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Are they?
Apparently Rath did t have as much say under Clarkson as he does under Ratten
WOW!! Thats what they are running with.no wonder we are screwed.Teflon wrote: ↑Sun 26 Jun 2022 11:29pm This might be our problem from BF
So genius Rath thinks our game plan should be to not have any set plan…..sorta let players choose their own adventure??? WTF
No wonder when you play a systems based side like Swans you look stupid….explains a lot !!
"Our philosophy, I suppose, is that it's a game, so
it should be played," Rath added.
And if we're talking about playing, then
there's a sense of creativity and a
sense of probing the opposition to see
what they give you and then
responding to that rather than having a
set plan.
"We want our players to be able to make
decisions and we're really trying to empower
to do that."
David Rath
The theory is that we will be unpredictable, which will screw up the opposition's defensive structures.
In practice though all that happens is that it screws up OUR offensive structures.
Unpredictability is a double edged sword.
Sure, the opposition don't know what you're gonna do next.... but neither do your teammates ffs.
All we get with this '"no system IS the system" approach by rath and ratts is headless chooks launching long moonballs and blind panic disposals.
It works against:
A. crap teams and
B. half decent teams when they sit off us and don't pressure.
But it almost always turns to custard against:
A. decent teams and
B. half decent teams which put our ball carrier under a lot of sustained pressure.
It simply does not work, clearly ratts and rath are wedded to it though.
Credit to them for trying to break the mould a little and innovate, but the writing is on the wall- it doesn't beat a well organised and drilled team.
God I hope the club have the stones to accept that we've tried and failed with ratts and rath- time to throw 20 kitchen sinks at a guy who will give our guys a system... clarko
Tony74 has said exactly that, that Rath has far too much say! Rath needs to be moved on quickly or told to STFU and get him out of the box, if Ratten is to save his skin. The trouble is I think Ratts is a loyal individual and that may to be own his detriment, unless Lethlean makes the decision for him.
Is this turning into a Sheldon-Hudson thing?Impatient Sainter wrote: ↑Mon 27 Jun 2022 1:28amTony74 has said exactly that, that Rath has far too much say! Rath needs to be moved on quickly or told to STFU and get him out of the box, if Ratten is to save his skin. The trouble is I think Ratts is a loyal individual and that may to be own his detriment, unless Lethlean makes the decision for him.
It’s got traces of Pelchen tooshanegrambeau wrote: ↑Mon 27 Jun 2022 1:54amIs this turning into a Sheldon-Hudson thing?Impatient Sainter wrote: ↑Mon 27 Jun 2022 1:28amTony74 has said exactly that, that Rath has far too much say! Rath needs to be moved on quickly or told to STFU and get him out of the box, if Ratten is to save his skin. The trouble is I think Ratts is a loyal individual and that may to be own his detriment, unless Lethlean makes the decision for him.
Wayne I can understand his sentiment, but for me 5 weeks ago there warning signs. Then Ratten tried to be far too cute against Melbourne and the players have fallen off a cliff since. They look confused and have no clear plan in how to move the ball forward.Wayne42 wrote: ↑Mon 27 Jun 2022 2:28pm Lethlean obviously hasn't read Big Footy...
St Kilda Chief Operating Officer Simon Lethlean says the club is pressing ahead with talks over a new deal for coach Brett Ratten.
Lethlean is confident that Ratten, who comes out of contract at the end of the season, is the right man to take the club forward.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/26/ ... t-de-goey/
Our current form is diabolical, it's a pity we don't know the gist of the discussions had between Ratten, Rath and Lethlean after the now weekly evidence of the wheels having fallen off and nothing seeminglyImpatient Sainter wrote: ↑Mon 27 Jun 2022 3:28pmWayne I can understand his sentiment, but for me 5 weeks ago there warning signs. Then Ratten tried to be far too cute against Melbourne and the players have fallen off a cliff since. They look confused and have no clear plan in how to move the ball forward.Wayne42 wrote: ↑Mon 27 Jun 2022 2:28pm Lethlean obviously hasn't read Big Footy...
St Kilda Chief Operating Officer Simon Lethlean says the club is pressing ahead with talks over a new deal for coach Brett Ratten.
Lethlean is confident that Ratten, who comes out of contract at the end of the season, is the right man to take the club forward.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/06/26/ ... t-de-goey/
Lethlean is obviously at the club daily and sees Ratten operate (most likely has a strong friendship with him), I wonder if he is removed enough to be making those decisions given our current diabolical form?