Brownlow. Did the Umps get it Right?

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Re: Brownlow. Did the Umps get it Right?

Post: # 2032665Post terry smith rules »

Life Long Saint wrote: Tue 26 Sep 2023 9:21am Every year we hear the same complaints.

We have to remember that the Brownlow Medal is the umpires award. Always has been. Always should be.

It's not like we don't have a multitude of other awards.
We have:
  • All Australian - Awarded based on position by a panel of "experts"
  • Player MVP - Awarded by the players
  • Coaches MVP - Awarded by the coaches
  • A plethora of media awards from all the major papers and radio broadcasters
  • And, lastly, the club B&F awards
If we don't like the Brownlow result, then why not elevate some of the others above it, or reduce the importance of the the Brownlow?

Oh, and one more thing...All the individual league awards, no matter who votes on them, are won by midfielders!

Exactly

I would add that one of the reasons many of us love sport is the unpredictability

Does the best horse win the Melbourne Cup?

Do you know what many of us find boring? When Djokovic wins every match he plays


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Re: Brownlow. Did the Umps get it Right?

Post: # 2032666Post CURLY »

Umpires manipulate games now people are shocked at how they vote.


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Re: Brownlow. Did the Umps get it Right?

Post: # 2032668Post Beno88 »

Jack Sinclair joins some elite company.

St Kilda players to poll more than 20 Brownlow votes (under the 3-2-1 system)

Harold Bray - 1947 (21)
Brian Gleeson - 1957 (24)
Neil Roberts - 1958 (24)
Ian Stewart - 1966 (21)
Ross Smith - 1967 (24)
Robert Harvey - 1997 (26), 1998 (32)
Nick Dal Santo - 2011 (28)
Jack Steele - 2021 (26)
Jack Sinclair - 2023 (21)


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Re: Brownlow. Did the Umps get it Right?

Post: # 2032669Post Life Long Saint »

terry smith rules wrote: Tue 26 Sep 2023 10:33am Does the best horse win the Melbourne Cup?
Not a fair comparison...The Cup is a handicap event.
A better analogy would be the Cox Plate.


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Re: Brownlow. Did the Umps get it Right?

Post: # 2032670Post B.M »

Brownlow medal is steeped in tradition and has 100 years of history!


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Re: Brownlow. Did the Umps get it Right?

Post: # 2032672Post SaintWiki »

Every year similar complaints with many of them having some credibility and there is sure to be a lot more to come. I would prefer the votes included the coaches votes as well but it is what it is. The oversized gaudy and ostentatious event is drawn out with so much bulldust which is far too long. But I was stupid enough to watch it all the way through so I can only blame myself. I could have saved my sanity and dodged it then read the list of the votes this morning. My biggest bitch may be contrary to other people's views which was when channel 7 took us away from this extremely cliched nonsense and over to the even more banal bulldust at 'The Front Bar'. The best thing about it is it won't be in our face after today.


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Re: Brownlow. Did the Umps get it Right?

Post: # 2032676Post shanegrambeau »

Brad Couch 18 votes
Brad Hill Zero

It does seem a little awry

They’ll have artificial intelligence decide if sooner or later.


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Re: Brownlow. Did the Umps get it Right?

Post: # 2032677Post Otiman »

This is a reasonable comparison. The votes are obviously skewed by the SS voting only awarding to us.

The big movers are Marshall, Crouch, King, Wilkie.

Brownlow:
Sinclair 21
Crouch 18
Steele 15
King 5
NWM 4
Higgins 3
Marshall 3
Wilkie 2
Philippou 1
Wood 1

SS B&F:
Sinclair 61
Marshall 45
Wilkie 38
Crouch 36
NWM 35.5
Steele 25.5
Wood 23
Owens 16
Hill 13


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