Brilliant for us that Bolts is gone....

[Rubyjo]

If we do nothing, Ratten to North (unless Rhyce Shaw hangs on), Scott to Carlton.

But movement at North and Carlton might force the board's hand. Then we might see Ratten use a bit of bribery to insist on an offer of the top job with us where we'd rather he just mind the shop till the end of the season.

Rhyse Shaw may be our man..

[damienc]

Now 100% of the media focus will be squarely on Cho, and hopefully by extension, Finnis and Lethlean.

I've asked you this before, have you actually ever been involved in any team sport or had anything to do with a sporting club?

Actually played in sporting clubs for 25 years of my life. Coached, captained, vice captained for a combined 8 years of that time. What is your point?

No way. You are too young and bitchy. I reckon you are a Gogglebox fan at the very most.

I asked you a question Highett - what are your credentials?

Gogglebox expert. What sport did you dominate? You do realise Badminton doesn't count.

As I thought - you are just another pleb with an opinion.

Come on come clean, it's badminton isn't it. I'm assuming you were a doubles player if you were a vice captain.

Seriously. Is that the best you can do? Happily and unusually for you there were no spelling mistakes.

[Saintmatt]

McGovern and McKay...please. Average at best.

Cripps is getting banged up from being no 1 and tagged and the Curnow brothers are overrated.

Walsh will be good.

But I don't care about the Blues, I follow the Saints.

So you are conceding they have at least two
please list any A graders we have!

Gresham and Billings are A grade for us.

Cripps is their only A grade player.

I strongly disagree. Gresham is getting better but still tries to do everything by himself and if he ever learns how to deliver a drop punt that spins even remotely correctly to our forwards' advantage ... that'll make a huge difference. At the moment - he's just a big of a serial bomber as the king of the midfield spuds himself (aka Ross).

As for Billings - I love watching him play ... when he plays. He's a serious talent. But - genuine A-graders do not completely dissapear like he did at 3/4 time against the Pies. Once he gets that out of his game - he's closer to an A grader than anyone else on our list.

[derby Street]

If we do nothing, Ratten to North (unless Rhyce Shaw hangs on), Scott to Carlton.

But movement at North and Carlton might force the board's hand. Then we might see Ratten use a bit of bribery to insist on an offer of the top job with us where we'd rather he just mind the shop till the end of the season.

Can anyone tell me what Ratten has achieved that makes him the Messiah?

Better than 50% winning record as a head coach, spent years under Clarko at the most successful club in recent history.

It’s a good start.

So did Bolton and left with glowing endorsements from Clarko - more than he offered Ratts.

[The_Dud]

McGovern and McKay...please. Average at best.

Cripps is getting banged up from being no 1 and tagged and the Curnow brothers are overrated.

Walsh will be good.

But I don't care about the Blues, I follow the Saints.

So you are conceding they have at least two
please list any A graders we have!

Gresham and Billings are A grade for us.

Cripps is their only A grade player.

Gresham and Billings? Surely you jest.

They occasionally have A grade games, but they are definitely not A grade players yet

[Impatient Sainter]

The only thing Richo has brought to the club is stability, because he doesnt upset anyone. When you dont have expectations of winning you are not likely to. Otherwise he has been a complete failure with an inability to improve the team skills, competitiveness or attractability to outside players.

His public persona is as boring as Bill shorten and he I believe he has a weak trait of blaming others or the club for his own short comings. Our season is shot we wont be playing finals and cant compete with the better teams the sooner we sack him and put Ratten in the main role the better.

[The_Dud]

If we do nothing, Ratten to North (unless Rhyce Shaw hangs on), Scott to Carlton.

But movement at North and Carlton might force the board's hand. Then we might see Ratten use a bit of bribery to insist on an offer of the top job with us where we'd rather he just mind the shop till the end of the season.

Can anyone tell me what Ratten has achieved that makes him the Messiah?

Better than 50% winning record as a head coach, spent years under Clarko at the most successful club in recent history.

It’s a good start.

So did Bolton and left with glowing endorsements from Clarko - more than he offered Ratts.

No Bolton had no senior coach experience.

Ratten went at 52.5% winning in 5 full seasons as Carlton coach, making finals 3 times and 10 wins being his worst season. He got sacked off an 11-11 season because the Blues had a hard-on for Malthouse.

To say he’s done nothing is ridiculous.

[suss]

If we do nothing, Ratten to North (unless Rhyce Shaw hangs on), Scott to Carlton.

But movement at North and Carlton might force the board's hand. Then we might see Ratten use a bit of bribery to insist on an offer of the top job with us where we'd rather he just mind the shop till the end of the season.

Can anyone tell me what Ratten has achieved that makes him the Messiah?

Better than 50% winning record as a head coach, spent years under Clarko at the most successful club in recent history.

It’s a good start.

So did Bolton and left with glowing endorsements from Clarko - more than he offered Ratts.

No Bolton had no senior coach experience.

Ratten went at 52.5% winning in 5 full seasons as Carlton coach, making finals 3 times and 10 wins being his worst season. He got sacked off an 11-11 season because the Blues had a hard-on for Malthouse.

To say he’s done nothing is ridiculous.

I want him even more now.

[HighettMan]

Now 100% of the media focus will be squarely on Cho, and hopefully by extension, Finnis and Lethlean.

I've asked you this before, have you actually ever been involved in any team sport or had anything to do with a sporting club?

Actually played in sporting clubs for 25 years of my life. Coached, captained, vice captained for a combined 8 years of that time. What is your point?

No way. You are too young and bitchy. I reckon you are a Gogglebox fan at the very most.

I asked you a question Highett - what are your credentials?

Gogglebox expert. What sport did you dominate? You do realise Badminton doesn't count.

As I thought - you are just another pleb with an opinion.

Come on come clean, it's badminton isn't it. I'm assuming you were a doubles player if you were a vice captain.

Seriously. Is that the best you can do? Happily and unusually for you there were no spelling mistakes.

I reckon you would have been able to handle a shuttlecock well in your day too aye! Were you a doubles player also, or did you prefer the singles game.

[The_Dud]

If we do nothing, Ratten to North (unless Rhyce Shaw hangs on), Scott to Carlton.

But movement at North and Carlton might force the board's hand. Then we might see Ratten use a bit of bribery to insist on an offer of the top job with us where we'd rather he just mind the shop till the end of the season.

Can anyone tell me what Ratten has achieved that makes him the Messiah?

Better than 50% winning record as a head coach, spent years under Clarko at the most successful club in recent history.

It’s a good start.

So did Bolton and left with glowing endorsements from Clarko - more than he offered Ratts.

No Bolton had no senior coach experience.

Ratten went at 52.5% winning in 5 full seasons as Carlton coach, making finals 3 times and 10 wins being his worst season. He got sacked off an 11-11 season because the Blues had a hard-on for Malthouse.

To say he’s done nothing is ridiculous.

I want him even more now.

That’s good. To say he brings nothing is ridiculous.

How have Shaw, Mitchell, Lenny, Harvey, etc gone in the hot seat?

(And yes, I know Shaw has one win under his belt)

[The_Dud]

Now 100% of the media focus will be squarely on Cho, and hopefully by extension, Finnis and Lethlean.

I've asked you this before, have you actually ever been involved in any team sport or had anything to do with a sporting club?

Actually played in sporting clubs for 25 years of my life. Coached, captained, vice captained for a combined 8 years of that time. What is your point?

No way. You are too young and bitchy. I reckon you are a Gogglebox fan at the very most.

I asked you a question Highett - what are your credentials?

Gogglebox expert. What sport did you dominate? You do realise Badminton doesn't count.

As I thought - you are just another pleb with an opinion.

Come on come clean, it's badminton isn't it. I'm assuming you were a doubles player if you were a vice captain.

Seriously. Is that the best you can do? Happily and unusually for you there were no spelling mistakes.

I reckon you would have been able to handle a shuttlecock well in your day too aye! Were you a doubles player also, or did you prefer the singles game.

Ooooh, and to top off being well and truly pwnd, Cairnsy chucks in a bit of homophobia to top it off!

Nice.

[HighettMan]

Now 100% of the media focus will be squarely on Cho, and hopefully by extension, Finnis and Lethlean.

I've asked you this before, have you actually ever been involved in any team sport or had anything to do with a sporting club?

Actually played in sporting clubs for 25 years of my life. Coached, captained, vice captained for a combined 8 years of that time. What is your point?

No way. You are too young and bitchy. I reckon you are a Gogglebox fan at the very most.

I asked you a question Highett - what are your credentials?

Gogglebox expert. What sport did you dominate? You do realise Badminton doesn't count.

As I thought - you are just another pleb with an opinion.

Come on come clean, it's badminton isn't it. I'm assuming you were a doubles player if you were a vice captain.

Seriously. Is that the best you can do? Happily and unusually for you there were no spelling mistakes.

I reckon you would have been able to handle a shuttlecock well in your day too aye! Were you a doubles player also, or did you prefer the singles game.

Ooooh, and to top off being well and truly pwnd, Cairnsy chucks in a bit of homophobia to top it off!

Nice.

where do you get homophobia from? we are talking about badminton.

[ss1986]

Now 100% of the media focus will be squarely on Cho, and hopefully by extension, Finnis and Lethlean.

I've asked you this before, have you actually ever been involved in any team sport or had anything to do with a sporting club?

Actually played in sporting clubs for 25 years of my life. Coached, captained, vice captained for a combined 8 years of that time. What is your point?

No way. You are too young and bitchy. I reckon you are a Gogglebox fan at the very most.

I asked you a question Highett - what are your credentials?

Gogglebox expert. What sport did you dominate? You do realise Badminton doesn't count.

As I thought - you are just another pleb with an opinion.

Come on come clean, it's badminton isn't it. I'm assuming you were a doubles player if you were a vice captain.

Seriously. Is that the best you can do? Happily and unusually for you there were no spelling mistakes.

I reckon you would have been able to handle a shuttlecock well in your day too aye! Were you a doubles player also, or did you prefer the singles game.

Ooooh, and to top off being well and truly pwnd, Cairnsy chucks in a bit of homophobia to top it off!

Nice.

where do you get homophobia from? we are talking about badminton.

Cairnsy - please... enlighten us.... what are your actual credentials that give you a solid foundation upon which your views (on the rare occasion when you care to talk football) are built?

Still awaiting a decent answer from you. But... true to form... you resort to utter crap when you have no decent response.

[HighettMan]

Now 100% of the media focus will be squarely on Cho, and hopefully by extension, Finnis and Lethlean.

I've asked you this before, have you actually ever been involved in any team sport or had anything to do with a sporting club?

Actually played in sporting clubs for 25 years of my life. Coached, captained, vice captained for a combined 8 years of that time. What is your point?

No way. You are too young and bitchy. I reckon you are a Gogglebox fan at the very most.

I asked you a question Highett - what are your credentials?

Gogglebox expert. What sport did you dominate? You do realise Badminton doesn't count.

As I thought - you are just another pleb with an opinion.

Come on come clean, it's badminton isn't it. I'm assuming you were a doubles player if you were a vice captain.

Seriously. Is that the best you can do? Happily and unusually for you there were no spelling mistakes.

I reckon you would have been able to handle a shuttlecock well in your day too aye! Were you a doubles player also, or did you prefer the singles game.

Ooooh, and to top off being well and truly pwnd, Cairnsy chucks in a bit of homophobia to top it off!

Nice.

where do you get homophobia from? we are talking about badminton.

Cairnsy - please... enlighten us.... what are your actual credentials that give you a solid foundation upon which your views (on the rare occasion when you care to talk football) are built?

Still awaiting a decent answer from you. But... true to form... you resort to utter crap when you have no decent response.

I'm a mushroom farmer and I specialise in manure grading, I've got a natural talent for being able to tell how old manure is by just smelling it. As far as sport goes I won the Koo Wee Rup U13 1983 table tennis championship, I've still got the trophy. I'll be honest I'm not a threat to your ambitions to taking over the club presidency.

Is my spelling and grammar ok in this post? I've been practising.

[ss1986]

Now 100% of the media focus will be squarely on Cho, and hopefully by extension, Finnis and Lethlean.

I've asked you this before, have you actually ever been involved in any team sport or had anything to do with a sporting club?

Actually played in sporting clubs for 25 years of my life. Coached, captained, vice captained for a combined 8 years of that time. What is your point?

No way. You are too young and bitchy. I reckon you are a Gogglebox fan at the very most.

I asked you a question Highett - what are your credentials?

Gogglebox expert. What sport did you dominate? You do realise Badminton doesn't count.

As I thought - you are just another pleb with an opinion.

Come on come clean, it's badminton isn't it. I'm assuming you were a doubles player if you were a vice captain.

Seriously. Is that the best you can do? Happily and unusually for you there were no spelling mistakes.

I reckon you would have been able to handle a shuttlecock well in your day too aye! Were you a doubles player also, or did you prefer the singles game.

Ooooh, and to top off being well and truly pwnd, Cairnsy chucks in a bit of homophobia to top it off!

Nice.

where do you get homophobia from? we are talking about badminton.

Cairnsy - please... enlighten us.... what are your actual credentials that give you a solid foundation upon which your views (on the rare occasion when you care to talk football) are built?

Still awaiting a decent answer from you. But... true to form... you resort to utter crap when you have no decent response.

I'm a mushroom farmer and I specialise in manure grading, I've got a natural talent for being able to tell how old manure is by just smelling it. As far as sport goes I won the Koo Wee Rup U13 1983 table tennis championship, I've still got the trophy. I'll be honest I'm not a threat to your ambitions to taking over the club presidency.

Is my spelling and grammar ok in this post? I've been practising.

You’d only need to talk to your mushrooms to keep them fertilised.

[HighettMan]

Now 100% of the media focus will be squarely on Cho, and hopefully by extension, Finnis and Lethlean.

I've asked you this before, have you actually ever been involved in any team sport or had anything to do with a sporting club?

Actually played in sporting clubs for 25 years of my life. Coached, captained, vice captained for a combined 8 years of that time. What is your point?

No way. You are too young and bitchy. I reckon you are a Gogglebox fan at the very most.

I asked you a question Highett - what are your credentials?

Gogglebox expert. What sport did you dominate? You do realise Badminton doesn't count.

As I thought - you are just another pleb with an opinion.

Come on come clean, it's badminton isn't it. I'm assuming you were a doubles player if you were a vice captain.

Seriously. Is that the best you can do? Happily and unusually for you there were no spelling mistakes.

I reckon you would have been able to handle a shuttlecock well in your day too aye! Were you a doubles player also, or did you prefer the singles game.

Ooooh, and to top off being well and truly pwnd, Cairnsy chucks in a bit of homophobia to top it off!

Nice.

where do you get homophobia from? we are talking about badminton.

Cairnsy - please... enlighten us.... what are your actual credentials that give you a solid foundation upon which your views (on the rare occasion when you care to talk football) are built?

Still awaiting a decent answer from you. But... true to form... you resort to utter crap when you have no decent response.

I'm a mushroom farmer and I specialise in manure grading, I've got a natural talent for being able to tell how old manure is by just smelling it. As far as sport goes I won the Koo Wee Rup U13 1983 table tennis championship, I've still got the trophy. I'll be honest I'm not a threat to your ambitions to taking over the club presidency.

Is my spelling and grammar ok in this post? I've been practising.

You’d only need to talk to your mushrooms to keep them fertilised.

Does your Mum know you are on the internet.

<1 week ban for ongoing dispute>

[Annoyedsaint]

Highett Man.
C’mon.....at least give a decent rebuttal.
You are giving the impression you just graduated from kindergarten.

[ss1986]

Now 100% of the media focus will be squarely on Cho, and hopefully by extension, Finnis and Lethlean.

I've asked you this before, have you actually ever been involved in any team sport or had anything to do with a sporting club?

Actually played in sporting clubs for 25 years of my life. Coached, captained, vice captained for a combined 8 years of that time. What is your point?

No way. You are too young and bitchy. I reckon you are a Gogglebox fan at the very most.

I asked you a question Highett - what are your credentials?

Gogglebox expert. What sport did you dominate? You do realise Badminton doesn't count.

As I thought - you are just another pleb with an opinion.

Come on come clean, it's badminton isn't it. I'm assuming you were a doubles player if you were a vice captain.

Seriously. Is that the best you can do? Happily and unusually for you there were no spelling mistakes.

I reckon you would have been able to handle a shuttlecock well in your day too aye! Were you a doubles player also, or did you prefer the singles game.

Ooooh, and to top off being well and truly pwnd, Cairnsy chucks in a bit of homophobia to top it off!

Nice.

where do you get homophobia from? we are talking about badminton.

Cairnsy - please... enlighten us.... what are your actual credentials that give you a solid foundation upon which your views (on the rare occasion when you care to talk football) are built?

Still awaiting a decent answer from you. But... true to form... you resort to utter crap when you have no decent response.

I'm a mushroom farmer and I specialise in manure grading, I've got a natural talent for being able to tell how old manure is by just smelling it. As far as sport goes I won the Koo Wee Rup U13 1983 table tennis championship, I've still got the trophy. I'll be honest I'm not a threat to your ambitions to taking over the club presidency.

Is my spelling and grammar ok in this post? I've been practising.

You’d only need to talk to your mushrooms to keep them fertilised.

Does your Mum know you are on the internet.

I’d respond to your post by calling you what I think of you, but I’d be banned for a year and then I couldn’t keep up the pressure on Cho.

[HighettMan]

Now 100% of the media focus will be squarely on Cho, and hopefully by extension, Finnis and Lethlean.

I've asked you this before, have you actually ever been involved in any team sport or had anything to do with a sporting club?

Actually played in sporting clubs for 25 years of my life. Coached, captained, vice captained for a combined 8 years of that time. What is your point?

No way. You are too young and bitchy. I reckon you are a Gogglebox fan at the very most.

I asked you a question Highett - what are your credentials?

Gogglebox expert. What sport did you dominate? You do realise Badminton doesn't count.

As I thought - you are just another pleb with an opinion.

Come on come clean, it's badminton isn't it. I'm assuming you were a doubles player if you were a vice captain.

Seriously. Is that the best you can do? Happily and unusually for you there were no spelling mistakes.

I reckon you would have been able to handle a shuttlecock well in your day too aye! Were you a doubles player also, or did you prefer the singles game.

Ooooh, and to top off being well and truly pwnd, Cairnsy chucks in a bit of homophobia to top it off!

Nice.

where do you get homophobia from? we are talking about badminton.

Cairnsy - please... enlighten us.... what are your actual credentials that give you a solid foundation upon which your views (on the rare occasion when you care to talk football) are built?

Still awaiting a decent answer from you. But... true to form... you resort to utter crap when you have no decent response.

I'm a mushroom farmer and I specialise in manure grading, I've got a natural talent for being able to tell how old manure is by just smelling it. As far as sport goes I won the Koo Wee Rup U13 1983 table tennis championship, I've still got the trophy. I'll be honest I'm not a threat to your ambitions to taking over the club presidency.

Is my spelling and grammar ok in this post? I've been practising.

You’d only need to talk to your mushrooms to keep them fertilised.

Does your Mum know you are on the internet.

I’d respond to your post by calling you what I think of you, but I’d be banned for a year and then I couldn’t keep up the pressure on Cho.

Mum would probably get cranky with you too.

[ss1986]

Now 100% of the media focus will be squarely on Cho, and hopefully by extension, Finnis and Lethlean.

I've asked you this before, have you actually ever been involved in any team sport or had anything to do with a sporting club?

Actually played in sporting clubs for 25 years of my life. Coached, captained, vice captained for a combined 8 years of that time. What is your point?

No way. You are too young and bitchy. I reckon you are a Gogglebox fan at the very most.

I asked you a question Highett - what are your credentials?

Gogglebox expert. What sport did you dominate? You do realise Badminton doesn't count.

As I thought - you are just another pleb with an opinion.

Come on come clean, it's badminton isn't it. I'm assuming you were a doubles player if you were a vice captain.

Seriously. Is that the best you can do? Happily and unusually for you there were no spelling mistakes.

I reckon you would have been able to handle a shuttlecock well in your day too aye! Were you a doubles player also, or did you prefer the singles game.

Ooooh, and to top off being well and truly pwnd, Cairnsy chucks in a bit of homophobia to top it off!

Nice.

where do you get homophobia from? we are talking about badminton.

Cairnsy - please... enlighten us.... what are your actual credentials that give you a solid foundation upon which your views (on the rare occasion when you care to talk football) are built?

Still awaiting a decent answer from you. But... true to form... you resort to utter crap when you have no decent response.

I'm a mushroom farmer and I specialise in manure grading, I've got a natural talent for being able to tell how old manure is by just smelling it. As far as sport goes I won the Koo Wee Rup U13 1983 table tennis championship, I've still got the trophy. I'll be honest I'm not a threat to your ambitions to taking over the club presidency.

Is my spelling and grammar ok in this post? I've been practising.

You’d only need to talk to your mushrooms to keep them fertilised.

Does your Mum know you are on the internet.

I’d respond to your post by calling you what I think of you, but I’d be banned for a year and then I couldn’t keep up the pressure on Cho.

Mum would probably get cranky with you too.

[ss1986]

What a bottom feeder you are.

[bigred]

Could you clowns stop quoting three quarters of the damn thread in your attempts to one up each other? Poor form.

Carltons biggest error in the past twenty years was getting rid of Ratten. The board seriously overrated their list at the time and thought that Malthouse was the messiah. Their list was average. Malthouse had a shyte old time with it.

Our next senior coach should be someone experienced. Ratten ticks the boxes. He did the job at over 50% with a pretty average list and then went with the Hawks through their glory years. That hawthorn gamplan is pretty much done with now and any "IP" has been muddied by all the assistant coaches that have spread throughout the comp. The guy knows how to coach though.

If Ratt's could come up with a plan for the next five years I would be happy with offering him five years straight off the bat. If we tail out poorly over the next eight weeks I would be really wanting to move sooner rather than later.

[thefatdork]

I tend to agree with you Bigred.
I think Ratts was a pretty good coach at Carlton but was bumped out by the Malthouse-mania at Carlton and unrealistic expectations regarding their list.
I like Richo as a person and I’ve been prepared to give him a chance over time but the last 2 years with no improvement, no gameplan and basically no idea has lost my support - he’s got to go.
Go Saints!
TFD

[ss1986]

How many times do we all need to reiterate - the pressure on Richo has nothing to do with the bloke himself as an individual (who seenms a really likeable bloke).... but everything to do with his (in)ability to extract the best from this playing group?

Those fierce defenders of Cho seem to think this is a person witchhunt. Id rather lead the witch hunt on Finnis... useless as he is.

[portosaint]

Highett Man.
C’mon.....at least give a decent rebuttal.
You are giving the impression you just graduated from kindergarten.

It's becoming increasingly evident he was bullied there as well. Poor little munchkin