Saints sign SA star Jack Hayes

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Re: Saints sign SA star Jack Hayes

Post: # 1939390Post Wayne42 »

SaintPav wrote: Wed 16 Feb 2022 10:00pm I thought they signed Hayes as per original report?
Not sure how Jon Ralph concluded the club had signed Hayes as it hasn't been confirmed publicly by the club.
The club appears to be having a look at a few players before publicly announcing any new additions.

We'll know definitely by the 10th of March as the 9th is the cut off date for SSP's.


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Re: Saints sign SA star Jack Hayes

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Wayne42 wrote: Thu 17 Feb 2022 5:27pm [quote=SaintPav post_id=<a href="tel:1939315">1939315</a> time=<a href="tel:1645009234">1645009234</a> user_id=19322]
I thought they signed Hayes as per original report?
Not sure how Jon Ralph concluded the club had signed Hayes as it hasn't been confirmed publicly by the club.
The club appears to be having a look at a few players before publicly announcing any new additions.

We'll know definitely by the 10th of March as the 9th is the cut off date for SSP's.
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He is signed regardless of whether we have announced it .

His club is SA has announced it on their website and he was included in team photo yesterday whereas other players trialling were not.


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Re: Saints sign SA star Jack Hayes

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Junior wrote: Fri 18 Feb 2022 5:47pm
Wayne42 wrote: Thu 17 Feb 2022 5:27pm [quote=SaintPav post_id=<a href="tel:1939315">1939315</a> time=<a href="tel:1645009234">1645009234</a> user_id=19322]
I thought they signed Hayes as per original report?
Not sure how Jon Ralph concluded the club had signed Hayes as it hasn't been confirmed publicly by the club.
The club appears to be having a look at a few players before publicly announcing any new additions.

We'll know definitely by the 10th of March as the 9th is the cut off date for SSP's.
He is signed regardless of whether we have announced it .

His club is SA has announced it on their website and he was included in team photo yesterday whereas other players trialling were not.
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Thanks for the heads up, however, i'll believe it when it's announced officially.


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Re: Saints sign SA star Jack Hayes

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I didn't want to create a new thread about Blake Schlensong as he's mentioned here twice.

It's just been reported that Freo has lodged paperwork for Schlensong to train with them, ppwk submitted before the SSP deadline.


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Re: Saints sign SA star Jack Hayes

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Can Hayes, or Lienert & Naish, play against Essendon next week if they're not officially on the list?

I assume not.


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Beno88 wrote: Fri 25 Feb 2022 8:37am Can Hayes, or Lienert & Naish, play against Essendon next week if they're not officially on the list?

I assume not.
I would say yes, the sign on date has not passed and the AFL has given all 3 permission to be a part of the club's pre season.


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Re: Saints sign SA star Jack Hayes

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Beno88 wrote: Fri 25 Feb 2022 8:37am Can Hayes, or Lienert & Naish, play against Essendon next week if they're not officially on the list?

I assume not.
The SSP deadline is March 9, and we've given paperwork to The Kremlin, and they approved it.
Yes, they can play


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WellardSaint wrote: Fri 25 Feb 2022 5:57pm
Beno88 wrote: Fri 25 Feb 2022 8:37am Can Hayes, or Lienert & Naish, play against Essendon next week if they're not officially on the list?

I assume not.
The SSP deadline is March 9, and we've given paperwork to The Kremlin, and they approved it.
Yes, they can play
Do you trust the Kremlin ?


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Re: Saints sign SA star Jack Hayes

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Welcome to the Saints Jack.
We may learn during this season if you were recruitied to the Saints because you are a quality footballer or because your name is Jack. :lol:


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Re: Saints sign SA star Jack Hayes

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Finally, thank god.

But really, we were always going to sign him. Third time lucky.


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bangaulegend wrote: Thu 03 Feb 2022 10:03pm Great get if true & might play more games in one year than Hanners has played in 3 at a fraction of the cost :wink:
So true. Your comment.


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Re: Saints sign SA star Jack Hayes

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saynta wrote: Thu 03 Mar 2022 10:27am Finally, thank god.

But really, we were always going to sign him. Third time lucky.
Surprised and glad we had the good sense to grab him.
By surprised I would have thought he was on the radar of a lot of clubs.
SA has been pretty good to us.

Dunstan not so much.


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Re: Saints sign SA star Jack Hayes

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damienc wrote: Thu 03 Mar 2022 11:52am
saynta wrote: Thu 03 Mar 2022 10:27am Finally, thank god.

But really, we were always going to sign him. Third time lucky.
Surprised and glad we had the good sense to grab him.
By surprised I would have thought he was on the radar of a lot of clubs.
SA has been pretty good to us.

Dunstan not so much.
Dunstan played over 100 games. That is good enough.


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Re: Saints sign SA star Jack Hayes

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Looks like Naish is heading west and will be signed by the Eagles.


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With all the talk of Covid topups I’m surprised the afl haven’t upped the list numbers to say 50 and that would allow more fringe players in the system


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Upping the list means having to pay them to be in the system rather than just short term top ups if required paid on a pay as you play basis.


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saynta wrote: Thu 03 Mar 2022 1:48pm Looks like Naish is heading west and will be signed by the Eagles.
OK, so it seems that he's gorn. Does anybody have a whisper about Leinert?


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Stian wrote: Thu 03 Mar 2022 3:28pm
saynta wrote: Thu 03 Mar 2022 1:48pm Looks like Naish is heading west and will be signed by the Eagles.
OK, so it seems that he's gorn. Does anybody have a whisper about Leinert?
Other than he is not good enough, no.


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saynta wrote: Thu 03 Mar 2022 3:45pm
Stian wrote: Thu 03 Mar 2022 3:28pm
saynta wrote: Thu 03 Mar 2022 1:48pm Looks like Naish is heading west and will be signed by the Eagles.
OK, so it seems that he's gorn. Does anybody have a whisper about Leinert?
Other than he is not good enough, no.
:D :D :D


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Re: Saints sign SA star Jack Hayes

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Interesting that Jack Sheedy his old coach says he can be a bit untidy with the ball but basically said he's a warrior. So sounds like a more skilful version of Jason Blake


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Untidy with the ball but more skilful?

Still has a sloppy rig, needs to get flint hard


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magnifisaint wrote: Fri 04 Mar 2022 12:11pm Interesting that Jack Sheedy his old coach says he can be a bit untidy with the ball but basically said he's a warrior. So sounds like a more skilful version of Jason Blake
Untidy yet more skilled than Blake?!

Id be thrilled if he's close to as good as Blake... Would be a very valuable part of the team..


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Re: Saints sign SA star Jack Hayes

Post: # 1940705Post CQ SAINT »

Put into another context, I think Sheedy was referring to reasons why he hasn't made the level before.
Being untidy with the ball clearly doesn't matter in the AFL if you can accumulate enough possessions, there are plenty of examples to draw on.
I think at this stage, Hayes only plays when Ryder or Marshall can't and he won't be at too many centre bounces against the best rucks anyway.
Ideally, he will shape himself into a running and marking, tall high forward and when he rucks, he plays loose behind the ball and links rebounds out of defensive.
Both Marshall and Ryder bring these attributes to our game. Their presence in these roles makes our running game more reliable.
Hayes' ability to follow and mark the ball and win more 1:1 contests than he loses probably shouldn't diminish all that much because of the higher level, but his fitness should accelerate quickly in the environment.
If the oppo ruck has to man him up, that's a bonus.
For Hayes to be effective, Crouch, Ross and Steele will have to be more accountable for their midfield opponents and players like Sinclair, Webster, Wilkie, Hill, Billings and Byrnes will have to get creative further up field and get the ball moving cleanly and quickly.


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