Demographc for 2024

[older saint]

Interesting to hear talk re contracts on the radio and the expectation many will be done later int he year as the list is assessed. This makes sense considering the coaching staff and football staff all came in post trade and draft periods. RL has talked about getting young talent in many times.

Looking at the list
18-23 year olds (End of 2023 season): 20 players
24-30 year olds (End of 2023 season): 23 players
31 plus - 1 (Campbell)

Of the first group 7 are out of contract at end of the season
10 in the Second Group and Campbell in the 3rd

Gresham, McKenzie Restricted FA
Ross, Webster Unrestricted FA

Now NWM has signed will be interesting to see what happens with some of those out of contract EOY.
Guessing a watch on Gresham, Clark, Coffield - what they do and ability to get on and stay opn the park.
Would expect Caminiti , Stocker to get new offers which wont break the bank
McKenzie and Jones injury history will put a huge ? on a new contract at this stage I would think.

Base is not there with older players gone. Ability to add at the draft brings in younger guys and also doesn't hurt Salary cap when recruiting or re signing.

This also doesn't account for contracted players which may be moved

[Sainter_Dad]

Reported on SEN that we are FINALLY taking a wait a see approach

TBF - there is no rush - Can you smell what the Ross is cooking????

If you don't want to be part of it - you can f@rk off.
That's why I was never worried about NWM - if his heart is not RW&B I don't want him at the club - but so glad he signed.

[Banger9798]

Would like to see Clark re signed

[bobmurray]

I'm not fussed if they don't re-sign Jones, he doesn't give the club much return on their investment and his disposal skills are quite ordinary, from memory.

[diddley]

I am stumped that Dmac is a restricted FA.
How is he in the top 25% paid players in the club.

[Dis Believer]

I am stumped that Dmac is a restricted FA.
How is he in the top 25% paid players in the club.

Being a restricted FA has nothing to do with the size of your contract, it is a result of how long you have been at a club (8 years??). How much compensation the club would get if we lose a restricted FA is a result of the size of that players contract.

[Beno88]

Become a destination club again and these things look after themselves.

[diddley]

I am stumped that Dmac is a restricted FA.
How is he in the top 25% paid players in the club.

Being a restricted FA has nothing to do with the size of your contract, it is a result of how long you have been at a club (8 years??). How much compensation the club would get if we lose a restricted FA is a result of the size of that players contract.

Those that earn inside of the top 25 per cent of their list or have spent at least eight years at their club qualify as restricted free agents. Players that have previously been qualified as free agents or have been delisted in the past qualify as unrestricted free agents.

[Dis Believer]

I am stumped that Dmac is a restricted FA.
How is he in the top 25% paid players in the club.

Being a restricted FA has nothing to do with the size of your contract, it is a result of how long you have been at a club (8 years??). How much compensation the club would get if we lose a restricted FA is a result of the size of that players contract.

Those that earn inside of the top 25 per cent of their list or have spent at least eight years at their club qualify as restricted free agents. Players that have previously been qualified as free agents or have been delisted in the past qualify as unrestricted free agents.

Yes but you can't just "be" an RFA because you're in the top 25% of earners - you still have to have been there for 8 years before you qualify as an RFA!

[diddley]

I am stumped that Dmac is a restricted FA.
How is he in the top 25% paid players in the club.

Being a restricted FA has nothing to do with the size of your contract, it is a result of how long you have been at a club (8 years??). How much compensation the club would get if we lose a restricted FA is a result of the size of that players contract.

Those that earn inside of the top 25 per cent of their list or have spent at least eight years at their club qualify as restricted free agents. Players that have previously been qualified as free agents or have been delisted in the past qualify as unrestricted free agents.

Yes but you can't just "be" an RFA because you're in the top 25% of earners - you still have to have been there for 8 years before you qualify as an RFA!

Yes I get the 8 years at the one club, and uncontracted to qualify part.
But after 8 years, uncontracted and you are in the top 25% earners of the club, you are a Restricted FA.
8 years, uncontracted and in the bottom 75% earners, you are Unrestricted FA.

The point I was making originally, is why is among the top 25% of earners at out club? That has me stumped. That’s roughly the top 11 players in the club salary wise. That can’t be right.

[axcellence]

I am stumped that Dmac is a restricted FA.
How is he in the top 25% paid players in the club.

Being a restricted FA has nothing to do with the size of your contract, it is a result of how long you have been at a club (8 years??). How much compensation the club would get if we lose a restricted FA is a result of the size of that players contract.

Those that earn inside of the top 25 per cent of their list or have spent at least eight years at their club qualify as restricted free agents. Players that have previously been qualified as free agents or have been delisted in the past qualify as unrestricted free agents.

Yes but you can't just "be" an RFA because you're in the top 25% of earners - you still have to have been there for 8 years before you qualify as an RFA!

Yes I get the 8 years at the one club, and uncontracted to qualify part.
But after 8 years, uncontracted and you are in the top 25% earners of the club, you are a Restricted FA.
8 years, uncontracted and in the bottom 75% earners, you are Unrestricted FA.

The point I was making originally, is why is among the top 25% of earners at out club? That has me stumped. That’s roughly the top 11 players in the club salary wise. That can’t be right.

Could have had a backended contract to make him a RFA. Just means that if someone picks him up Saints would get something possibly. That’s just a thought on how his contract would have been set in 2021.

[Dis Believer]

I am stumped that Dmac is a restricted FA.
How is he in the top 25% paid players in the club.

Being a restricted FA has nothing to do with the size of your contract, it is a result of how long you have been at a club (8 years??). How much compensation the club would get if we lose a restricted FA is a result of the size of that players contract.

Those that earn inside of the top 25 per cent of their list or have spent at least eight years at their club qualify as restricted free agents. Players that have previously been qualified as free agents or have been delisted in the past qualify as unrestricted free agents.

Yes but you can't just "be" an RFA because you're in the top 25% of earners - you still have to have been there for 8 years before you qualify as an RFA!

Yes I get the 8 years at the one club, and uncontracted to qualify part.
But after 8 years, uncontracted and you are in the top 25% earners of the club, you are a Restricted FA.
8 years, uncontracted and in the bottom 75% earners, you are Unrestricted FA.

The point I was making originally, is why is among the top 25% of earners at out club? That has me stumped. That’s roughly the top 11 players in the club salary wise. That can’t be right.

OK, makes more sense, I think I missed the point you were originally trying to make........

[Mr Magic]

I think that the OP has Ross and McKenzie in the wrong columns.
There is no way, IMHO, that McKenzie is in our top 11 paid players and Ross isn't.
I'd be amazed if that were true.

[diddley]

!	Message from: diddley

I think that the OP has Ross and McKenzie in the wrong columns.
There is no way, IMHO, that McKenzie is in our top 11 paid players and Ross isn't.
I'd be amazed if that were true.

Nope. It’s all correct. I just don’t believe that Dmac should be in that bracket.
But I do think axellence is correct. It is probably because the contract was back ended.

(Ross is UFA because the 25% rule is ignored after 10 years at the club, which Ross has now qualified for)

[Saintmike65]

I’m pretty sure Ross and Billings both had cuts to their salary last contract review.

[Yorkeys]

Who might have predicted Ronnie Burns selected to start in front of Windy. Fluctuations, eh. And the Caminiti story. If I were a manager I would not be playing the lets shelve talks for a while card, just lock something in.