Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

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Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith

Poll ended at Tue 16 Oct 2018 4:40pm

Rankine
23
52%
Rozee
1
2%
Smith
16
36%
King
4
9%
 
Total votes: 44

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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757027Post skeptic »

Impatient Sainter wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 7:51pm We desperately need quality midfielders so I went with Smith, but wouldnt be unhappy with Rankine.
There was a rumour a few weeks back RE Brisbane trading their first pick for a Ross or Steven....
If it lead to getting both, well let’s just say I’d seriously consider it


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757034Post BenLong#21 »

skeptic wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 8:51pm
Impatient Sainter wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 7:51pm We desperately need quality midfielders so I went with Smith, but wouldnt be unhappy with Rankine.
There was a rumour a few weeks back RE Brisbane trading their first pick for a Ross or Steven....
If it lead to getting both, well let’s just say I’d seriously consider it
Brisbane are gunning for Lachie Neale with that pick I think.


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757036Post derby Street »

kosifantutti wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 7:38pm
derby Street wrote:What is unexplained is why we traded away our 2nd & 3rd picks in what is widely regarded as 2018 being a strong draft. Not sure what we have to trade without throwing the baby out with the bath water.
I don’t know how anyone can say it’s a strong draft. 18 year olds play against other 18 year olds. They might look good now, but what happens when they play against men?

And how well does this “strong draft” extend to picks in the 2nd and 3rd round?
A few of the South Australian lads played regularly against men (and did well) and the SA U 18 team were a clear standout.


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757042Post DJ Higgins »

All rumours regarding Brisbane giving us their pick. Not going to happen as our guys are not worth it. Plus Id rather keep 2 of only a handful pf plates actually playing well


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757044Post BenLong#21 »

derby Street wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 9:23pm
kosifantutti wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 7:38pm
derby Street wrote:What is unexplained is why we traded away our 2nd & 3rd picks in what is widely regarded as 2018 being a strong draft. Not sure what we have to trade without throwing the baby out with the bath water.
I don’t know how anyone can say it’s a strong draft. 18 year olds play against other 18 year olds. They might look good now, but what happens when they play against men?

And how well does this “strong draft” extend to picks in the 2nd and 3rd round?
A few of the South Australian lads played regularly against men (and did well) and the SA U 18 team were a clear standout.
Rozee played perhaps the best game of his season last week, a 24-disposal and 10-mark effort for North Adelaide's senior SANFL side. It was a standout display that highlighted his skills: he moved swiftly across half-back, created play with his disposals, was strong and clever in the air and he made things happen

Watch Rankine make Jasper Pittard look silly at SANFL level:
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/iz ... e309c53978


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757046Post DJ Higgins »

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Rozee played perhaps the best game of his season last week, a 24-disposal and 10-mark effort for North Adelaide's senior SANFL side. It was a standout display that highlighted his skills: he moved swiftly across half-back, created play with his disposals, was strong and clever in the air and he made things happen
He sounds good but do we need another player who plays off Half-back?

Watch Rankine make Jasper Pittard look silly at SANFL level:
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/iz ... e309c53978
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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757050Post BenLong#21 »

We dont have a 2nd or 3rd round pick anyway.


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757053Post desertsaint »

BenLong#21 wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 6:32pm
desertsaint wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 5:18pm who really has a clue. it's a lottery, and we aint lucky. may as well roll a die.
Is it a lottery?
If so why do all 18 clubs bother to hire and pay for recruiting staff?
Why not just read the phantom drafts published online and follow those?
the same ones that had mccartin as the best or second best prospect in the land? Or Watts? Boyd? Swallow? Patton? etc etc.
the clubs hire recruiters to cut down the odds of drafting a turkey. but the history books show they hardly ever identify the best prospect. too many variables at play. which is why some clubs run this silly psych test, hoping to eliminate one variable - trouble is, it's also a very inexact science prone to too much subjectivity.
look at this years rising star. the three standouts went 6, 17, and 23.
in its history only 6 winners of 26 have come from top five draft picks, and 2 from the mini draft.


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Post: # 1757063Post ausfatcat »

BenLong#21 wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 4:09pm
I am working on the theory May leaves and GC get 2, 3 & 4.
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May would have to be traded for he is not a free agent so GS wont get pick 4 unless we give it to them


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757065Post Teflon »

Rankine please
Pace and class with goal scoring power we need all of them
We’ll pick king with dodgy knee no doubt....


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Post: # 1757088Post Hemi Baxter »

Rankine won’t be there at pick 4. He’ll be Gold Coast’s first selection.
If we want to avoid taking a risk then how about not selecting a tall guy with a serious knee injury whose been playing under-age footy opposed to (a limted number) of smaller players in a zone system comp and who is not a great set shot.


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Post: # 1757100Post chico2001 »

Although it is a bit early you have to judge the recruiters on last years picks clarke and Coffield, the recruiter had all the time in the world to pick correctly and if one of those turns out to be a very good player then they have done their job. If that does not happen then some of the saints recruiting will go down as the worst in VFL/AFL history regardless of who they pick this year. Can someone name the current head recruiter?


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757104Post bigred »

Isn't Rankine the one that Adelaide are gagging to get?

What chance of actually hanging onto him for more than two years?


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Post: # 1757105Post Impatient Sainter »

chico2001 wrote: Mon 17 Sep 2018 9:49am Although it is a bit early you have to judge the recruiters on last years picks clarke and Coffield, the recruiter had all the time in the world to pick correctly and if one of those turns out to be a very good player then they have done their job. If that does not happen then some of the saints recruiting will go down as the worst in VFL/AFL history regardless of who they pick this year. Can someone name the current head recruiter?
Chris Libratore and IMO he did a good job last year. Hunter, Coffield and Paton all look like good selections with a big future.


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Re: Draft: Rankine v Rozee v Smith v King

Post: # 1757108Post kosifantutti »

derby Street wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 9:23pm
kosifantutti wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 7:38pm
derby Street wrote:What is unexplained is why we traded away our 2nd & 3rd picks in what is widely regarded as 2018 being a strong draft. Not sure what we have to trade without throwing the baby out with the bath water.
I don’t know how anyone can say it’s a strong draft. 18 year olds play against other 18 year olds. They might look good now, but what happens when they play against men?

And how well does this “strong draft” extend to picks in the 2nd and 3rd round?
A few of the South Australian lads played regularly against men (and did well) and the SA U 18 team were a clear standout.
I still can't see how that relates to 2nd and 3rd round picks being any better than they were in previous drafts.
I can understand a few outliers, but Mathematics would tell you that it's unlikely that pick 20 - 25 is likely to be significantly better this year than last.


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Post: # 1757114Post prwilkinson »

Rankine looks like absolute class. Amazing hands for his size too.


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Post: # 1757117Post Hemi Baxter »

Impatient Sainter wrote: Mon 17 Sep 2018 11:08am
chico2001 wrote: Mon 17 Sep 2018 9:49am Although it is a bit early you have to judge the recruiters on last years picks clarke and Coffield, the recruiter had all the time in the world to pick correctly and if one of those turns out to be a very good player then they have done their job. If that does not happen then some of the saints recruiting will go down as the worst in VFL/AFL history regardless of who they pick this year. Can someone name the current head recruiter?
Chris Libratore and IMO he did a good job last year. Hunter, Coffield and Paton all look like good selections with a big future.
Clavarino?


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Post: # 1757129Post saint-stu »

prwilkinson wrote:Rankine looks like absolute class. Amazing hands for his size too.
In the Vic vs SA highlights he seemed to turn it over a lot by foot. I will be happy with Smith I think.


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Post: # 1757135Post DJ Higgins »

saint-stu wrote: Mon 17 Sep 2018 12:49pm
prwilkinson wrote:Rankine looks like absolute class. Amazing hands for his size too.
In the Vic vs SA highlights he seemed to turn it over a lot by foot. I will be happy with Smith I think.
I think Smith is an inside mid which will do not need especially with Dan coming on board, we need either a ruckman (none in top 5 contention) an outside mid with speed to burn (Walsh but no chance to get him) or a speedy forward that may transition into the mids (Rankine). So our recruiters will get Max King, I can just feel it.


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Post: # 1757152Post prwilkinson »

If we take King (would love to somehow get both) does that pretty much mean it’s time to move Paddy on for more opportunities elsewhere?


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Post: # 1757174Post St Greco »

Depending on who is available I feel that GC will go for Lukosius and Rozee ( both from SA) or both King brothers. To help reduce the go home factor.
It will depend on who Carlton select.


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Post: # 1757189Post Jimmy O'Dea »

Tom Atkins for me as we need a quality bull mid and you can pick him up as a very late pick. Don't expect our recruiters to be ahead of the pack though!


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Post: # 1757190Post wally »

If its a toss up I'd go with local (vic) opposed to interstate , no "go home" carryon.


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Post: # 1757192Post Scollop »

Get a fat looking kid ( like Hodgey was at 17 or Lingy or Clayton Oliver or Olly Wines from Port) that knows how to win his own footy, has a booming left or right foot kick, is elite with his skills and loves to take a contested mark.

Do some testing on their heart and if it's as big as Phar Lap and he can play more than 85% TOG and he ticks all the above criteria then sign him up


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Post: # 1757196Post tedtheodorelogan2018 »

Will be Smith or Rankine.


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