potential membership numbers

[saynta]

Current membership: 42,500 approx.

With Scott as coach: 35,000 approx.

With Hird as coach: 31,000. approx

with Knights as coach: 43,000 approx.

With Ratten as coach: 44,000. approx.

With Harvey as coach: 46,750 approx.

If the Saints want more memberships, then appoint Banger coach.

No contest AFAIC.

[Sainter_Dad]

LOL

Where did these estimates come from?
Would be entirely short term - and only looking at an initial injection of members.

Lets say we appoint Shane Warne as Coach - members jump on board - we get a cross over from Cricket fans - membership to 50K

Warnie cannot coach - we finish dead motherless last for 3 years - do you think that membership would remain at 50K

Membership increases should be the last thing the board considers for the appointment of a coach - a successful coach - with a good watchable playing style will put the bums on seats!!!!

Short sighted AFAIAC

[barneyboyz]

Current membership: 42,500 approx.

With Scott as coach: 35,000 approx.

With Hird as coach: 31,000. approx

with Knights as coach: 43,000 approx.

With Ratten as coach: 44,000. approx.

With Harvey as coach: 46,750 approx.

If the Saints want more memberships, then appoint Banger coach.

No contest AFAIC.

Premiership any time soon = 100,000+ approx.

Love Banger and would have him back yesterday, just not as Snr coach

[bigred]

I reckon the estimates there are on the low side.

Current membership- 42500 approx.

Under Scott- 23000

Under Knights- 35000

Under Ratten- 45000

Under Harvey- 50000.

I reckon he would be a draw card. Especially if they had a good start to the year.

[Legendary]

Everyone is underestimating the hatred of Scott. On the St Kilda Instagram account, of the 500+ posts, at least a third are explicitly anti-Scott. Of the members I talk to who aren't on social media, I reckon at least half are emotionally and angrily against Scott being appointed.

It will be a very, very difficult sell for the club if that's their decision. No doubt membership will suffer.

[bigred]

Absolutely it would be a hard sell.

I wonder how much of the financial component actually comes into play through the selection process.

If it does then we can pretty much put a line through Scott right now.

[oldie60]

So let's appoint coaches to up memberships. I understand that it could play a small part but we need to become a competitive unit both on and off the field. I'm pretty sure we didn't worry about memberships when we appointed Jeans in 61, Patterson 78, Sheldon 90, Alves 95, Thomas 2001 and Lyon all of which along with the list of players gave us a crack at a flag.

[saynta]

So let's appoint coaches to up memberships. I understand that it could play a small part but we need to become a competitive unit both on and off the field. I'm pretty sure we didn't worry about memberships when we appointed Jeans in 61, Patterson 78, Sheldon 90, Alves 95, Thomas 2001 and Lyon all of which along with the list of players gave us a crack at a flag.

I was basically trying to point out that appointing a loser flog like Scott would cost the club in membership numbers big time. 9 that I pay for as a start.

That those numbers would increase if the saints favorite son was appointed. That would be a given.

According to the journo on AFL tonight, the saints have been inundated with calls to their switchboard from members threatening not to renew their memberships if that sour faced thug is appointed coach.

It would be a very unpopular appointment and I have to agree with bigred.

[desertsaint]

did becoming the team of pride bring any new memberships? any proud citizens changed club allegiance? any new outers come into the fold? curious if the club actually set goals and researched the outcome or was it simply a token attempt to generate a little publicity?

[Legendary]

Put it another way - there are hundreds of candidates available. Only two (Scott and Hird) will negatively impact member confidence. Do we really think either of them are that much better than the other hundreds of candidates that it's worth appointing them regardless? It's not like either of them are premiership or grand final coaches and we're likely to miss out on some exclusive wisdom that's unavailable elsewhere.

[tedtheodorelogan2018]

If things look up and depending on the coach and new recruits we could get 50k nearly.

[saynta]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-16/ ... rmer-great


"BRETT Ratten is a lock and Brad Scott another definite interviewee for St Kilda's coaching job.

Beyond that, prospective candidates will be determined by Saints president Andrew Bassat.

COACH KILLERS The six steps down to Richo's end

But there is another man who deserves not merely an invitation to apply but a wide open set of ears when he presents his case - St Kilda playing great Robert Harvey.

Bassat and his coaching sub-committee team now empowered with finding St Kilda's post-Alan Richardson coach simply owe it to Harvey, who after a Saints-record 383 matches, has spent the past 11 years in the AFL system at three clubs as an assistant coach.

Employing an ex-club playing great as a coach for those reasons alone is dumb business, but Harvey's credentials are more than sound: two seasons straight out of playing retirement beneath Ratten at Carlton, one year beneath Ross Lyon at St Kilda, and the past eight beneath Nathan Buckley at Collingwood.

Harvey has long wanted a senior job and is convinced he is ready. Buckley endorses Harvey's credentials and football nous.

And for a club screaming out for some supporter love and one which carries a seriously scary debt of $11 million-plus, Harvey would instantly fix a lot of matters the moment he walked back in Moorabbin.

Unlike North Melbourne, which is currently being run seemingly on the whim of Glenn Archer and Ben Buckley without any meaningful process that, if left unchecked, will lead to the official appointment of Rhyce Shaw as coach within the next fortnight, the Saints and Carlton are both committed to conducting the widest of coach searches.

The man Archer and Scott exited from their club after round 11, Brad Scott, will be canvassed by both the Saints and Blues.

Scott's personal friendship with St Kilda football department boss Simon Lethlean, once thought to be a near-guarantee to help him replace Richardson, may actually work against him given so much public focus has been recently placed on that situation, and that Bassat will be assuming more control in the coach search process than originally intended.

In yet another illustration of the conflicts at play in the AFL, Craig Kelly's management agency TLA represents Richardson, Scott and Harvey. So, TLA is currently negotiating with St Kilda officials Richardson's exit passage, and interviews for Scott and Harvey.

Former St Kilda coach Alan Richardson speaks to the media on Tuesday. Picture: AFL Photos

Curveballs for the assistant coaches wanting the vacant senior jobs at Carlton and St Kilda come respectively in two forms.

Premiership coaches Alastair Clarkson and Luke Beveridge.

The Blues have already asked Clarkson if he wants to break his contract with Hawthorn. St Kilda, if it hasn't already, will ask Beveridge if he's interested in leaving the Western Bulldogs. "