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Post: # 1756155Post Enrico_Misso »

The members survey is out.
Questions asking you to rate the onfield performance and heaps of other things relating to how our club is run.

There is plenty of hot air on this site.
But here is a chance for you to make it clear to the club how disappointed you are with the way things are going.

And if you hang in there till the last question there is the opportunity to make a comment.


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Post: # 1756406Post loris »

Enrico_Misso wrote: Tue 11 Sep 2018 11:49pm The members survey is out.
Questions asking you to rate the onfield performance and heaps of other things relating to how our club is run.

There is plenty of hot air on this site.
But here is a chance for you to make it clear to the club how disappointed you are with the way things are going.

And if you hang in there till the last question there is the opportunity to make a comment.
I think I let all my dissatisfaction and frustrated emotion at this season out in that final comments section.
It saddened me to be so brutal in my feedback to the Club, but I think having been a Sainter since the early 1950’s I have a right to ‘venture my spleen’. I tried to be objective in my criticisms, however I did let a little bit of Saints passion spill over in my comments.
Still I think that’s what we need after such a bland, disappointing year, ‘old fashioned Sainter passion’ to be re-ignited by our Board, Administration, Coaches and playing group.

As Enrico_Misso says, make sure you do the survey and fill out the comments section at the end. You only have until about 25 September to fill out the survey, so don’t put it off. I think it might be more productive doing the survey than just venting your collective spleens on this site, as I’m sure most Board members, the Administration, the coaches & players don’t read this site, or at least not religiously.


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Post: # 1756432Post Junction Oval »

Yes, a good opportunity to tell the Club how you think about their efforts. These opportunities don't come along often.

My direct emails to the Club in the past have always gone without response. At least, we know that the overall Survey results will be aired. The 64 dollar question is, will it make any difference :roll:


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Post: # 1756434Post Teflon »

Who wants to chip in for a truck load of chicken manure?
Far more effective..and they can use the leftovers to grow the weed that Richo is clearly smoking..


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Post: # 1756457Post skeptic »

Where is it?


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Post: # 1756460Post sunsaint »

skeptic wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 4:04pmWhere is it?
recvd email link to survey
I had a very short simple message regarding the future state of employment for our current coach


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Post: # 1756480Post older saint »

completed , however many loaded questions to ensure the answers they don't want to get cannot be given , for example rate performance of on field , rate performance of board and management , no question rate the performance of the coaching staff? ok to bag the players and the board but the "cone of silence " exists around the coahcing staff?


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The board are going to post the results of the survey on BF.


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Post: # 1756497Post Enrico_Misso »

loris wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 12:51pm
Enrico_Misso wrote: Tue 11 Sep 2018 11:49pm The members survey is out.
Questions asking you to rate the onfield performance and heaps of other things relating to how our club is run.

There is plenty of hot air on this site.
But here is a chance for you to make it clear to the club how disappointed you are with the way things are going.

And if you hang in there till the last question there is the opportunity to make a comment.
I think I let all my dissatisfaction and frustrated emotion at this season out in that final comments section.
It saddened me to be so brutal in my feedback to the Club, but I think having been a Sainter since the early 1950’s I have a right to ‘venture my spleen’. I tried to be objective in my criticisms, however I did let a little bit of Saints passion spill over in my comments.
Still I think that’s what we need after such a bland, disappointing year, ‘old fashioned Sainter passion’ to be re-ignited by our Board, Administration, Coaches and playing group.

As Enrico_Misso says, make sure you do the survey and fill out the comments section at the end. You only have until about 25 September to fill out the survey, so don’t put it off. I think it might be more productive doing the survey than just venting your collective spleens on this site, as I’m sure most Board members, the Administration, the coaches & players don’t read this site, or at least not religiously.
Agree this is a great chance to vent and be heard by the decision makers.

No doubt there is a lot of unhappiness out there and anyone reading this site would be aware of that.
But what REALLY IRKS me is the supporters who say they are not going to renew their membership as a protest.

If you really care about the club you will stay a loyal supporter but at the same time express your displeasure through other avenues such as emailing the club,
OR right on cue here is the feedback survey
- tell them out of 10 what you thought of the onfield experience (difficult choice between 0 or 1!)
- tell the board how you rate them
- and as per Loris you can write an essay in the final comments box (even if the President doesn't read it at least you will feel a lot better for it).

This is our BEST chance to let them know we are not happy and WANT CHANGES!!


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Post: # 1756505Post HardSaint »

I would love to read the responses to the "6 words to describe St Kilda"


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Cairnsman wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 7:45pm The board are going to post the results of the survey on BF.
They’re up!!
Apparently no issues at the club and they’re all looking forward to finals footy...


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Post: # 1756510Post Enrico_Misso »

HardSaint wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 11:20pm I would love to read the responses to the "6 words to describe St Kilda"
I went with
- past champions
- poor recruiting
- poor development
- poor coaching
- poor administration
- poor finances

Was going to work in something about the colours but no room!


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Teflon wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 11:24pm
Cairnsman wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 7:45pm The board are going to post the results of the survey on BF.
They’re up!!
Apparently no issues at the club and they’re all looking forward to finals footy...
Yeah I know, isn't great how the new Prez keeps BF updated. Best source for ITK info.


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Post: # 1756575Post Saintmatt »

My god I hope I get that survey emailed to me.


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Post: # 1756702Post Teflon »

Cairnsman wrote: Fri 14 Sep 2018 9:22am
Teflon wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 11:24pm
Cairnsman wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 7:45pm The board are going to post the results of the survey on BF.
They’re up!!
Apparently no issues at the club and they’re all looking forward to finals footy...
Yeah I know, isn't great how the new Prez keeps BF updated. Best source for ITK info.
Who needs prez updates! Our Board leaks like a sieve!!
Thank god for BF as a source of truth!


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Post: # 1756768Post Cairnsman »

Teflon wrote: Sat 15 Sep 2018 8:35am
Cairnsman wrote: Fri 14 Sep 2018 9:22am
Teflon wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 11:24pm
Cairnsman wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 7:45pm The board are going to post the results of the survey on BF.
They’re up!!
Apparently no issues at the club and they’re all looking forward to finals footy...
Yeah I know, isn't great how the new Prez keeps BF updated. Best source for ITK info.
Who needs prez updates! Our Board leaks like a sieve!!
Thank god for BF as a source of truth!
As an atheist I'm dead certain this God you speak of cannot be thanked for anything. I'm curious, when has the board leaked?


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Post: # 1756838Post thejiggingsaint »

An even better way to be heard (In my humble opinion) is for as many of our members as possible to attend the AGM. BUT rather than simply sit and listen to the same old euphemisms and double talk, to actively question the board! Ask the HARd questions and demand answers. If enough of us are there to QUESTION the directors then surely something can begin the process of positive change.


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Post: # 1756907Post Teflon »

Cairnsman wrote: Sat 15 Sep 2018 1:12pm
Teflon wrote: Sat 15 Sep 2018 8:35am
Cairnsman wrote: Fri 14 Sep 2018 9:22am
Teflon wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 11:24pm
Cairnsman wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 7:45pm The board are going to post the results of the survey on BF.
They’re up!!
Apparently no issues at the club and they’re all looking forward to finals footy...
Yeah I know, isn't great how the new Prez keeps BF updated. Best source for ITK info.
Who needs prez updates! Our Board leaks like a sieve!!
Thank god for BF as a source of truth!
As an atheist I'm dead certain this God you speak of cannot be thanked for anything. I'm curious, when has the board leaked?
It’s dissapointing you refer to BF as your source but clearly don’t read anything from there?

For gods sake di yourself a favour man!


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Teflon wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 10:16am
Cairnsman wrote: Sat 15 Sep 2018 1:12pm
Teflon wrote: Sat 15 Sep 2018 8:35am
Cairnsman wrote: Fri 14 Sep 2018 9:22am
Teflon wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 11:24pm
Cairnsman wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 7:45pm The board are going to post the results of the survey on BF.
They’re up!!
Apparently no issues at the club and they’re all looking forward to finals footy...
Yeah I know, isn't great how the new Prez keeps BF updated. Best source for ITK info.
Who needs prez updates! Our Board leaks like a sieve!!
Thank god for BF as a source of truth!
As an atheist I'm dead certain this God you speak of cannot be thanked for anything. I'm curious, when has the board leaked?
It’s dissapointing you refer to BF as your source but clearly don’t read anything from there?

For gods sake di yourself a favour man!
So the board doesn't leak but you read some posts on BF by a girl called God claiming it leaks?


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Post: # 1756928Post Sainter_Dad »

My comments:

If you are truly serious about member retention there has to be much more clarity and transparency to our decision making and the position of the board - within the reasonable bounds of business sense. But some decisions appear ridiculous and do not appear to be well thought out.

Members are feeling dis-enfranchised and we can only rely on on-field results to determine the direction of the club - and that looks like it a scattergun approach.

There does not seem to be any Game Plan
There does not seem to be any consistency of selection.
There does not seem to be any valid reason for some selections
There does not seem to be any development of players
etc, etc, etc …..


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Post: # 1757056Post Teflon »

Cairnsman wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 10:21am
Teflon wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 10:16am
Cairnsman wrote: Sat 15 Sep 2018 1:12pm
Teflon wrote: Sat 15 Sep 2018 8:35am
Cairnsman wrote: Fri 14 Sep 2018 9:22am
Teflon wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 11:24pm
Cairnsman wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 7:45pm The board are going to post the results of the survey on BF.
They’re up!!
Apparently no issues at the club and they’re all looking forward to finals footy...
Yeah I know, isn't great how the new Prez keeps BF updated. Best source for ITK info.
Who needs prez updates! Our Board leaks like a sieve!!
Thank god for BF as a source of truth!
As an atheist I'm dead certain this God you speak of cannot be thanked for anything. I'm curious, when has the board leaked?
It’s dissapointing you refer to BF as your source but clearly don’t read anything from there?

For gods sake di yourself a favour man!
So the board doesn't leak but you read some posts on BF by a girl called God claiming it leaks?
I never said the Board don’t leak .....show me where I said that.....I’d never be so naive or stupid to think that about a St Kilda Board...lol


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Post: # 1757057Post Teflon »

Sainter_Dad wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 11:47am My comments:

If you are truly serious about member retention there has to be much more clarity and transparency to our decision making and the position of the board - within the reasonable bounds of business sense. But some decisions appear ridiculous and do not appear to be well thought out.

Members are feeling dis-enfranchised and we can only rely on on-field results to determine the direction of the club - and that looks like it a scattergun approach.

There does not seem to be any Game Plan
There does not seem to be any consistency of selection.
There does not seem to be any valid reason for some selections
There does not seem to be any development of players
etc, etc, etc …..
Spot on


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Teflon wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 11:12pm
Cairnsman wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 10:21am
Teflon wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 10:16am
Cairnsman wrote: Sat 15 Sep 2018 1:12pm
Teflon wrote: Sat 15 Sep 2018 8:35am
Cairnsman wrote: Fri 14 Sep 2018 9:22am
Teflon wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 11:24pm
Cairnsman wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 7:45pm The board are going to post the results of the survey on BF.
They’re up!!
Apparently no issues at the club and they’re all looking forward to finals footy...
Yeah I know, isn't great how the new Prez keeps BF updated. Best source for ITK info.
Who needs prez updates! Our Board leaks like a sieve!!
Thank god for BF as a source of truth!
As an atheist I'm dead certain this God you speak of cannot be thanked for anything. I'm curious, when has the board leaked?
It’s dissapointing you refer to BF as your source but clearly don’t read anything from there?

For gods sake di yourself a favour man!
So the board doesn't leak but you read some posts on BF by a girl called God claiming it leaks?
I never said the Board don’t leak .....show me where I said that.....I’d never be so naive or stupid to think that about a St Kilda Board...lol
Sorry for the confusion, I agree, you claimed the board leaked and I was asking when did it leak? You didn't respond so I just assumed it didn't leak or there was no proof it leaked.


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Post: # 1757160Post Teflon »

Cairnsman wrote: Mon 17 Sep 2018 2:14pm
Teflon wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 11:12pm
Cairnsman wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 10:21am
Teflon wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 10:16am
Cairnsman wrote: Sat 15 Sep 2018 1:12pm
Teflon wrote: Sat 15 Sep 2018 8:35am
Cairnsman wrote: Fri 14 Sep 2018 9:22am
Teflon wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 11:24pm
Cairnsman wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 7:45pm The board are going to post the results of the survey on BF.
They’re up!!
Apparently no issues at the club and they’re all looking forward to finals footy...
Yeah I know, isn't great how the new Prez keeps BF updated. Best source for ITK info.
Who needs prez updates! Our Board leaks like a sieve!!
Thank god for BF as a source of truth!
As an atheist I'm dead certain this God you speak of cannot be thanked for anything. I'm curious, when has the board leaked?
It’s dissapointing you refer to BF as your source but clearly don’t read anything from there?

For gods sake di yourself a favour man!
So the board doesn't leak but you read some posts on BF by a girl called God claiming it leaks?
I never said the Board don’t leak .....show me where I said that.....I’d never be so naive or stupid to think that about a St Kilda Board...lol
Sorry for the confusion, I agree, you claimed the board leaked and I was asking when did it leak? You didn't respond so I just assumed it didn't leak or there was no proof it leaked.
No I said I didn’t say it didn’t leak
Never mentioned anything about providing you proof - that’s your detective work Cludo
I don’t need to go out in the rain to work out it’s wet ...but each to their own I guess...


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Teflon wrote: Mon 17 Sep 2018 2:34pm
Cairnsman wrote: Mon 17 Sep 2018 2:14pm
Teflon wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 11:12pm
Cairnsman wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 10:21am
Teflon wrote: Sun 16 Sep 2018 10:16am
Cairnsman wrote: Sat 15 Sep 2018 1:12pm
Teflon wrote: Sat 15 Sep 2018 8:35am
Cairnsman wrote: Fri 14 Sep 2018 9:22am
Teflon wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 11:24pm
Cairnsman wrote: Thu 13 Sep 2018 7:45pm The board are going to post the results of the survey on BF.
They’re up!!
Apparently no issues at the club and they’re all looking forward to finals footy...
Yeah I know, isn't great how the new Prez keeps BF updated. Best source for ITK info.
Who needs prez updates! Our Board leaks like a sieve!!
Thank god for BF as a source of truth!
As an atheist I'm dead certain this God you speak of cannot be thanked for anything. I'm curious, when has the board leaked?
It’s dissapointing you refer to BF as your source but clearly don’t read anything from there?

For gods sake di yourself a favour man!
So the board doesn't leak but you read some posts on BF by a girl called God claiming it leaks?
I never said the Board don’t leak .....show me where I said that.....I’d never be so naive or stupid to think that about a St Kilda Board...lol
Sorry for the confusion, I agree, you claimed the board leaked and I was asking when did it leak? You didn't respond so I just assumed it didn't leak or there was no proof it leaked.
No I said I didn’t say it didn’t leak
Never mentioned anything about providing you proof - that’s your detective work Cludo
I don’t need to go out in the rain to work out it’s wet ...but each to their own I guess...
Hang on let's see if I'm following this correctly, so you claim the board leaks like a sieve, a fairly bold claim in magnitude by definition. I say I'm curious becuase I don't recall this current board leaking once, so I ask you for some background to support the claim. Just trying to keep it real Teffers.


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