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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby SydneySainter » Sun 22 Oct 2017 11:03am

I agree that whoever the club wants, target now!

But, seeing as there was a swag of very good/elite players either available or at least potentially available this year and we could barely nab dust either via free agency or a trade (despite our available cap space and having two top ten draft picks), it's crucial we have a more successful 2018 season, play finals and prove to the rest of the competition that we're a club worth playing for.

We're clearly not on the player radar as a "destination" club and I fear that Sloane being a Saints fan in the past may count for little. We've had a red hot crack at him in the past and he still re-signed with the Crows.
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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby Drake Huggins » Sun 22 Oct 2017 11:39am

The pressure will be on Wayne Hughes, now. His role is to identify, target and try to attract players who are either out of contract, FAs, or "gettable" as they say in the industry. This year was a bit of a bust in that regard. Then again, maybe we didn't want what was on offer. I'd imagine he had the likes of Haynes, Tomlinson and Smith on the radar, but for one reason or another, we just couldn't get it done.
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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby saintsRrising » Sun 22 Oct 2017 11:50am

SydneySainter wrote:I agree that whoever the club wants, target now!

But, seeing as there was a swag of very good/elite players either available or at least potentially available this year and we could barely nab dust either via free agency or a trade (despite our available cap space and having two top ten draft picks), it's crucial we have a more successful 2018 season, play finals and prove to the rest of the competition that we're a club worth playing for.

We're clearly not on the player radar as a "destination" club and I fear that Sloane being a Saints fan in the past may count for little. We've had a red hot crack at him in the past and he still re-signed with the Crows.



I would tend to think that if we want a star from another club that we are more likely to be able to gain a player whose contract is ending rather than a star who will be a FA as the link I posted has very few free agents who would make a significant difference to our list.

So that means trading like Dees have done with Lever.



FA

FA I think will be more likely to be achievable for a useful rather than star player.

Lynch I doubt would choose us

By the first game of 2019 Sloane will 29 and Gaff almost 27.

So to gain Sloane for 2019 you would need to believe that you are a contender in 2019. So how well our youth improves in 2018, and how well we select with our Picks 7 and 8, will be crucial in determining whether gaining Sloane would still be a good get or not. If we are looking a potential Grand Finalist then yes Sloane may be that extra edge to help get us there.

Gaff is not as good, but his playing window is probably longer as he is 2 years and 3 months younger, plus will probably be more gettable as less clubs are likely to target him that Sloane.
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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby CarlD » Sun 22 Oct 2017 11:57am

Given what the AFL did with the Motlop compensation you could be forgiven for thinking that they will "work their magic" in an effort to keep Tom Lynch at the Gold Coast. Having had Ablett go the AFL can't really afford to have their other marque player depart as well at this stage when GC have the wobbles up.
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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby Linton Lodger » Sun 22 Oct 2017 12:14pm

Sloane will be too old, Libratore is the pick of that bunch by a mile.
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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby saynta » Sun 22 Oct 2017 4:02pm

Drake Huggins wrote:The pressure will be on Wayne Hughes, now. His role is to identify, target and try to attract players who are either out of contract, FAs, or "gettable" as they say in the industry. This year was a bit of a bust in that regard. Then again, maybe we didn't want what was on offer. I'd imagine he had the likes of Haynes, Tomlinson and Smith on the radar, but for one reason or another, we just couldn't get it done.



Finish in the finals next year playing out of Moorabbin and it all will suddenly get much easier to attract real talent.
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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby Drake Huggins » Sun 22 Oct 2017 4:11pm

saynta wrote:
Drake Huggins wrote:The pressure will be on Wayne Hughes, now. His role is to identify, target and try to attract players who are either out of contract, FAs, or "gettable" as they say in the industry. This year was a bit of a bust in that regard. Then again, maybe we didn't want what was on offer. I'd imagine he had the likes of Haynes, Tomlinson and Smith on the radar, but for one reason or another, we just couldn't get it done.



Finish in the finals next year playing out of Moorabbin and it all will suddenly get much easier to attract real talent.


Posted that elsewhere, saynta. I think we may have underestimated the potential effects returning to our true home. From memberships to attracting sponsors and talent, I think it will provide a huge boost for the club.
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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby skeptic » Sun 22 Oct 2017 4:29pm

Where has it been suggested that we could be playing games out of Moorabbin?
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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby saint6709 » Tue 24 Oct 2017 9:00pm

skeptic wrote:Where has it been suggested that we could be playing games out of Moorabbin?


I think we will be playing all of our games out of Moorabbin - I think we will soon be training in Moorabbin - which is what I think the previous poster was alluding to
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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby supersaints » Thu 26 Oct 2017 6:46am

For ALL the posters who think Slone will be too old if we get him next year, yet they wanted him badly this year need to realize that he would still be the same age regardless of which club he is at!

So unless you all believe our window was / is only open for one year (2018) then I would like an explanation from one of you... please

I honestly can't see your logic, and I'm very happy you Gurus don't work in our recruiting department.. because you have absolutely no one idea
He was either too old or not regardless??
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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby magnifisaint » Thu 26 Oct 2017 7:51am

supersaints wrote:For ALL the posters who think Slone will be too old if we get him next year, yet they wanted him badly this year need to realize that he would still be the same age regardless of which club he is at!

So unless you all believe our window was / is only open for one year (2018) then I would like an explanation from one of you... please

I honestly can't see your logic, and I'm very happy you Gurus don't work in our recruiting department.. because you have absolutely no one idea
He was either too old or not regardless??

Adelaide won't need Sloane next year with Gibbs there. I can see Sloane leaving and Tex's huge roll of the eyes when he announces it. He'd be wondering why no one wants to play with him.
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Postby the dome » Thu 26 Oct 2017 8:51am

Saintsrising unfortunately I think you are right when you said "Lynch I doubt would choose us".
& exactly at this crossroads the advantages continue falling the way of the likes of the dons & pies far too often.
Even with the pies being as ordinary as they've been of late they still enjoy the added bonus of the 'new' clubs
regularly dropping highly skilled young players into their laps when the glut of riches becomes too much to hold onto.
This happy dependency enjoyed by the pies for instance has become another pillar of unfair/ unnecessary advantage & when added to sweet stadium deals unlike (St.K; Dogs; Roos) it equals another leg up & then up again.
To me this is simply a bad overall plan.
Hope it ends sometime soon.

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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby prwilkinson » Fri 03 Nov 2017 12:29pm

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/r ... zduf1.html

Rory has put off contact talks with the Crows. Unrestricted Free Agent. He'd be turning 29 at the start of the 2019 season. See what happens I guess.
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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby parkeysainter » Fri 03 Nov 2017 1:07pm

He would be worth having on our list for 4-5 years. Will add strong leadership and expierence to the list plus he's a gun. Maybe he will choose a fairytale finish to his career back in Melbourne with his boyhood team.
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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby Drake Huggins » Sat 04 Nov 2017 3:58pm

saint6709 wrote:
skeptic wrote:Where has it been suggested that we could be playing games out of Moorabbin?


I think we will be playing all of our games out of Moorabbin - I think we will soon be training in Moorabbin - which is what I think the previous poster was alluding to


That's what I was referring to, saint6709. Training and being based in Moorabbin will be a huge bonus. I don't think people realise what a negative impact basing ourselves in that shyte tip in Seaford had on the club. It was a symbol of our growing irrelevance as a club. Being back at Moorabbin will help enormously in all the areas I previously mentioned.
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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby Con Gorozidis » Sun 05 Nov 2017 1:42pm

I think Gaff is the one we should be chasing hard.
Younger. Ex local boy. Eagles possibly on the way down and rebuilding.
More gettable imo.
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Re: 2018 Free Agents

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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby DJ Higgins » Fri 29 Dec 2017 10:33pm

I don't put any faith in free agents this far out.
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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby Con Gorozidis » Sat 30 Dec 2017 1:52am

saint6709 wrote:
skeptic wrote:Where has it been suggested that we could be playing games out of Moorabbin?


I think we will be playing all of our games out of Moorabbin - I think we will soon be training in Moorabbin - which is what I think the previous poster was alluding to


Get real.

FFS.

The amount of s*** spoken here is ridiculous.

And when I call it out I get bagged for being 'negative'. Apparently being a true Sainter means believing a heap of bulls***? Is being a moron or a liar a pre-requisite?

Jesus Christ. There IS NOOOOOOOO suggestion we will play any games at Moorabbin.

We just signed a new deal at Etihad. FFS.

Stop lying.

Do you own property there or are you just plain dumb?

Mods need to stop focussing on me and start focussing on clear bullshitters.
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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby Con Gorozidis » Sat 30 Dec 2017 1:57am

Drake Huggins wrote:
saint6709 wrote:
skeptic wrote:Where has it been suggested that we could be playing games out of Moorabbin?


I think we will be playing all of our games out of Moorabbin - I think we will soon be training in Moorabbin - which is what I think the previous poster was alluding to


That's what I was referring to, saint6709. Training and being based in Moorabbin will be a huge bonus. I don't think people realise what a negative impact basing ourselves in that shyte tip in Seaford had on the club. It was a symbol of our growing irrelevance as a club. Being back at Moorabbin will help enormously in all the areas I previously mentioned.


Seaford was a disgusting decision.
Moorabbin is an improvment but nothing on what the Junction could have been.

Any suggestion we will play actual AFL games at Moorabbin is complete horse s***.
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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby Con Gorozidis » Sat 30 Dec 2017 2:00am

parkeysainter wrote:He would be worth having on our list for 4-5 years. Will add strong leadership and expierence to the list plus he's a gun. Maybe he will choose a fairytale finish to his career back in Melbourne with his boyhood team.


Like Josh Kelly?

And Michael Hurley?

And Dyson Heppel?

And Dustin Martin?

Seriously. These are professional sportsmen. Forget the 'childhood dream' crap.

Should Lenny Hayes have played for the Swans??? According to you he should have.
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Re: 2018 Free Agents

Postby parkeysainter » Sun 31 Dec 2017 12:05pm

Why do you constantly drag up old posts Con? You are just s*** stirring of course and causing issues with other posters.

Looking at the time and date of your 3 ridiculous and swear laden rants prior to mine, you had probably had a gutful!!!
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