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Post: # 1971011Post kosifantutti »

IN: Campbell, Hannebery
OUT: Billings (injured), Byrnes (omitted), Gresham (injured)

Long in the 22


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Post: # 1971012Post skeptic »

Wow…
That is an uninspiring set of selections


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It appears Long has made his way into the 22, I really hope he shows enough to still be there the following week. Hopefully that week still matters.

Is Campbell in a sign of Marshall being poor in the ruck or our F50 being poor?

Feel for Byrnes, feel for our development. Surely if Byrnes is to be dropped we can afford a place in the 22 for Owens or NWM.

I agree, nothing inspirational in relation to this weeks selections (again).


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Owens probably the sub...


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The fact we have bought in 2 players over 30 suggests we have no faith in our younger players to deliver or we have already put the cue in the rack IMO


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bangaulegend wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 8:14pm The fact we have bought in 2 players over 30 suggests we have no faith in our younger players to deliver or we have already put the cue in the rack IMO
Or we’ve just picked a team on merit.


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CURLY wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 9:42pm
bangaulegend wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 8:14pm The fact we have bought in 2 players over 30 suggests we have no faith in our younger players to deliver or we have already put the cue in the rack IMO
Or we’ve just picked a team on merit.
Maybe ,Campbell has played well at Sandy most of the year , obviously Hanner's has only just come back in the last few weeks . So we are either desperate or putting the young blokes on ice hence putting the cue in the rack


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bangaulegend wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 9:55pm
CURLY wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 9:42pm
bangaulegend wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 8:14pm The fact we have bought in 2 players over 30 suggests we have no faith in our younger players to deliver or we have already put the cue in the rack IMO
Or we’ve just picked a team on merit.
Maybe ,Campbell has played well at Sandy most of the year , obviously Hanner's has only just come back in the last few weeks . So we are either desperate or putting the young blokes on ice hence putting the cue in the rack
What young blokes should have come in?


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axcellence wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 8:11pm Owens probably the sub...
To be honest Long should have stayed the medi-sub, he's an impact player.

Great last quarter effort against the Dogs, incredible one quarter (the 2nd) against the Eagles, 6 tackles, 2 possessions and 1 goal with 3 and a half minutes left in the 2nd quarter - 3 possessions and 1 tackle for the 2nd half.

I would have preferred Owens, can play mid or forward and another AFL game would not hurt his development.


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Id take a busted Hannerbery over a busted Billings every day.


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CURLY wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 10:03pm
bangaulegend wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 9:55pm
CURLY wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 9:42pm
bangaulegend wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 8:14pm The fact we have bought in 2 players over 30 suggests we have no faith in our younger players to deliver or we have already put the cue in the rack IMO
Or we’ve just picked a team on merit.
Maybe ,Campbell has played well at Sandy most of the year , obviously Hanner's has only just come back in the last few weeks . So we are either desperate or putting the young blokes on ice hence putting the cue in the rack
What young blokes should have come in?
For future development IMO we would be better playing Owens or Bytel in front of Hanners .


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bangaulegend wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 10:22pm
CURLY wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 10:03pm
bangaulegend wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 9:55pm
CURLY wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 9:42pm
bangaulegend wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 8:14pm The fact we have bought in 2 players over 30 suggests we have no faith in our younger players to deliver or we have already put the cue in the rack IMO
Or we’ve just picked a team on merit.
Maybe ,Campbell has played well at Sandy most of the year , obviously Hanner's has only just come back in the last few weeks . So we are either desperate or putting the young blokes on ice hence putting the cue in the rack
What young blokes should have come in?
For future development IMO we would be better playing Owens or Bytel in front of Hanners .
Isn’t that putting the cue in the rack?

Owens played one game after coming back from injury.

NWM one game in the VFL possibly working on something he needs to.


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axcellence wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 8:11pm Owens probably the sub...
hope so


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CURLY wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 10:33pm
bangaulegend wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 10:22pm
CURLY wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 10:03pm
bangaulegend wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 9:55pm
CURLY wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 9:42pm
bangaulegend wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 8:14pm The fact we have bought in 2 players over 30 suggests we have no faith in our younger players to deliver or we have already put the cue in the rack IMO
Or we’ve just picked a team on merit.
Maybe ,Campbell has played well at Sandy most of the year , obviously Hanner's has only just come back in the last few weeks . So we are either desperate or putting the young blokes on ice hence putting the cue in the rack
What young blokes should have come in?
For future development IMO we would be better playing Owens or Bytel in front of Hanners .
Isn’t that putting the cue in the rack?

Owens played one game after coming back from injury.

NWM one game in the VFL possibly working on something he needs to.
Maybe, I'd say more like investing for the future & Campbell & Hanner's aren't , I would rather give our future development more game time in our current situation than play 30 year olds that probably won't be with us next year but that's only my opinion you are more than welcome to yours I just don't agree with it


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Post: # 1971094Post B.M »

We are trying to win games of footy

Not develop players

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B.M wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 11:51pm We are trying to win games of footy

Not develop players

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Well, I agree with your second point - we're definitely not developing players.


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Post: # 1971113Post B.M »

I should explain better what I mean about developing

I mean the senior team is not there for development purposes

If they are good enough to develop in the AFL team (Windhager) then they develop in the Saints team

If they cannot earn a position on form or ability in the AFL then they develop through the VFL

That’s what Sandy is for, from and AFL point of view.


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It’s a weird stare of affairs when winning games of football and not developing youngsters is code for playing mediocre over the hill players that are odds on to be cut in a few weeks time


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Marshall rucked for about 90% of the match last week and it was a track fit for the clydesdales…not for the thoroughbreds

I’m disappointed that Byrnes was dropped, but can understand why the decision was made. He’s the mid or winger that had to make way for Hanners

We probably have a lot of players that will have heavy legs. The other reason Campbell is in this week is because we’ll need a scapegoat if we lose

If Marshall doesn’t play and if one or two other players are late omissions from the team, then I think we’ll struggle against the Hawks


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Ghost Like wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 10:05pm
axcellence wrote: Thu 28 Jul 2022 8:11pm Owens probably the sub...
To be honest Long should have stayed the medi-sub, he's an impact player.

Great last quarter effort against the Dogs, incredible one quarter (the 2nd) against the Eagles, 6 tackles, 2 possessions and 1 goal with 3 and a half minutes left in the 2nd quarter - 3 possessions and 1 tackle for the 2nd half.

I would have preferred Owens, can play mid or forward and another AFL game would not hurt his development.
Agree.

But with Richo as coach - whoops sorry meant Ratts - sorry can’t tell the difference between the vanilla ice creams - it’s what we expect.

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How is NWM not even an emergency?

Shouldn't have been dropped, now finds Jones ahead of him already.


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Beno88 wrote: Fri 29 Jul 2022 8:56am How is NWM not even an emergency?

Shouldn't have been dropped, now finds Jones ahead of him already.
He needs to work on his defensive game as that's why he got dropped- didn't put any pressure on off the ball, same for Jones.


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spert wrote: Fri 29 Jul 2022 8:58am
Beno88 wrote: Fri 29 Jul 2022 8:56am How is NWM not even an emergency?

Shouldn't have been dropped, now finds Jones ahead of him already.
He needs to work on his defensive game as that's why he got dropped- didn't put any pressure on off the ball, same for Jones.
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spert wrote: Fri 29 Jul 2022 8:58am
Beno88 wrote: Fri 29 Jul 2022 8:56am How is NWM not even an emergency?

Shouldn't have been dropped, now finds Jones ahead of him already.
He needs to work on his defensive game as that's why he got dropped- didn't put any pressure on off the ball, same for Jones.
Only Steele had more tackles than Wanganeen-Milera vs the Bulldogs.

He had career best tackle and pressure act numbers.


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