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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Post: # 1662433Post ace »

jays wrote:hawkes will 100% finish bottom 5 we killed thiss deal ImageImage
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Don't forget we only got this pick because we gave up our 2016 first rounder pick 10.
If we had kept that pick we would have been picking player 12 in the 2016 draft.

So far we have got Ben Long and Josh Battle out of the deal.
Now all we have to do is implement in 2017.
If we have one of the top 5 picks we need to get one of the best 5 players.
If we get a dud all we have for our 2016 first rounder is Long & Battle.
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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Post: # 1662434Post MC Gusto »

Would be funny to swap it back for jaeger!!


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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Post: # 1662445Post saynta »

st.byron wrote:
saynta wrote:
st.byron wrote:
markp wrote:
Effectively, he could not have said no.

I remember Ball, Max, Roo crying after losing games.

Funny that you went and cried to the mods about being called a dill.. didn't you post something about school prefect types the other day?

And really sad that calling someone a dill is deemed deserving of a warning (then having it edited out like something truly vile was said).
Damned if we warn and damned if we don't. Where exactly is the line?
Agree it's a very soft warning. Agree I /we don't always get the balance exactly right. Can't please everyone.
Am very wary of giving warnings for something like calling someone a dill as it sets a pretty tight precedent. Maybe I got it wrong this time, especially as there was content after that setting out the poster's knowledge.
By the book though, it's a rule breach. By the book is not necessarily the best way to go though IMO. Context, history, humour all need to be taken into account. Happy to accept that was a very soft warning and in this case a PM to the poster would have been better.

Saintmatt, apologies.
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So, calling someone a dill is now okay.

What about calling someone a moron?

I would have thought the rules prevented any personal attack. Not so evidently.

Then u compond your error by apologising.
Like I said, can't please everyone. There will be people reading I'm guessing who feel a warning in that context was over the top and happy that I said so.
It's all about context. Calling someone a dill is hardly an earth shattering insult. But yes, it's derogatory and by the book, against the rules.
The best course of action, in hindsight, would have been to send Saintmatt a PM letting him know he'd stepped over the line and a PM to yourself letting you know that had been done. Everyone would have probably been satisfied with that and we'd move on.
Moderating, IMO, is not about just about strictly applying the rules. The post needs to be considered in context and the history of the poster needs to be considered. Sometimes, it's just a clear warning, sometimes there's grey and it's not just B&W.
In this case, on reflection, I felt I was a bit hasty and zealous. Didn't give due consideration because I did it when in a hurry. When I looked at his post and use of "dill" again, he did back it up with some decent arguments and didn't just play the man. And it was at the very soft end of the spectrum of possible insults.

The reason I backtracked is because I'm wary of setting a precedent of warning for every minor slight. Trying to find a balance with that.
Clearly, this is not my finest hour as a mod. Sorry. I'm human and vulnerable to stuffing up from time to time.

No worries mate.

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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Post: # 1662454Post Joffa Burns »

BigMart wrote:Isaac Smith is a seagull
Agree, but it is very handy to have a couple of fast seagulls on the outside who can run and break the lines come finals time. I'll happily take a seagull who gets 25 touches and kicks 3 in a GF. 8-)
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Post: # 1662455Post Con Gorozidis »

I am enjoying this thread and story unfolding :-)


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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Post: # 1662471Post st.byron »

saynta wrote:
st.byron wrote:
saynta wrote:
st.byron wrote:
markp wrote:
Effectively, he could not have said no.

I remember Ball, Max, Roo crying after losing games.

Funny that you went and cried to the mods about being called a dill.. didn't you post something about school prefect types the other day?

And really sad that calling someone a dill is deemed deserving of a warning (then having it edited out like something truly vile was said).
Damned if we warn and damned if we don't. Where exactly is the line?
Agree it's a very soft warning. Agree I /we don't always get the balance exactly right. Can't please everyone.
Am very wary of giving warnings for something like calling someone a dill as it sets a pretty tight precedent. Maybe I got it wrong this time, especially as there was content after that setting out the poster's knowledge.
By the book though, it's a rule breach. By the book is not necessarily the best way to go though IMO. Context, history, humour all need to be taken into account. Happy to accept that was a very soft warning and in this case a PM to the poster would have been better.

Saintmatt, apologies.
:roll:


So, calling someone a dill is now okay.

What about calling someone a moron?

I would have thought the rules prevented any personal attack. Not so evidently.

Then u compond your error by apologising.
Like I said, can't please everyone. There will be people reading I'm guessing who feel a warning in that context was over the top and happy that I said so.
It's all about context. Calling someone a dill is hardly an earth shattering insult. But yes, it's derogatory and by the book, against the rules.
The best course of action, in hindsight, would have been to send Saintmatt a PM letting him know he'd stepped over the line and a PM to yourself letting you know that had been done. Everyone would have probably been satisfied with that and we'd move on.
Moderating, IMO, is not about just about strictly applying the rules. The post needs to be considered in context and the history of the poster needs to be considered. Sometimes, it's just a clear warning, sometimes there's grey and it's not just B&W.
In this case, on reflection, I felt I was a bit hasty and zealous. Didn't give due consideration because I did it when in a hurry. When I looked at his post and use of "dill" again, he did back it up with some decent arguments and didn't just play the man. And it was at the very soft end of the spectrum of possible insults.

The reason I backtracked is because I'm wary of setting a precedent of warning for every minor slight. Trying to find a balance with that.
Clearly, this is not my finest hour as a mod. Sorry. I'm human and vulnerable to stuffing up from time to time.

No worries mate.

s

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Re: Hawks 1st round pick watch

Post: # 1662472Post st.byron »

MC Gusto wrote:Would be funny to swap it back for jaeger!!
Speaking of which, he's again not selected this week. Very expensive car to have sitting in the garage not being used.


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Post: # 1662473Post saintsRrising »

Ch7 and Foxtel I assume must be happy with saints fans boosting the viewing numbers for Hawks games :wink:


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Post: # 1662559Post Enrico_Misso »

Typical Caaaaaarlton scum putting in a surge for #1 pick.


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st.byron wrote:
MC Gusto wrote:Would be funny to swap it back for jaeger!!
Speaking of which, he's again not selected this week. Very expensive car to have sitting in the garage not being used.
How is Freeman going?


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Post: # 1662683Post suss »

Any chance the lions pip the dogs? That would be delish ...


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Post: # 1662705Post saint3d »

Bluthy wrote:
st.byron wrote:
MC Gusto wrote:Would be funny to swap it back for jaeger!!
Speaking of which, he's again not selected this week. Very expensive car to have sitting in the garage not being used.
How is Freeman going?
He's played as many games as the kid Collingwood got with the pick we traded for him. But we can pretend we sold the farm for him if you like.


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Post: # 1662738Post Rosco »

saint3d wrote:
Bluthy wrote:
st.byron wrote:
MC Gusto wrote:Would be funny to swap it back for jaeger!!
Speaking of which, he's again not selected this week. Very expensive car to have sitting in the garage not being used.
How is Freeman going?
He's played as many games as the kid Collingwood got with the pick we traded for him. But we can pretend we sold the farm for him if you like.
freeman is a camry and he needs a bit of love and attention. he's not a ferrari that's missing an axle.


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Rosco wrote:
freeman is a camry and he needs a bit of love and attention. he's not a ferrari that's missing an axle.
I am hoping Freeman is at least a WRX - but point taken about the Ferrari


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Post: # 1662771Post saintspremiers »

The Swines are continuing to push hard for a good pick also


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Post: # 1662776Post Kate »

Disappointed that Sydney and North both lost. Was hoping for a bit of a buffer.


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Post: # 1662777Post BackFromUSA »

So now we have to barrack for Sydney, North, Brisbane and Carlton (ok that last bit is impossible) until they have enough wins to stay on top of Hawthorn???


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Post: # 1662782Post SaintPav »

Hawks won't finish on the bottom. It will end up being a pick 5-8 or thereabouts.


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Post: # 1662792Post saint3d »

Sainter_Dad wrote:
Rosco wrote:
freeman is a camry and he needs a bit of love and attention. he's not a ferrari that's missing an axle.
I am hoping Freeman is at least a WRX - but point taken about the Ferrari
I agree. Maybe we bought a Camry thinking it was a WRX, but that's not the same as clearing out the Lamborghini and the Maserati to make room for the Ferrari.


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saint3d wrote:
Sainter_Dad wrote:
Rosco wrote:
freeman is a camry and he needs a bit of love and attention. he's not a ferrari that's missing an axle.
I am hoping Freeman is at least a WRX - but point taken about the Ferrari
I agree. Maybe we bought a Camry thinking it was a WRX, but that's not the same as clearing out the Lamborghini and the Maserati to make room for the Ferrari.
we bought a wrx, hoping we could fix it's blown engine, now we're hoping the cheap camry engine we've replaced it with will get it up and running again.


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Post: # 1664971Post Fidelis »

If the Roos get up against the suns tonight, Hawks slide to #17!


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Fidelis wrote:If the Roos get up against the suns tonight, Hawks slide to #17!
I still recon the Swans will end up winning a few as well and leapfrog Hawks...
although they have more insentive to tank

Hawks clearly a bottom 4 side though... Hope we get a gun!


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Post: # 1664989Post The Fireman »

Is fighting your guts out for a number one pick an oxymoron ?


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