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The FIXture is in

Post: # 1906021Post kosifantutti »


The five teams we play twice are all currently in the 8 which puts us way out in front of everyone else.


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Re: The FIXture is in

Post: # 1906022Post SaintPav »

We get punished for having a tiny bit of success.

f*** you AFL


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Re: The FIXture is in

Post: # 1906031Post Enrico_Misso »

How good is the AFL fixture?


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Re: The FIXture is in

Post: # 1906034Post chook23 »

as mentioned earlier we have a real tough draw... could easily slip down the ladder a bit


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Sux to be us


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Re: The FIXture is in

Post: # 1906036Post samuraisaint »

We don't play either wof the top 2 again though. #Winning!


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Re: The FIXture is in

Post: # 1906037Post The_Dud »

Won’t have a hard draw next year after this years finish!


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Re: The FIXture is in

Post: # 1906038Post desertsaint »

we always have a hard draw, regardless. they fit in the marquee games, then shuffle us around them. we are an afterthought.


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Post: # 1906039Post SaintPav »

That’s a 40% differential. That is a massive disadvantage.

Port and West Coast, particularly Port only having 1 is interesting.

Like I said, massive disadvantage.


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Post: # 1906040Post SaintPav »

No guarantees next year of having a softer draw under current system.


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Re: The FIXture is in

Post: # 1906041Post lewdogs »

Our FIXture this year was a joke from the moment it was revealed.

Not only doubling up against 3 top 4 sides, our others were West Coast and Sydney, both interstate teams (to go with Port and Geelong who we play at Kardinia).

We have had the hardest draw so often, I think squiggle did an article about it, not just when we do well but the AFL couldn't help but take that opportunity to completely root us.

If the AFL wants to get real they need to draw it randomly. If it's about making money fine but at least admit the competition is a farce.


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Post: # 1906044Post The Fireman »

this fixture really showed where we are at.


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Post: # 1906046Post SaintPav »

The fixture hitherto hasn't been the issue. It's what's coming that will probably get ugly.


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Looks like a stitch up


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Post: # 1906056Post Sainter_Dad »

If we were in the 8 it would be one less team we could play against in the 8.

I feel sorry for Norf - ALL of their remaining games are against teams above them on the ladder - and FFS - NONE of Melbourne's games are against teams above them!!!!!! WTF

If we are going to make the Eight and be competitive we would need to beat these teams anyway - if not - and we are only going to get into the 8 to make up numbers - I would rather not be there

But Mum - he got more chocolate than me - seriously!

Yep - it is a conspiracy:
Fixture;
Travel;
Umpires;
Days Rest;

ALL OF IT - Just to keep St Kilda down

How about we kick straight and win a few?


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 05 Jun 2021 9:28am If we were in the 8 it would be one less team we could play against in the 8.

I feel sorry for Norf - ALL of their remaining games are against teams above them on the ladder - and FFS - NONE of Melbourne's games are against teams above them!!!!!! WTF

If we are going to make the Eight and be competitive we would need to beat these teams anyway - if not - and we are only going to get into the 8 to make up numbers - I would rather not be there

But Mum - he got more chocolate than me - seriously!

Yep - it is a conspiracy:
Fixture;
Travel;
Umpires;
Days Rest;

ALL OF IT - Just to keep St Kilda down

How about we kick straight and win a few?
Open your eyes Sainter_Dad, can’t you see it’s obvious the AFL reposition the goalposts at the end of every quarter so it’s harder for us to kick straight?!?

Also it would have been polite of the AFL to use that crystal ball of theirs to let us know how much of a failure the likes of DH and Hill would be so we could save ourselves some grief! ;)


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Post: # 1906064Post saynta »

cwrcyn wrote: Sat 05 Jun 2021 8:55am Looks like a stitch up
Plus one. :cry:


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desertsaint wrote: Fri 04 Jun 2021 9:39pm we always have a hard draw, regardless. they fit in the marquee games, then shuffle us around them. we are an afterthought.
Agree – you’re hitting the nail right on the head. Every year, more marquee games are introduced, none of them involving St Kilda. This, as you said, means St Kilda has to be slotted in wherever possible, regardless of ladder position. And if we do get one, such as Good Friday, Heaven help us if we have a bad game. Punishment is swift.


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Post: # 1906077Post Sainter_Dad »

GSG wrote: Sat 05 Jun 2021 12:12pm
desertsaint wrote: Fri 04 Jun 2021 9:39pm we always have a hard draw, regardless. they fit in the marquee games, then shuffle us around them. we are an afterthought.
Agree – you’re hitting the nail right on the head. Every year, more marquee games are introduced, none of them involving St Kilda. This, as you said, means St Kilda has to be slotted in wherever possible, regardless of ladder position. And if we do get one, such as Good Friday, Heaven help us if we have a bad game. Punishment is swift.
Previous comments still applies - Kick Straight - Win Games - Get Marquee Games

Remind me how attractive our Marquee games have been again?

We have the weapons - We have the feet - We always seem to shoot ourselves in one with the other.


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The_Dud wrote: Sat 05 Jun 2021 10:54am
Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 05 Jun 2021 9:28am If we were in the 8 it would be one less team we could play against in the 8.

I feel sorry for Norf - ALL of their remaining games are against teams above them on the ladder - and FFS - NONE of Melbourne's games are against teams above them!!!!!! WTF

If we are going to make the Eight and be competitive we would need to beat these teams anyway - if not - and we are only going to get into the 8 to make up numbers - I would rather not be there

But Mum - he got more chocolate than me - seriously!

Yep - it is a conspiracy:
Fixture;
Travel;
Umpires;
Days Rest;

ALL OF IT - Just to keep St Kilda down

How about we kick straight and win a few?
Open your eyes Sainter_Dad, can’t you see it’s obvious the AFL reposition the goalposts at the end of every quarter so it’s harder for us to kick straight?!?

Also it would have been polite of the AFL to use that crystal ball of theirs to let us know how much of a failure the likes of DH and Hill would be so we could save ourselves some grief! ;)
You know you can be unhappy with our performance and still think our fixture is a joke?

Why not just play the top 4 every week then, if we are good enough we should win and make finals.

The difference between doubling up against Sydney and doubling up against North is massive. Our lack of form has simply exacerbated what was already a ridiculously hard fixture.


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Post: # 1906092Post cwrcyn »

Exactly


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Post: # 1906094Post cwrcyn »

Richmond, Brisbane, and Port Adelaide get much easier draws than us.....that makes sense


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Sainter_Dad wrote: Sat 05 Jun 2021 12:38pm
GSG wrote: Sat 05 Jun 2021 12:12pm
desertsaint wrote: Fri 04 Jun 2021 9:39pm we always have a hard draw, regardless. they fit in the marquee games, then shuffle us around them. we are an afterthought.
Agree – you’re hitting the nail right on the head. Every year, more marquee games are introduced, none of them involving St Kilda. This, as you said, means St Kilda has to be slotted in wherever possible, regardless of ladder position. And if we do get one, such as Good Friday, Heaven help us if we have a bad game. Punishment is swift.
Previous comments still applies - Kick Straight - Win Games - Get Marquee Games

Remind me how attractive our Marquee games have been again?

We have the weapons - We have the feet - We always seem to shoot ourselves in one with the other.
So, Melbourne, who got the Queen’s Birthday fixture, ALWAYS played well, in fact they played so well that they needed the AFL’s help to lift themselves off the bottom. And what about Collingwood and Essendon. They keep ANZAC Day no matter how well or badly they play. Richmond and Carlton now have the opening game of the season. Carlton playing well?? So don’t give me the old chestnut that it is all our fault because we don’t play well.


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Re: The FIXture is in

Post: # 1906103Post desertsaint »

that some would even argue, let's just make the top four and reduce the number of top four teams we play, is a head shaker. the whole point of the afl's bracket system is the exact opposite of that argument. you make top six you play more top six teams. it's simple and fair in theory, and the rule is there so that teams outside the top six have a better chance of climbing the ladder. but yes, lets just accept a hurdle that the afl deliberately try and reduce for other teams. the simple matter is that the rule aint applied fairly. that's all the sane amongst us are asking for. when a sporting compeition is deliberately slanted to advantage the rich over the poor, it's no longer a competition, it's scripted entertainment, with chosen character types for teams. we are the poor sucker that everyone either laughs at or feels for. the afl may enjoy that script, but i aint paying to watch that show.


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Post: # 1906106Post cwrcyn »

There's a select little cabal within the AFL and we ain't in it. It's been that way for decades. AFL is happy to drop turds on us because they know we won't whinge. Why don't we whinge? Because if we do they'll drop more turds on us. Meanwhile a select few Victorian clubs get the gold class treatment.


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