Tom Scully to Hawks for third round pick?

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Re: Tom Scully to Hawks for third round pick?

Post: # 1770963Post Sainternist »

Well, apparently Scully is now up and about and training the house down. If he plays the first half of the 2019 season, this trade ought to be investigated.


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Re: Tom Scully to Hawks for third round pick?

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dragit wrote: Wed 17 Oct 2018 8:05am
CURLY wrote: Wed 17 Oct 2018 7:51am
dragit wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 10:55pm
CURLY wrote: Tue 16 Oct 2018 5:56pm He is 50/50 to get back his ankle is that bad. Without his elite running he becomes a average footballer.
50/50 is a much higher rate than most of our list of becoming a gun.

Scully is a top 10 pick if fit, well worth the salary risk.
Yep I could just imagine the posting on here if he sat out injured for the next two seasons on 800k.
I'm looking forward to the posting after we get destroyed by hawthorn led by Mitchell, O'Meara, Wingard, Scully & Scrimshaw.
To be fair though, we have only beaten them once in nine seasons, so Scully won't be the difference when this happens. They'll probably only beat us by six points though, because that's how they win most of their matches if we're being honest.


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Re: Tom Scully to Hawks for third round pick?

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'Razor' Ray Chamberlain was up there at their training camp too.


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Re: Tom Scully to Hawks for third round pick?

Post: # 1771072Post samoht »

I'm sure Scully will be fine.
It's the Hawk recruiters that have made the real difference and brought about their 3-peat success.
Players like Mitchell, Wingard, Scully, etc... will help keep the wall-punching (from their coach) to a minimum.

We need recruiters like that.
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Re: Tom Scully to Hawks for third round pick?

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samoht wrote: Sun 23 Dec 2018 10:04am I'm sure Scully will be fine.
It's the Hawk recruiters that have made the real difference and brought about their 3-peat success.
Players like Mitchell, Wingard, Scully, etc... will help keep the wall-punching (from their coach) to a minimum.

We need recruiters like that.
Hmmm recruiting under false pretences isn't good recruiting, it's unethical recruiting. GWS will also be found guilty, if those goes under investigation.


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Re: Tom Scully to Hawks for third round pick?

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Sainternist wrote: Tue 01 Jan 2019 7:15pm
samoht wrote: Sun 23 Dec 2018 10:04am I'm sure Scully will be fine.
It's the Hawk recruiters that have made the real difference and brought about their 3-peat success.
Players like Mitchell, Wingard, Scully, etc... will help keep the wall-punching (from their coach) to a minimum.

We need recruiters like that.
Hmmm recruiting under false pretences isn't good recruiting, it's unethical recruiting. GWS will also be found guilty, if those goes under investigation.
It's the free market. Regardless of how much this trade seems unfair because the Hawks got a bargain they arguably don't need or deserve, both parties were willing participants. Not much difference for someone choosing to sell their unit at a bargain price for a quick sale.


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Re: Tom Scully to Hawks for third round pick?

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SydneySainter wrote: Wed 02 Jan 2019 1:10pm
Sainternist wrote: Tue 01 Jan 2019 7:15pm
samoht wrote: Sun 23 Dec 2018 10:04am I'm sure Scully will be fine.
It's the Hawk recruiters that have made the real difference and brought about their 3-peat success.
Players like Mitchell, Wingard, Scully, etc... will help keep the wall-punching (from their coach) to a minimum.

We need recruiters like that.
Hmmm recruiting under false pretences isn't good recruiting, it's unethical recruiting. GWS will also be found guilty, if those goes under investigation.
It's the free market. Regardless of how much this trade seems unfair because the Hawks got a bargain they arguably don't need or deserve, both parties were willing participants. Not much difference for someone choosing to sell their unit at a bargain price for a quick sale.
Not if it's misleading to the league and the other clubs. Surely, there are rules that have been made to prevent collusion.


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Re: Tom Scully to Hawks for third round pick?

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SydneySainter wrote: Wed 02 Jan 2019 1:10pm
Sainternist wrote: Tue 01 Jan 2019 7:15pm
samoht wrote: Sun 23 Dec 2018 10:04am I'm sure Scully will be fine.
It's the Hawk recruiters that have made the real difference and brought about their 3-peat success.
Players like Mitchell, Wingard, Scully, etc... will help keep the wall-punching (from their coach) to a minimum.

We need recruiters like that.
Hmmm recruiting under false pretences isn't good recruiting, it's unethical recruiting. GWS will also be found guilty, if those goes under investigation.

It's the free market. Regardless of how much this trade seems unfair because the Hawks got a bargain they arguably don't need or deserve, both parties were willing participants. Not much difference for someone choosing to sell their unit at a bargain price for a quick sale.
one of the assumptions of a free market is "perfect information". If all people in the market have the same information, they can compete on a level field. If one party provides misinformation or has inside knowledge that is not known to others, then it is not a free market. This is why there are laws against insider trading.

Or, as you used the unit analogy, if someone spreads false information that a unit is contaminated and un-inhabitable and then buys it at a cheap price, below market value, that is not buying within a "free market" and indeed is illegal.


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Re: Tom Scully to Hawks for third round pick?

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That's why the EMH is a wank.


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Re: Tom Scully to Hawks for third round pick?

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SuperDuper wrote: Thu 03 Jan 2019 7:35pm
SydneySainter wrote: Wed 02 Jan 2019 1:10pm
Sainternist wrote: Tue 01 Jan 2019 7:15pm
samoht wrote: Sun 23 Dec 2018 10:04am I'm sure Scully will be fine.
It's the Hawk recruiters that have made the real difference and brought about their 3-peat success.
Players like Mitchell, Wingard, Scully, etc... will help keep the wall-punching (from their coach) to a minimum.

We need recruiters like that.
Hmmm recruiting under false pretences isn't good recruiting, it's unethical recruiting. GWS will also be found guilty, if those goes under investigation.

It's the free market. Regardless of how much this trade seems unfair because the Hawks got a bargain they arguably don't need or deserve, both parties were willing participants. Not much difference for someone choosing to sell their unit at a bargain price for a quick sale.
one of the assumptions of a free market is "perfect information". If all people in the market have the same information, they can compete on a level field. If one party provides misinformation or has inside knowledge that is not known to others, then it is not a free market. This is why there are laws against insider trading.

Or, as you used the unit analogy, if someone spreads false information that a unit is contaminated and un-inhabitable and then buys it at a cheap price, below market value, that is not buying within a "free market" and indeed is illegal.
True, but on what basis do we know that their has been misinformation about Scully’s health?

We were also interested in Scully, but couldn’t do a deal. Not because we were concerned about his health, but because he didn’t want to come to us.


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Re: Tom Scully to Hawks for third round pick?

Post: # 1771473Post ausfatcat »

I think his recovery rate has been greatly exaggerated


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Re: Tom Scully to Hawks for third round pick?

Post: # 1771477Post dragit »

ausfatcat wrote: Fri 04 Jan 2019 7:27pm I think his recovery rate has been greatly exaggerated
In which direction?

Does he have a pretty good or very low chance of playing decent football again?

Damn good player for a future 4th rounder if he plays any footy again.


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Re: Tom Scully to Hawks for third round pick?

Post: # 1771478Post ausfatcat »

I think that's the point of it he may not play again


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