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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby stonecold » Tue 30 May 2017 5:00pm

What about the thread with same name????? Does that get locked for two weeks and the poster banned?????
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby Sainternist » Tue 30 May 2017 7:03pm

kosifantutti wrote:
Sainternist wrote:Hope we don't lose against Adelaide, otherwise CW will be back right after the weekend with a vengeance, posting about how the sky is falling, we should have drafted Petracca instead of McCartin, Rooey and Joey should retire and yada, yada, yada.

Is it two weeks or two matches? We should take our lead from the MRP.


A concur, Kosi. A two match suspension seems more in order for ol' CityWest!
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby saintspremiers » Tue 30 May 2017 8:03pm

Sainternist wrote:
kosifantutti wrote:
Sainternist wrote:Hope we don't lose against Adelaide, otherwise CW will be back right after the weekend with a vengeance, posting about how the sky is falling, we should have drafted Petracca instead of McCartin, Rooey and Joey should retire and yada, yada, yada.

Is it two weeks or two matches? We should take our lead from the MRP.


A concur, Kosi. A two match suspension seems more in order for ol' CityWest!


Now that CW is officially on the watchlist with the current suspension, based on previous form it should sort itself out fairly quickly regardless
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby saynta » Tue 30 May 2017 8:03pm

saintspremiers wrote:I assume this is the first time CW has been banned from the forum?
Under that name? Or Nexus helen?
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby BigMart » Tue 30 May 2017 10:16pm

I think it's piss poor form

It's a forum, opinions are welcome, even contrary ones

When we start telling people what they are allowed to think and say... it's an unhealthy situation
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby stonecold » Tue 30 May 2017 10:19pm

BigMart wrote:I think it's piss poor form

It's a forum, opinions are welcome, even contrary ones

When we start telling people what they are allowed to think and say... it's an unhealthy situation


So open slather, you think?????
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby WellardSaint » Tue 30 May 2017 10:34pm

BigMart wrote:I think it's piss poor form

It's a forum, opinions are welcome, even contrary ones

When we start telling people what they are allowed to think and say... it's an unhealthy situation


If they were sitting near you at the footy, shouting those type of comments, folks would tell em to cut it out.

Here, if they don't pull their heads in...
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby BigMart » Tue 30 May 2017 10:40pm

Open slather about footy, absolutely!

You get personal... if it becomes off the topic of StK in an offensive way

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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby ausfatcat » Tue 30 May 2017 10:41pm

Bigmart there is a difference between having a genuine opinion (such as yourself, even thou I don't agree with some things you say), and posting remarks and having signatures not to designed to generate discussion or thoughts but to deliberately provoke negative responses and reactions, a deliberate attempt to upset people. This is what citywest, nexus, helen, nexushelen has done for years and never been pulled up by it and thou I am not a avid poster as I once was many years ago, I have always been very confused by the mods not banning citywest where basically all his/her posts are design to annoy and illicit negative responses from people. Go check his posts for anything that is positive ever!

I think the lack of action until now comes from a lack of ability to fully see someone's intentions through words typed on a computer screen, and that is the heart of the problem.

Intentions of a posts are very important. If the intent of a post is to purely to annoy or anger people imo shouldn't be welcomed here (even if it contains truth) and is the main reason I (and I suspect many others) have not actively posted in many years.

I fully believe citywest's posts only intentions are to annoy and make people angry and more than likely doesn't fully believe much of the content of his/her posts, but just looking for that reaction from people (rather than a response) that is the definition of a troll. That doesn't mean someone cannot post something that the majority doesn't agree with in the interest of venting there frustration or generating a discussion of a issue, I whole heartedly welcome that.

A good case study is the difference between your posts Bigmart and Citywests, I don't agree with a lot of things you post about but it is clear you say them through measured thought (well mostly) and they are posted in concern and or seeking feedback and discussion, they may illicit anger ect but that is not their intention, they are intended to inform and discuss your point of view.. Where as Citywest just wants to set the world and see people get upset and react to his posts on fire and then lap up the flames of anger it inspires.

I welcome your opinion Bigmart, I do not welcome citywest's vile rhetoric that is only posted to anger people.

But I could just be on holidays and just returned back home from the pub and make no sense what so ever (and at the very least spelling atrociously) and my post is intended to express my true opinion and generate discussion not to deliberately anger anyone.


edit: should never be personal only footy.
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby BigMart » Tue 30 May 2017 10:51pm

People can choose to ignore comments if they don't wish to entertain the ideas or respect the ideas put forward.

I barely remember anything CW posts, particularly if I think it's ridiculous

Sometimes I agree with him, generally not

But, he has the same right as me to give an opinion... who am I to silence it, or more to the point want it silenced!

I don't muzzle or dismiss people, unless they are abusive in a personal way
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby ausfatcat » Tue 30 May 2017 10:55pm

BigMart wrote:But, he has the same right as me to give an opinion...


That's the crux of it, isn't it?

Is it his opinion?

or is it a post that is designed not to express his/her opinion but a post designed to garner a negative response from people just to see people get upset because that is what he enjoys doing?

I want opinion even if I hate it, I don't want trolls, and imo Citywest has always been and will always be a troll, he would still manage to post something negative and inflammatory if we won 20 premierships in a row.


Anther example of this difference in behaviour from yourself and cityWest is you came to this thread and said you didn't agree and why this is welcomed, citywest would have come in and posted CITYWEST FOR MODERATOR.
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby Jacks Back » Tue 30 May 2017 11:04pm

stonecold wrote:What about the thread with same name????? Does that get locked for two weeks and the poster banned?????

The OP on that thread was about the Sydney game and that it was a mistake not going in with another tall forward like Bruce (not that Paddy was not a good pick or whatever). It then degenerated from their but the thread was not supposed to be about the value (or otherwise) of Paddy. Have a look.
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby BigMart » Tue 30 May 2017 11:08pm

Couple of points

We haven't won 20 prems, just one. Criticism unfortunately is often warranted. I know we don't like that harsh reality, but a fact, we are unsuccessful.

Trolling is just a criticism that's not accepted imo
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby ausfatcat » Tue 30 May 2017 11:17pm

Trolling is not unwanted criticism, it is posting to illicit a negative response and nothing but a negative response, criticism is a discussion, vent frustration and find a solution, a big difference. The 20 prems was just a example of a what if case in terms of a trolls behaviour not a reflection of reality.

This is criticism btw a trolling response would have been "your wrong bigmart and have always been wrong and will always will be wrong". (intended as a example to garner a response, not a reflection of my opinion).
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby Saint_J » Wed 31 May 2017 1:36am

well, enjoy the break <edited by mods>.....

He/she never seems to have the same troll factor on BF... if they're not a saints fan what a sad life coming in here stirring the pot.
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby kosifantutti » Wed 31 May 2017 7:32am

BigMart wrote:Couple of points

We haven't won 20 prems, just one. Criticism unfortunately is often warranted. I know we don't like that harsh reality, but a fact, we are unsuccessful.

Trolling is just a criticism that's not accepted imo

Now this is quality trolling. At least five teams a week you bring up our history as a justification for your criticism of the club.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I reckon most here are familiar with our history so I'm not sure of your purpose other than to troll.
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby SaintPav » Wed 31 May 2017 8:26am

BigMart wrote:People can choose to ignore comments if they don't wish to entertain the ideas or respect the ideas put forward.

I barely remember anything CW posts, particularly if I think it's ridiculous

Sometimes I agree with him, generally not

But, he has the same right as me to give an opinion... who am I to silence it, or more to the point want it silenced!

I don't muzzle or dismiss people, unless they are abusive in a personal way


Yeah, but that's you.

You need to accept that others don't particularly like it much.

CityWest wasn't disciplined enough to follow his true and tried MO of just saying enough to incite without "technically" breaking forum rules. He knows what he is exactly doing and it is obvious but to a few.

BTW. I think everyone on here knows we haven't won 20 premierships.
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby stonecold » Wed 31 May 2017 9:46am

BigMart wrote:Open slather about footy, absolutely!

You get personal... if it becomes off the topic of StK in an offensive way

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So, your saying you never get personal, is that what your saying Marto?????
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby MCG-Unit » Wed 31 May 2017 5:02pm

SaintPav wrote:
BigMart wrote:People can choose to ignore comments if they don't wish to entertain the ideas or respect the ideas put forward.

I barely remember anything CW posts, particularly if I think it's ridiculous

Sometimes I agree with him, generally not

But, he has the same right as me to give an opinion... who am I to silence it, or more to the point want it silenced!

I don't muzzle or dismiss people, unless they are abusive in a personal way


Yeah, but that's you.

You need to accept that others don't particularly like it much.

CityWest wasn't disciplined enough to follow his/her true and tried MO of just saying enough to incite without "technically" breaking forum rules. He/she knows what she is exactly doing and it is obvious but to a few.

BTW. I think everyone on here knows we haven't won 20 premierships.


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Robust discussion ok - but trolling/baiting/frauds - out of order. Also likely not a Saint supporter - NeXus Helen etc
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby MCG-Unit » Wed 31 May 2017 5:08pm

asiu wrote:
skeptic wrote:Interesting that this thread is a lot less heated then other recent banned/suspended threads...

Go figure right


Yep.
... no one gives a rats.

CRS shoulda been exited weeks ago imo.
CW's stuff was toolybird behaviour ... had the nods backn him in and he still walked the carpet with mud on his boots

the Plugger thing is all a bit sad , imo
... but It is what it Is.

Back to readn


Lol at "nods" :D

Yes the P66 is quite sad innit? how many times have you changed your nic :shock:
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby WellardSaint » Wed 31 May 2017 5:13pm

After beating the Giants, Richo pumped his fist, hugged Finnis,
some of the media was reluctantly giving us some praise...
But did citywest come on here and say anything positive?
No. Never posts when we have a great win, or after the Tassy one either.
He did post once after the Giants win but it was to ask if BigFooty was hacked or not working.
Not a word about how well we did, to beat the flag favourites
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby The Fireman » Wed 31 May 2017 6:07pm

we are losing our idiots at an alarming rate :shock:
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby BigMart » Thu 01 Jun 2017 12:37am

Not a fan of censorship

It's people on a power trip generally, telling others what they are allowed to think & say... hmm...

Last I checked, this is a free country

We are allowed to have a different opinion
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby White Winmar » Thu 01 Jun 2017 8:22am

The Fireman wrote:we are losing our idiots at an alarming rate :shock:

But every time we lose an idiot, someone invents a better one! :D
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Re: CityWest 2 Week Ban

Postby Sainternist » Fri 02 Jun 2017 2:29am

WellardSaint wrote:After beating the Giants, Richo pumped his fist, hugged Finnis,
some of the media was reluctantly giving us some praise...
But did citywest come on here and say anything positive?
No. Never posts when we have a great win, or after the Tassy one either.
He did post once after the Giants win but it was to ask if BigFooty was hacked or not working.
Not a word about how well we did, to beat the flag favourites


Yep, CityWest is like herpes - he'll bob up at the worst of times.
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