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GWS- our Outlier?

Post: # 1743820Post saintsRrising »

Most teams seem to have an opponent where logic does not come into the match result.

Recently with the Saints this seems to have been GWS despite their having a clear edge in talent.

Last game:
Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Final
St Kilda 2.2 5.8 6.12 10.13 73
GWS 2.5 4.9 7.15 9.19 73

Last year:
Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Final
St Kilda 2.4 6.7 10.9 16.12 108
GWS 4.2 7.6 11.10 12.13 85

So I look forward to this weeks game with a tad more optimism (well I am a life long St Kilda tragic after all!) than I might otherwise despite GWS's recent return to good form.

Personally I think it is because GWS tend to play a touch too arrogantly and over rely on skill rather than also discipline. This gives us a chance with our gameplan style, and also as they do not pressure us as much as they should it also tends to mean that our players do not cough up the ball as much as they are prone to.

This week I am hoping that GWS can role out their best prima donna style and thereby give our guys an opening.


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Re: GWS- our Outlier?

Post: # 1743823Post Scollop »

Did you see them play yesterday?


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Re: GWS- our Outlier?

Post: # 1743825Post saintsRrising »

Scollop wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 1:22pm Did you see them play yesterday?

Note my comments on ignoring logic and being a St Kilda tragic :wink:

Just hoping for a competitive game....
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Re: GWS- our Outlier?

Post: # 1743829Post Con Gorozidis »

Maybe analyse the timing of those games.
Everybody was beating GWS early this year.
Could be just dumb luck on timing.

Let's see how we go this week.


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I hear the Sydney Hellfire Club is moving to Bankstown this Saturday arvo. Should be a floggimg of monumental proportions.


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Con Gorozidis wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 1:48pm Maybe analyse the timing of those games.
Everybody was beating GWS early this year.
Could be just dumb luck on timing.

Let's see how we go this week.
GWS were in awesome form when we beat them last year.


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Post: # 1743876Post bigcarl »

On weekend form they will smash us. I see them as a premiership threat and they will see us as four points for the taking.


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Post: # 1743885Post desertsaint »

maybe have a look at where it is. we match them at etihad, like every other team when they're outside nsw. at spotless we'll get well beaten. as we did last time we played there


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Post: # 1743894Post Yorkeys »

How are we going to kick more goals than Toby Green?


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Linton Lodger wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 2:38pm
Con Gorozidis wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 1:48pm Maybe analyse the timing of those games.
Everybody was beating GWS early this year.
Could be just dumb luck on timing.

Let's see how we go this week.
GWS were in awesome form when we beat them last year.
Lie!

They won by just 3, 3 & 8 points in the games after losing to us. In rd 12 they lost to Carlton!

Hardly 'awesome'.


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Linton Lodger wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 2:38pm
Con Gorozidis wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 1:48pm Maybe analyse the timing of those games.
Everybody was beating GWS early this year.
Could be just dumb luck on timing.

Let's see how we go this week.
GWS were in awesome form when we beat them last year.
Lie!

They won by just 3, 3 & 8 points in the games after losing to us in 2017. In rd 12 they lost to Carlton!

Hardly 'awesome'.


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Post: # 1743992Post Devilhead »

We are a danger game for them - coming back from interstate, 2 less days recovery and us coming off a bad loss with something to prove

Still can't see us winning though


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Devilhead wrote: Tue 24 Jul 2018 12:14am We are a danger game for them - coming back from interstate, 2 less days recovery and us coming off a bad loss with something to prove

Still can't see us winning though
What do we have to prove ?


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Post: # 1744000Post Devilhead »

Con Gorozidis wrote: Tue 24 Jul 2018 12:28am
Devilhead wrote: Tue 24 Jul 2018 12:14am We are a danger game for them - coming back from interstate, 2 less days recovery and us coming off a bad loss with something to prove

Still can't see us winning though
What do we have to prove ?
Short term memory loss is not a joke Con

You should see a Doctor immediately!


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Con Gorozidis wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 11:47pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 2:38pm
Con Gorozidis wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 1:48pm Maybe analyse the timing of those games.
Everybody was beating GWS early this year.
Could be just dumb luck on timing.

Let's see how we go this week.
GWS were in awesome form when we beat them last year.
Lie!

They won by just 3, 3 & 8 points in the games after losing to us in 2017. In rd 12 they lost to Carlton!

Hardly 'awesome'.
The Carlton game was six weeks later. They were coming off five in a row and won the next four.


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Con Gorozidis wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 11:47pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 2:38pm
Con Gorozidis wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 1:48pm Maybe analyse the timing of those games.
Everybody was beating GWS early this year.
Could be just dumb luck on timing.

Let's see how we go this week.
GWS were in awesome form when we beat them last year.
Lie!

They won by just 3, 3 & 8 points in the games after losing to us in 2017. In rd 12 they lost to Carlton!

Hardly 'awesome'.
We played them R7 and they were top or at least close to it. Then they got a truckload of injuries.


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Post: # 1744020Post Cairnsman »

5 games to go and that's making me a little sad, there are only 2 seasons IMO, footy season, and the other season.

Although the year hasn't gone so well I still love the game and our team, we're at different ends of the ladder but I'm looking forward to this weeks game because I think we will give em a run for their money. It's been this way for so long now I know no other way.

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Linton Lodger wrote: Tue 24 Jul 2018 8:49am
Con Gorozidis wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 11:47pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 2:38pm
Con Gorozidis wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 1:48pm Maybe analyse the timing of those games.
Everybody was beating GWS early this year.
Could be just dumb luck on timing.

Let's see how we go this week.
GWS were in awesome form when we beat them last year.
Lie!

They won by just 3, 3 & 8 points in the games after losing to us in 2017. In rd 12 they lost to Carlton!

Hardly 'awesome'.
We played them R7 and they were top or at least close to it. Then they got a truckload of injuries.
So now after being called out for BS you change your story to this year?

Then you double down on BS.

We played them in Rd 5 actually.

They got thrashed in Rd 7,8,9 and 10.


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Post: # 1744057Post Con Gorozidis »

Let's see how this week pans out.

If we win you can run nose it

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Con Gorozidis wrote: Tue 24 Jul 2018 1:29pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Tue 24 Jul 2018 8:49am
Con Gorozidis wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 11:47pm
Linton Lodger wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 2:38pm
Con Gorozidis wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 1:48pm Maybe analyse the timing of those games.
Everybody was beating GWS early this year.
Could be just dumb luck on timing.

Let's see how we go this week.
GWS were in awesome form when we beat them last year.
Lie!

They won by just 3, 3 & 8 points in the games after losing to us in 2017. In rd 12 they lost to Carlton!

Hardly 'awesome'.
We played them R7 and they were top or at least close to it. Then they got a truckload of injuries.
So now after being called out for BS you change your story to this year?

Then you double down on BS.

We played them in Rd 5 actually.

They got thrashed in Rd 7,8,9 and 10.
No, we played them R7 last year and that's what I was talking about.

From my earlier post: "GWS were in awesome form when we beat them last year"

They'd won their previous five in a row and then won their next 4 in succession (including Richmond & WCE in Perth) after we beat them. They subsequently had an upset loss to Carlton and then were undefeated for the subsequent 3 games before an enormous number of injuries finally slowed them down.

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Cairnsman wrote: Tue 24 Jul 2018 9:45am 5 games to go and that's making me a little sad, there are only 2 seasons IMO, footy season, and the other season.

Although the year hasn't gone so well I still love the game and our team, we're at different ends of the ladder but I'm looking forward to this weeks game because I think we will give em a run for their money. It's been this way for so long now I know no other way.

GO SAINTS!!!!! :lol:
I used to be a lot like you CM - I just find myself liking the games less (congestion, blowouts, our shite team, Richo's dribbling media performances) to the point where I often turn off or do something else with it on in the background. Our team is a hard one though - the players are all crazy brave and have a crack but I just cannot cop the beige irrelevance that our coaching team, administration and board have made us.

And to make matters worse - we'll get out butts kicked by India at home this Summer :(


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Saintmatt wrote: Tue 24 Jul 2018 3:30pm
Cairnsman wrote: Tue 24 Jul 2018 9:45am 5 games to go and that's making me a little sad, there are only 2 seasons IMO, footy season, and the other season.

Although the year hasn't gone so well I still love the game and our team, we're at different ends of the ladder but I'm looking forward to this weeks game because I think we will give em a run for their money. It's been this way for so long now I know no other way.

GO SAINTS!!!!! :lol:
I used to be a lot like you CM - I just find myself liking the games less (congestion, blowouts, our shite team, Richo's dribbling media performances) to the point where I often turn off or do something else with it on in the background. Our team is a hard one though - the players are all crazy brave and have a crack but I just cannot cop the beige irrelevance that our coaching team, administration and board have made us.

And to make matters worse - we'll get out butts kicked by India at home this Summer :(
Hang tough Matty, I know there are wildly varying opinions about our future prospects but I'm choosing to believe that his year was the recession we had to have, in Keating parlance that is, anyway essentially that means I'm willing to be patient for one more season to test my fan based observations about why I think the club has struggled this season.

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Be a big effort to beat GWS this week. They are in good form and appear to have knuckled down. Saints side is one of the weakest I have ever seen. Hoping Battle and Marshall have good games. Not sure if GWS have a match for Gresh, same as we dont have one for Greene.


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Yorkeys wrote: Mon 23 Jul 2018 6:15pm How are we going to kick more goals than Toby Green?
Quick bring in McCartin, he is good on one leg and can kick a mile if he wears a moon boot.


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Cairnsman wrote: Tue 24 Jul 2018 3:51pm
Fortius Quo Fidelius, which is Latin for, there is always next year.
pretty sure it's latin for forever to flounder


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