Gresham

This unofficial St Kilda Saints fan forum is for people of all ages to chat Saints Footy and all posts must be respectful.

Moderators: Saintsational Administrators, Saintsational Moderators

sunsaint
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5212
Joined: Mon 07 Aug 2006 9:50pm
Location: Queensland - Beautiful one day ... you know the rest
Has thanked: 65 times
Been thanked: 318 times

Re: Gresham

Post: # 2016352Post sunsaint »

Shop him
Had always reminded me of one of those punchem rollypolly clowns
The kind you hit and they keep bouncing back up
Too small for the middle keeps getting knocked down
Too selfush and wasteful in the forward line


Seeya
*************
B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 10900
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2402 times

Re: Gresham

Post: # 2016353Post B.M »

What do you mean ‘shop him?’

He’s a free agent - he walks


maverick
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5003
Joined: Sun 14 Mar 2004 10:42am
Location: Bayside
Has thanked: 9 times
Been thanked: 86 times

Re: Gresham

Post: # 2016358Post maverick »

Restricted free agent he’s shopped


B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 10900
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2402 times

Re: Gresham

Post: # 2016402Post B.M »

If he goes to another club we will get an ‘end of second round’ compo

Somewhere between pick 36-40 depending on matched bids at the top end of the draft

Billings will be traded for a pick in the 50s

Hunter Clark for a late second rounder

That means we will have turned

Picks 3, 7, 15

Into picks in the 30-50 range

Astute!


User avatar
magnifisaint
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 7733
Joined: Sun 02 May 2004 2:52am
Has thanked: 201 times
Been thanked: 542 times

Re: Gresham

Post: # 2016406Post magnifisaint »

B.M wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 6:05pm If he goes to another club we will get an ‘end of second round’ compo

Somewhere between pick 36-40 depending on matched bids at the top end of the draft

Billings will be traded for a pick in the 50s

Hunter Clark for a late second rounder

That means we will have turned

Picks 3, 7, 15

Into picks in the 30-50 range

Astute!
Crap!


Posting 20 years of holey crap!
maverick
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5003
Joined: Sun 14 Mar 2004 10:42am
Location: Bayside
Has thanked: 9 times
Been thanked: 86 times

Re: Gresham

Post: # 2016413Post maverick »

End of 2nd round for Gresham won’t happen, we will match and keep him

It’s up to billings what he wants

And hunter Clark will stay

I am convinced we have more supporters that love the melodrama just so they can complain….


Annoyedsaint
Club Player
Posts: 506
Joined: Sun 27 May 2018 9:49pm
Has thanked: 105 times
Been thanked: 120 times

Re: Gresham

Post: # 2016416Post Annoyedsaint »

And the other 75% are “oh well, she’ll be right next year”, “it’s only a game”, so basically happy with failure after failure without blinking an eyelid.

Imagine this was Collingwood, they’d tear the place down.
But it’s not and they are basically never in this position.


maverick
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 5003
Joined: Sun 14 Mar 2004 10:42am
Location: Bayside
Has thanked: 9 times
Been thanked: 86 times

Re: Gresham

Post: # 2016442Post maverick »

Really Collingwood never in this position

They have won 2 premierships in 65 years
You are kidding yourself, they are basically in this position constantly


B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 10900
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2402 times

Re: Gresham

Post: # 2016448Post B.M »

Get used to the idea

Gresham and Clark still unsigned and want out

Gresham will be a blue
Clark a Roo

Billings will go anywhere - he definitely wants out!
Probably bombers or dogs


Annoyedsaint
Club Player
Posts: 506
Joined: Sun 27 May 2018 9:49pm
Has thanked: 105 times
Been thanked: 120 times

Re: Gresham

Post: # 2016452Post Annoyedsaint »

maverick wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 9:08pm Really Collingwood never in this position

They have won 2 premierships in 65 years
You are kidding yourself, they are basically in this position constantly
And lost a lot more, many many many many more finals/prelims. Point being, give yourself a chance.

We wait 25 years, one or two cracks, then disappear again.
Tell me, why don’t they disappear for more than 3 years??


User avatar
SaintPav
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 18474
Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
Location: Alma Road
Has thanked: 1512 times
Been thanked: 1865 times

Re: Gresham

Post: # 2016456Post SaintPav »

B.M wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 10:00pm Get used to the idea

Gresham and Clark still unsigned and want out

Gresham will be a blue
Clark a Roo

Billings will go anywhere - he definitely wants out!
Probably bombers or dogs
Is that confirmed?


Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
User avatar
SaintPav
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 18474
Joined: Wed 16 Jun 2010 9:24pm
Location: Alma Road
Has thanked: 1512 times
Been thanked: 1865 times

Re: Gresham

Post: # 2016457Post SaintPav »

B.M wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 6:05pm If he goes to another club we will get an ‘end of second round’ compo

Somewhere between pick 36-40 depending on matched bids at the top end of the draft

Billings will be traded for a pick in the 50s

Hunter Clark for a late second rounder

That means we will have turned

Picks 3, 7, 15

Into picks in the 30-50 range

Astute!
Very poor management if this happens.


Holder of unacceptable views and other thought crimes.
Moods
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4792
Joined: Fri 05 Jun 2009 3:05pm
Has thanked: 310 times
Been thanked: 422 times

Re: Gresham

Post: # 2016467Post Moods »

Gresh has been poor for 3 years. It’s only now everyone is waking up to it because he’s not injured. His decision making and skill execution are below average for a mid ( which is what he thinks he is)

Why would we expect a first or second round pick for him? The other clubs have eyes and brains as well.


B.M
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 10900
Joined: Thu 04 Jul 2019 8:53pm
Has thanked: 5 times
Been thanked: 2402 times

Re: Gresham

Post: # 2016476Post B.M »

What do you mean poor for 3 years?

Missed a season with an Achilles

Missed half a season with a PCL

He’s been injured


Saint2
Club Player
Posts: 143
Joined: Tue 17 Jun 2014 6:22pm
Been thanked: 38 times

Re: Gresham

Post: # 2016482Post Saint2 »

One of the players who just didn't that extra bit harder in attack or in the midfield when there- too many waiting for the easy, out the back ball.


Brunswicksainter
Club Player
Posts: 412
Joined: Mon 15 May 2017 7:18pm
Has thanked: 27 times
Been thanked: 53 times

Re: Gresham

Post: # 2016499Post Brunswicksainter »

B.M wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 6:05pm If he goes to another club we will get an ‘end of second round’ compo

Somewhere between pick 36-40 depending on matched bids at the top end of the draft

Billings will be traded for a pick in the 50s

Hunter Clark for a late second rounder

That means we will have turned

Picks 3, 7, 15

Into picks in the 30-50 range

Astute!
Sunk cost fallacy.


Moods
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4792
Joined: Fri 05 Jun 2009 3:05pm
Has thanked: 310 times
Been thanked: 422 times

Re: Gresham

Post: # 2016504Post Moods »

B.M wrote: Mon 26 Jun 2023 10:21am What do you mean poor for 3 years?

Missed a season with an Achilles

Missed half a season with a PCL

He’s been injured
Not all of it he hasn’t. He’s generally played minimum 6 games, sometimes nearly half the season.

He’s had some reasonable games in that time, but always the same issues have always remained. Poor disposal poor decision making


User avatar
Impatient Sainter
Saintsational Legend
Posts: 4089
Joined: Tue 05 Apr 2016 3:30pm
Has thanked: 2622 times
Been thanked: 1077 times

Re: Gresham

Post: # 2016521Post Impatient Sainter »

B.M wrote: Sun 25 Jun 2023 10:00pm Get used to the idea
Gresham and Clark still unsigned and want out
Gresham will be a blue
Clark a Roo
Billings will go anywhere - he definitely wants out!
Probably bombers or dogs
Jones might be another who finds himself looking for another club - depending on what RTB wants.

TBH I wouldnt be upset losing any of those players as long as we get something reasonable in return. Its obvious our list needs an injection of talent and those players have had plenty of time to show they will make it and havent produced for one reason or another. My issue is our timing re this years draft strengths compared to last.

When we desparately need elite midfielders, it just goes to show how poor our list strategy has been managed for sometime. Last year was the strongest midfield draft there has been in sometime and we chose to hang onto players and release them this year when the strength of midfield kids is no where near that of last year. It looks like we dont know what we are doing from one year to the next, let alone having any long term management plans in place?


Post Reply