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Post: # 1760836Post Sainternist »

I hate that club more than just about anything. Of course they were going to cut into our lunch.

Only they could be revived so quickly after being caught cheating. If it's not drugs, they're cheating the cap. Now they seem to have squeezed Shiel in there.

I really didn't want them to get Shiel, but now all their arsehole supporters are rubbing it in our faces. There's no parity in this damn competition.


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Post: # 1760838Post CURLY »

AFL rewarded them for cheating. Round 1 pick and access to the best VFL talent for being the biggest cheats the AFL has seen.


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Post: # 1760839Post spert »

Doesn't GWS have to agree to a deal first- they haven't yet and have said Shiel is still contracted for 2019


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Post: # 1760840Post saintadamski »

Jesus, no money in the world will attract an A grader to our basket case dribbling club.

All good, I'm actually happy that we've kept pick #4 - but I have no faith in our recruiters getting it right.

Going to be a long 2019...the upside, is that Richo will be gone by about round 6.

The funniest though is Carlton missing out after flying him around in private jets lmao
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Post: # 1760842Post st.byron »

Agree with the OP. Despise them. Worsfold is one of the most arrogant twats going around.


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Post: # 1760846Post barneyboyz »

saintadamski wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:34pm Jesus, no money in the world will attract an A grader to our basket case dribbling club.

All good, I'm actually happy that we've kept pick #4 - but I have no faith in our recruiters getting it right.

Going to be a long 2019...the upside, is that Richo will be gone by about round 6.

The funniest though is Carlton missing out after flying him around in private jets lmao
And the club has the cheek to ring us and ask for an extra $200 to prop them up! Guess they won't be needing it now?


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Post: # 1760847Post takeaway »

Glad we still have pick 4, which is too high for Shiel, who is very good but not elite. We had a red hot go though, and the club deserves credit for that.

Thinking about it, Essendon had the best hand, pick 9 which is closer to Shiel's value, and a list that is probably closest to challenging, even above Hawthorn. Bombers also apparently upped their offer in the latter stages.


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Post: # 1760848Post iwantmeseats »

saintadamski wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:34pm Jesus, no money in the world will attract an A grader to our basket case dribbling club.

All good, I'm actually happy that we've kept pick #4 - but I have no faith in our recruiters getting it right.

Going to be a long 2019...the upside, is that Richo will be gone by about round 6.

The funniest though is Carlton missing out after flying him around in private jets lmao
This is the crux of it, although many dont want to hear it.
Lets just laugh at Cartlon I agree.


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Post: # 1760849Post saintsRrising »

spert wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:33pm Doesn't GWS have to agree to a deal first- they haven't yet and have said Shiel is still contracted for 2019
Yes they do.

Dons have Pick 8. So that plus either next years first, a second rounder or a player GWS want will get it done.


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Post: # 1760851Post SaintPav »

takeaway wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:41pm Glad we still have pick 4, which is too high for Shiel, who is very good but not elite. We had a red hot go though, and the club deserves credit for that.

Thinking about it, Essendon had the best hand, pick 9 which is closer to Shiel's value, and a list that is probably closest to challenging, even above Hawthorn. Bombers also apparently upped their offer in the latter stages.
Amazing how they are close to challenging given their recent history...

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Post: # 1760852Post barneyboyz »

SaintPav wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:43pm
takeaway wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:41pm Glad we still have pick 4, which is too high for Shiel, who is very good but not elite. We had a red hot go though, and the club deserves credit for that.

Thinking about it, Essendon had the best hand, pick 9 which is closer to Shiel's value, and a list that is probably closest to challenging, even above Hawthorn. Bombers also apparently upped their offer in the latter stages.
Amazing how they are close to challenging given their history...

"too big to fail"

"too big to gaol"...
Is that a slip? either way...


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iwantmeseats wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:41pm
saintadamski wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:34pm Jesus, no money in the world will attract an A grader to our basket case dribbling club.

All good, I'm actually happy that we've kept pick #4 - but I have no faith in our recruiters getting it right.

Going to be a long 2019...the upside, is that Richo will be gone by about round 6.

The funniest though is Carlton missing out after flying him around in private jets lmao
This is the crux of it, although many dont want to hear it.
Lets just laugh at Cartlon I agree.
"Why would he come to us?, we have made it clear that our number one target is a slow inside mid who cant kick and who's best days are behind him. Shiel would be thinking "stuff that"I'll have to do all the grunt work to make up for his inadequacies and hes getting $800k a year"
We will never attract an A grader until we stop recruiting other clubs rejects


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Post: # 1760855Post saintsRrising »

Well the good news is that the Hawks did not land him. All their fans crowing about getting Shiel for peanuts was driving me batty.


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Post: # 1760856Post Enrico_Misso »

iwantmeseats wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:41pm
saintadamski wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:34pm Jesus, no money in the world will attract an A grader to our basket case dribbling club.

All good, I'm actually happy that we've kept pick #4 - but I have no faith in our recruiters getting it right.

Going to be a long 2019...the upside, is that Richo will be gone by about round 6.

The funniest though is Carlton missing out after flying him around in private jets lmao
This is the crux of it, although many dont want to hear it.
Lets just laugh at Cartlon I agree.
... and the AFL have decreed that even though the private jet was donated the cost needs to be included in their coaching salary cap. :D


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Post: # 1760859Post saintadamski »

Enrico_Misso wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:48pm
iwantmeseats wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:41pm
saintadamski wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:34pm Jesus, no money in the world will attract an A grader to our basket case dribbling club.

All good, I'm actually happy that we've kept pick #4 - but I have no faith in our recruiters getting it right.

Going to be a long 2019...the upside, is that Richo will be gone by about round 6.

The funniest though is Carlton missing out after flying him around in private jets lmao
This is the crux of it, although many dont want to hear it.
Lets just laugh at Cartlon I agree.
... and the AFL have decreed that even though the private jet was donated the cost needs to be included in their coaching salary cap. :D
LMAO

Well I would say no looking at this face too!!

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Post: # 1760862Post SaintPav »

barneyboyz wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:44pm
SaintPav wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:43pm
takeaway wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:41pm Glad we still have pick 4, which is too high for Shiel, who is very good but not elite. We had a red hot go though, and the club deserves credit for that.

Thinking about it, Essendon had the best hand, pick 9 which is closer to Shiel's value, and a list that is probably closest to challenging, even above Hawthorn. Bombers also apparently upped their offer in the latter stages.
Amazing how they are close to challenging given their history...

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"too big to gaol"...
Is that a slip? either way...
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Post: # 1760866Post iwantmeseats »

takeaway wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:41pm Glad we still have pick 4, which is too high for Shiel, who is very good but not elite. We had a red hot go though, and the club deserves credit for that.

Thinking about it, Essendon had the best hand, pick 9 which is closer to Shiel's value, and a list that is probably closest to challenging, even above Hawthorn. Bombers also apparently upped their offer in the latter stages.
Yeha nah well done to the club, well done, bravo! They are doing such a great job.


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Post: # 1760873Post damienc »

Sainternist wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:31pm I hate that club more than just about anything. Of course they were going to cut into our lunch.

Only they could be revived so quickly after being caught cheating. If it's not drugs, they're cheating the cap. Now they seem to have squeezed Shiel in there.

I really didn't want them to get Shiel, but now all their arsehole supporters are rubbing it in our faces. There's no parity in this damn competition.
Calm down. We were never in the race to get Shiel. Quite frankly it isn't a bad thing to have missed out considering we were offering way more than he was worth. And we get to keep pick 4.

To be paying Shiel $1.3 mill you'd want to be guaranteed of winning a premiership. Shiel was never going to do that for us. We need more than him.

Besides, Hawthorn and Carlton were way ahead of us in terms of being able to land him. And that really is the point.

We should be seriously upset and worried that no A graders want to play for us. Not Shiel not Gaff ,not anyone. Doesn't matter how much money we were prepared to throw at them. Says it all really. And Hanners is way past his best.

Makes we wonder what our existing playing group really thinks of the club.

The word is out and the club needs to take a long, hard objective look at itself in every way. We are going backwards not forwards.


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Post: # 1760878Post Bruce G McAbee »

Let's face it, we would have all been very surprised if they pulled this off.


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Post: # 1760884Post barneyboyz »

SaintPav wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 3:02pm
barneyboyz wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:44pm
SaintPav wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:43pm
takeaway wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:41pm Glad we still have pick 4, which is too high for Shiel, who is very good but not elite. We had a red hot go though, and the club deserves credit for that.

Thinking about it, Essendon had the best hand, pick 9 which is closer to Shiel's value, and a list that is probably closest to challenging, even above Hawthorn. Bombers also apparently upped their offer in the latter stages.
Amazing how they are close to challenging given their history...

"too big to fail"

"too big to gaol"...
Is that a slip? either way...
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"Fail" or "Gaol" Watson...Either way suits :idea:


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damienc wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 3:23pm
Sainternist wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:31pm I hate that club more than just about anything. Of course they were going to cut into our lunch.

Only they could be revived so quickly after being caught cheating. If it's not drugs, they're cheating the cap. Now they seem to have squeezed Shiel in there.

I really didn't want them to get Shiel, but now all their arsehole supporters are rubbing it in our faces. There's no parity in this damn competition.
Calm down. We were never in the race to get Shiel. Quite frankly it isn't a bad thing to have missed out considering we were offering way more than he was worth. And we get to keep pick 4.

To be paying Shiel $1.3 mill you'd want to be guaranteed of winning a premiership. Shiel was never going to do that for us. We need more than him.

Besides, Hawthorn and Carlton were way ahead of us in terms of being able to land him. And that really is the point.

We should be seriously upset and worried that no A graders want to play for us. Not Shiel not Gaff ,not anyone. Doesn't matter how much money we were prepared to throw at them. Says it all really. And Hanners is way past his best.

Makes we wonder what our existing playing group really thinks of the club.

The word is out and the club needs to take a long, hard objective look at itself in every way. We are going backwards not forwards.
If the best we end up getting is Hanners and Barrett is proven right and Steven requests a trade, that will just about say it all.


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Post: # 1760891Post WellardSaint »

Shiel would have to do a lot more with us, to cover our lack of talent n speed in the midfield.

Money can't make up for all the pressure.

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Post: # 1760898Post Joffa Burns »

Carslile must be happy he jumped off that sinking ship at Essendon to come to the Saints and be a part of Saints Footy every week.


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Post: # 1760911Post rodgerfox »

iwantmeseats wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 3:06pm
takeaway wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:41pm Glad we still have pick 4, which is too high for Shiel, who is very good but not elite. We had a red hot go though, and the club deserves credit for that.

Thinking about it, Essendon had the best hand, pick 9 which is closer to Shiel's value, and a list that is probably closest to challenging, even above Hawthorn. Bombers also apparently upped their offer in the latter stages.
Yeha nah well done to the club, well done, bravo! They are doing such a great job.
Can I just ask, what can the club actually do to get a player to come?

Offer big money.
Offer more opportunity.
Offer long contract.
Marquee games at the MCG such as ANZAC Day.
Big crowds every week.
Great development.
Finals.


We simply can't offer the last four. It's beyond the recruiters control.
The second is null, given he's a starting mid anyway.
And we certainly threw everything at the second and third ones.

What more exactly do you expect the club to do? Sometimes you just miss out. It's not always someone's fault or due to incompetence.


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Post: # 1760913Post saint6709 »

rodgerfox wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 4:29pm
iwantmeseats wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 3:06pm
takeaway wrote: Tue 09 Oct 2018 2:41pm Glad we still have pick 4, which is too high for Shiel, who is very good but not elite. We had a red hot go though, and the club deserves credit for that.

Thinking about it, Essendon had the best hand, pick 9 which is closer to Shiel's value, and a list that is probably closest to challenging, even above Hawthorn. Bombers also apparently upped their offer in the latter stages.
Yeha nah well done to the club, well done, bravo! They are doing such a great job.
Can I just ask, what can the club actually do to get a player to come?

Offer big money.
Offer more opportunity.
Offer long contract.
Marquee games at the MCG such as ANZAC Day.
Big crowds every week.
Great development.
Finals.


We simply can't offer the last four. It's beyond the recruiters control.
The second is null, given he's a starting mid anyway.
And we certainly threw everything at the second and third ones.

What more exactly do you expect the club to do? Sometimes you just miss out. It's not always someone's fault or due to incompetence.
Maybe the thousands of comments in threads here and on BF calling for more change at the club - ESPECIALLY in the coaching department need to be considered - I think a young champion is probably not that keen on coming to a club that has won 4 games when the club is publicly stating that there inst a major problem and the coach is blaming the players and saying next year he will coach more strongly !!

I can see why you wouldn't want to come

I am not that fussed about missing him weirdly enough and think there are number of other targets we should have chased instead - glad to keep pick 4


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