicked. It would be good to compare his stats. He has endured some wayward periods in his career, but also some "sharpshooter" periods.

One of Membrey's wayward periods was when Ben Dixon was hired as goal missing coach, i don't know what dicko changed with
Membrey's set shot technique, i just know it failed big time.

[saynta]

Tim Membrey also gets most shots that are expected to be kicked. It would be good to compare his stats. He has endured some wayward periods in his career, but also some "sharpshooter" periods.

One of Membrey's wayward periods was when Ben Dixon was hired as goal missing coach, i don't know what dicko changed with
Membrey's set shot technique, i just know it failed big time.

Dicko is a clown in my humble opinion.

[SteeleSaints]

Everyone knows the ball carries further when playing at Marvel. We take a lot of marks around the 50 metre area and when that occurs the opposition have usually flooded back to fill most holes.

If our players cant spot up a decent lead eg Hayes I would like to see our capable players back themselves and have a shot on goals. We seem so concerned with manufacturing goals the players are reticent to back themselves.

Phillipou is the classic who has gone away from his natutal game of having a ping. He stands and always looks to give it off when he has plenty of time to have a shot. I hate seeing players' natural flare stymied by 'over coaching'. Thats something that McRae does well with the Pies he backs his players to have a go and 9 times out of 10 it works.

The thing with constantly bombing it to the top of square becomes common knowledge and teams just set up to intercept the ball there. Honestly King and co would mark 10% of long bombs, but if we mix it up with having a shot and.looking for leads the opposition just cant all fold back which would make the long bomb more effective when used.

Having said the above I really dont think Harvey is the right guy to be our forward line coach. He was never good around goals and has that dour structured personality which holds our blokes back from expressing themselves on the field. Harvey nearly always looked to give it off and that is showing in his coaching.

[shrodes]

Higgins and King are 50/50 bets even when 30m out directly in front

The only players I have a lot of faith with when going for set shots are Sharman, Butler, Wood, Cordy, and Sinclair

I cover my eyes when King, Owens, and Higgins are lining up

This season

King is 54% - 7 from 13 that scored
Higgins 62% - 13 from 21

Coops is 40% - 4 from 10
Butler - 100% - 1 from 1
Wood - 100% - 1 from 1
Cordy - 100% - 1 from 1
Sinclair 71% - 5 from 7

Comparison with last year

This vs last
Better
Higgins 56.5% vs 43.4%
Membrey 56.5% vs 37.5%

Worse
King 43.8% vs 54.9%
Sharman 40.0% vs 65.2%
Owens 41.2% vs 51.0%

[Scollop]

Comparison with last year

This vs last
Better
Higgins 56.5% vs 43.4%
Membrey 56.5% vs 37.5%

Worse
King 43.8% vs 54.9%
Sharman 40.0% vs 65.2%
Owens 41.2% vs 51.0%

Not a fair comparison imo

Sharman was playing as a wingman and a defender this year. Pretty difficult having to be a fill in utility and then be expected to run the length of the ground and take set shots in the forward line.

Sharman stood up in a final. That's something that is undeniable

We'd be a different outfit if Sharman was a permanent forward. Problem right now is that he has to wait for Membrey to retire or Owens to become a permanent midfielder

Membrey isn't contracted beyond this year

[shrodes]

Comparison with last year

This vs last
Better
Higgins 56.5% vs 43.4%
Membrey 56.5% vs 37.5%

Worse
King 43.8% vs 54.9%
Sharman 40.0% vs 65.2%
Owens 41.2% vs 51.0%

Not a fair comparison imo

Sharman was playing as a wingman and a defender this year. Pretty difficult having to be a fill in utility and then be expected to run the length of the ground and take set shots in the forward line.

Sharman stood up in a final. That's something that is undeniable

We'd be a different outfit if Sharman was a permanent forward. Problem right now is that he has to wait for Membrey to retire or Owens to become a permanent midfielder

Membrey isn't contracted beyond this year

Wasn't a dig at Sharman at all, I am a fan of him, and I agree, but I'm only presenting the shots he's taken, same as any other player.

Just included those who has more than 10 shots this year and last (so excludes Wilson)

I missed a couple

This vs last
Worse
Caminiti 46.7% vs 54.3%
Hill 45.5% vs 46.2%

Though notably Hill is having considerably more shots per game this year in a more permanent forward role (1.4 shots per game vs 0.6 last year)

[B.M]

Goal percentage is not on itself a great indicator

Higgins has kicked at least 8 walk in goals from the goal square

He also kicked one out of his arse

But he’s missed a number of simple set shots from 30

Him and Owens are horrible kicks in general and Ryan Byrnes

[shrodes]

Goal percentage is not on itself a great indicator

Higgins has kicked at least 8 walk in goals from the goal square

He also kicked one out of his arse

But he’s missed a number of simple set shots from 30

Him and Owens are horrible kicks in general and Ryan Byrnes

Yeah based on xScore rating which takes into account the expected score above or below average based on the shot, Higgins is very good from general play (out his arse) at +0.95 (this is good for 2nd in the league behind Bolton) and very bad from set shot at -0.80.

Only Caminiti and Owens are lower in terms of xScore from set shot at -0.82 and -1.47 respectively, though many of the ones I listed aren't covered since I think you need a minimum of 10 shots from general play or set shot to have a rating.

[Yorkeys]

Mitchito has lost confidence in his goal kicking. It will return.

[B.M]

Owens and Higgins are technically poor kicks - they will never be reliable

Byrnes is a scrubber kick - can’t kick over a jam jar

Sharman is a beautiful kick - but lost a bit of confidence

Membrey has a beautiful kicking action - King also kicks it well, but his nervousness is obvious

[Yorkeys]

Owens and Higgins are technically poor kicks - they will never be reliable

- King also kicks it well, but his nervousness is obvious

His nervousness? Can hardly bare to watch.
Shame nervousness can't be transferred completely to us supporters, doesn't seem fair he and we have to worry.
Used to get nervous about Jack H but have lowered expectations on his set shots to zero so a point is now a good result nervous wise.