the evidence is clear: - umpires do decide a game!

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the evidence is clear: - umpires do decide a game!

Post: # 1923622Post 6621104 »

Can we put this to bed now- the dogs/bombers game, one I care little about shows clearly how poor umpiring can decide a game. Are we surprised that 5 of the first 7 goals to the dogs came from free kicks? The raised arm high frees have been a blight on the game - yet the umps still fall for it and the Beveridge dogs are the worst offenders.


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Post: # 1923624Post Wayne42 »

Which ones are the umpires ?


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6621104 wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 6:13pm Can we put this to bed now- the dogs/bombers game, one I care little about shows clearly how poor umpiring can decide a game. Are we surprised that 5 of the first 7 goals to the dogs came from free kicks? The raised arm high frees have been a blight on the game - yet the umps still fall for it and the Beveridge dogs are the worst offenders.
That’s a rule issue, not an umpiring one.


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The_Dud wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 6:20pm
6621104 wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 6:13pm Can we put this to bed now- the dogs/bombers game, one I care little about shows clearly how poor umpiring can decide a game. Are we surprised that 5 of the first 7 goals to the dogs came from free kicks? The raised arm high frees have been a blight on the game - yet the umps still fall for it and the Beveridge dogs are the worst offenders.
That’s a rule issue, not an umpiring one.
Oh FFS - now I have heard it all
The_Dud wrote: Umpires don't affect the outcome
The_Dud wrote: Umpires don't affect the score
The_Dud wrote: If we score a goal from a free it must be the umpires cheating for us
Now:
The_Dud wrote: That’s a rule issue, not an umpiring one.
To be clear - I do not think that Umpires set out to decide games - nor do I believe that they 'Cheat' - however to blindly say that they cannot influence a game is ridiculous and to flat out defend incorrect decisions is ludicrous.
Sh!t happens - and - often - it happens to us!


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Post: # 1923640Post cwrcyn »

Who cares when it's Essendon that's getting cheated. The most despicable supporters of any AFL team. Any day they get beaten is a good day. Suck on that Adrian Dodoro


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Post: # 1923642Post Mr Magic »

Just hearing Leppitsch (who some are calling for to come to our Club) talking about the umpires needing to get better when determining free kicks.
Especially the 50/50 ones


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 6:25pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 6:20pm
6621104 wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 6:13pm Can we put this to bed now- the dogs/bombers game, one I care little about shows clearly how poor umpiring can decide a game. Are we surprised that 5 of the first 7 goals to the dogs came from free kicks? The raised arm high frees have been a blight on the game - yet the umps still fall for it and the Beveridge dogs are the worst offenders.
That’s a rule issue, not an umpiring one.
Oh FFS - now I have heard it all
The_Dud wrote: Umpires don't affect the outcome
The_Dud wrote: Umpires don't affect the score
The_Dud wrote: If we score a goal from a free it must be the umpires cheating for us
Now:
The_Dud wrote: That’s a rule issue, not an umpiring one.
To be clear - I do not think that Umpires set out to decide games - nor do I believe that they 'Cheat' - however to blindly say that they cannot influence a game is ridiculous and to flat out defend incorrect decisions is ludicrous.
Sh!t happens - and - often - it happens to us!
I think it is fairly clear that maggots have their favourite teams, players they like and players they dislike.

f****** Hawkins gets away with murder every week, throwing elbows and pushing players in the back with impunity.

Selwood is another continually getting frees for ducking his head and forcing opposition players uarms up over his shoulders. Should be play on.

On the other hand Toby Green would have to be half murdered before the maggots would even think of blowing their whistles.

Baker and Milne were others denied justice by the men in what used to be white.


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Post: # 1923646Post saynta »

Sainter_Dad wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 6:25pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 6:20pm
6621104 wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 6:13pm Can we put this to bed now- the dogs/bombers game, one I care little about shows clearly how poor umpiring can decide a game. Are we surprised that 5 of the first 7 goals to the dogs came from free kicks? The raised arm high frees have been a blight on the game - yet the umps still fall for it and the Beveridge dogs are the worst offenders.
That’s a rule issue, not an umpiring one.
Oh FFS - now I have heard it all
The_Dud wrote: Umpires don't affect the outcome
The_Dud wrote: Umpires don't affect the score
The_Dud wrote: If we score a goal from a free it must be the umpires cheating for us
Now:
The_Dud wrote: That’s a rule issue, not an umpiring one.
To be clear - I do not think that Umpires set out to decide games - nor do I believe that they 'Cheat' - however to blindly say that they cannot influence a game is ridiculous and to flat out defend incorrect decisions is ludicrous.
Sh!t happens - and - often - it happens to us!
I think it is fairly clear that maggots have their favourite teams, players they like and players they dislike.

f****** Hawkins gets away with murder every week, throwing elbows and pushing players in the back with impunity.

Selwood is another continually getting frees for ducking his head and forcing opposition players uarms up over his shoulders. Should be play on.

On the other hand Toby Green would have to be half murdered before the maggots would even think of blowing their whistles.

Baker and Milne were others denied justice by the men in what used to be white.


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Post: # 1923653Post shanegrambeau »

Happy to see Essendon lose….yey….done go the Bombers in flames…hip hip hooray.

But no doubt, that Bulldogs forward milked the umps to a tee, and kicked four goals, at least three from ill deserved but sneakily gotten frees.

Tackled?
Easy. Duck into the corner of the armpit of the tackler raising the elbow to raise the tacklers arm and form a ‘noose’…Whistle…too high! Goal.
Exaggerate push after ..well after,the actual push..and after the umps attention is directed towards a potential free…Whistle goal..


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shanegrambeau wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 7:40pm Happy to see Essendon lose….yey….done go the Bombers in flames…hip hip hooray.

But no doubt, that Bulldogs forward milked the umps to a tee, and kicked four goals, at least three from ill deserved but sneakily gotten frees.

Tackled?
Easy. Duck into the corner of the armpit of the tackler raising the elbow to raise the tacklers arm and form a ‘noose’…Whistle…too high! Goal.
Exaggerate push after ..well after,the actual push..and after the umps attention is directed towards a potential free…Whistle goal..
Take your word. Hate both teams so watched a movie. Bloody good too. Only turned it back on with about 11 minutes to go.

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Post: # 1923658Post The_Dud »

Sainter_Dad wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 6:25pm
The_Dud wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 6:20pm
6621104 wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 6:13pm Can we put this to bed now- the dogs/bombers game, one I care little about shows clearly how poor umpiring can decide a game. Are we surprised that 5 of the first 7 goals to the dogs came from free kicks? The raised arm high frees have been a blight on the game - yet the umps still fall for it and the Beveridge dogs are the worst offenders.
That’s a rule issue, not an umpiring one.
Oh FFS - now I have heard it all
The_Dud wrote: Umpires don't affect the outcome
The_Dud wrote: Umpires don't affect the score
The_Dud wrote: If we score a goal from a free it must be the umpires cheating for us
Now:
The_Dud wrote: That’s a rule issue, not an umpiring one.
To be clear - I do not think that Umpires set out to decide games - nor do I believe that they 'Cheat' - however to blindly say that they cannot influence a game is ridiculous and to flat out defend incorrect decisions is ludicrous.
Sh!t happens - and - often - it happens to us!
The ‘raised arm high free’ is a correct free kick under the rules, no matter how much we don’t like it.

The umpires can’t not pay it because it’s unpopular.


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I wish just one day perhaps in a couple of finals, we’d get a run from the umpires like the dogs. Last year at the Gabba I believe 7 of their 10 goals against us came from a free kick. It was funny that today it was Essendon though


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aaron82 wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 7:53pm I wish just one day perhaps in a couple of finals, we’d get a run from the umpires like the dogs. Last year at the Gabba I believe 7 of their 10 goals against us came from a free kick. It was funny that today it was Essendon though
Ask Doggies supporters about the 09 prelim final!


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The_Dud wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 7:57pm
aaron82 wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 7:53pm I wish just one day perhaps in a couple of finals, we’d get a run from the umpires like the dogs. Last year at the Gabba I believe 7 of their 10 goals against us came from a free kick. It was funny that today it was Essendon though
Ask Doggies supporters about the 09 prelim final!

It’s amusing that one. Riewoldt picked up at Weightman style free kick at the start of the third quarter but the game finished 17/17 all free kicks. I was about 15 bourbons deep so I don’t recall any other dubious free kicks our way.

I do know the dogs are 141 to 96 free kicks in finals since Beveridge has been coach. We can only dream of those sort of numbers


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shanegrambeau wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 7:40pm Happy to see Essendon lose….yey….done go the Bombers in flames…hip hip hooray.

But no doubt, that Bulldogs forward milked the umps to a tee, and kicked four goals, at least three from ill deserved but sneakily gotten frees.

Tackled?
Easy. Duck into the corner of the armpit of the tackler raising the elbow to raise the tacklers arm and form a ‘noose’…Whistle…too high! Goal.
Exaggerate push after ..well after,the actual push..and after the umps attention is directed towards a potential free…Whistle goal..
Good call mate I think the dogs got the rub of the green & if that was the Saints I would be ropable but IDGAF those drug cheating fu--ers have assembled them selves a pretty handy team & will be a threat in years to come so any loss warms the cockles of my heart don't feel any sympathy for them at all :wink:


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Post: # 1923673Post Saint 58 »

Fxxx the Injectors

Anyone who raises his arms to draw a head high free kick should get his head ripped off.
Make the prick (yes I mean Selwood😡), earn it.
If he’s concussed then too bad, off you go.
Then maybe they’ll change the rule - If the initial tackle was legal, play on, no free kick.

P.S. 6203 days & counting since the Injectors won a final 😂


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aaron82 wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 7:53pm I wish just one day perhaps in a couple of finals, we’d get a run from the umpires like the dogs. Last year at the Gabba I believe 7 of their 10 goals against us came from a free kick. It was funny that today it was Essendon though
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shanegrambeau wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 7:40pm Happy to see Essendon lose….yey….done go the Bombers in flames…hip hip hooray.

But no doubt, that Bulldogs forward milked the umps to a tee, and kicked four goals, at least three from ill deserved but sneakily gotten frees.

Tackled?
Easy. Duck into the corner of the armpit of the tackler raising the elbow to raise the tacklers arm and form a ‘noose’…Whistle…too high! Goal.
Exaggerate push after ..well after,the actual push..and after the umps attention is directed towards a potential free…Whistle goal..
I totally agree, Shane. I enjoyed the first 3 games of the weekend, but I found today’s game very frustrating to watch. This bloke Weightman has taken over the mantle from Toby McLean as the Dogs’ best milker, and is definitely on the competition dais with Selwood and Rhys Matheson.


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Post: # 1923688Post saynta »

The press are calling those frees a ridiculous AFL farce. Hard not to agree.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-f ... 9758f72d98


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Post: # 1923690Post The_Dud »

Saint 58 wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 8:24pm
P.S. 6203 days & counting since the Injectors won a final 😂
One of my favourite facts of all time - no one has ever celebrated an Essendon finals win on Facebook! 😂


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Post: # 1923691Post saynta »

From the age.com.au

"There are days when the umpires go largely unnoticed. This was not one of them."


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Post: # 1923693Post bigcarl »

The Doggies are the umpires’ darlings. Four goals to Weightman, all from free kicks, effectively decided the game in those conditions. I reckon two or three weren’t there.


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The_Dud wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 9:06pm
Saint 58 wrote: Sun 29 Aug 2021 8:24pm
P.S. 6203 days & counting since the Injectors won a final 😂
One of my favourite facts of all time - no one has ever celebrated an Essendon finals win on Facebook! 😂
Yeesss! :D


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Post: # 1923698Post Wayne42 »

The umpires didn't kick the goals, Weightman did, the umps just gave Weightman the opportunity.

How many other players would have kicked 4 goals straight, good on him, he helped send the Injectors into their offseason.


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Post: # 1923699Post The Fireman »

so the cheats were cheated ??? so it's evens.


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