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evo wrote:
If he lands at Hawthorn that means they cannot afford Tom Mitchell, so maybe we should look at him instead.!! He would be cheaper and appears to be more robust than O'Meara.
Why not?
Tom Michell vs JO'M footywire.. in 2014.
Tom Mitchell is only 9 months older... and averaged the same numbers as O'Meara in 2014 with slightly less time on the ground!
evo wrote:
If he lands at Hawthorn that means they cannot afford Tom Mitchell, so maybe we should look at him instead.!! He would be cheaper and appears to be more robust than O'Meara.
Why not?
Tom Michell vs JO'M footywire.. in 2014.
Tom Mitchell is only 9 months older... and averaged the same numbers as O'Meara in 2014 with slightly less time on the ground!
evo wrote:
If he lands at Hawthorn that means they cannot afford Tom Mitchell, so maybe we should look at him instead.!! He would be cheaper and appears to be more robust than O'Meara.
Why not?
Tom Michell vs JO'M footywire.. in 2014.
Tom Mitchell is only 9 months older... and averaged the same numbers as O'Meara in 2014 with slightly less time on the ground!
middo, I'm sure O'Meara was very good, with the potential to be great - but Mitchell is great. He has realised and is realising his potential because he is durable. Sounds like the safer bet. That's who I'd be concentrating on recruiting - let someone else take a gamble with him- hopefully Essendope.
st.byron wrote:A lot of people salivating about a guy who hasn't played AFL for two years, has been the subject of intensive medical support, who played half a game with all the best medical advice beforehand and when he did managed half a game before coming off before needing further surgery.
A lot of people with severely rose tinted glasses thinking this dude is going to be the cream on our cake. A lot of people dreaming of what he was and not what he is. As though future medical opinion somehow discounts the actual evidence of the last 2 years. The trouble with medical opinion is those people don't actually to go out and play. "Expert' medical opinion is totally fallible. And when they're wrong, they just nod and shrug - there are zero consequences if they're wrong.
For StKFC on the other hand, recruiting a highly priced, high profile player who can't play would be totally shooting ourselves in the foot. Taking up a massive chunk of our salary cap and what effect on morale amongst the playing group?
I see a bad moon rising........
I see a bathroom on the right...........
I started with nothing and I've got most of it left!
st.byron wrote:A lot of people salivating about a guy who hasn't played AFL for two years, has been the subject of intensive medical support, who played half a game with all the best medical advice beforehand and when he did managed half a game before coming off before needing further surgery.
A lot of people with severely rose tinted glasses thinking this dude is going to be the cream on our cake. A lot of people dreaming of what he was and not what he is. As though future medical opinion somehow discounts the actual evidence of the last 2 years. The trouble with medical opinion is those people don't actually to go out and play. "Expert' medical opinion is totally fallible. And when they're wrong, they just nod and shrug - there are zero consequences if they're wrong.
For StKFC on the other hand, recruiting a highly priced, high profile player who can't play would be totally shooting ourselves in the foot. Taking up a massive chunk of our salary cap and what effect on morale amongst the playing group?
I see a bad moon rising........
I see a bathroom on the right...........
I started with nothing and I've got most of it left!
evo wrote:
If he lands at Hawthorn that means they cannot afford Tom Mitchell, so maybe we should look at him instead.!! He would be cheaper and appears to be more robust than O'Meara.
Why not?
Tom Michell vs JO'M footywire.. in 2014.
Tom Mitchell is only 9 months older... and averaged the same numbers as O'Meara in 2014 with slightly less time on the ground!
Tom Mitchell averages 28 possession per game in 2016!!!
What is it about O'Meara that makes him so special - and worthy of taking an undue risk on him?
If fit a line breaking star and cross between Lenny and Dangerfield.
Mitchell very good player but we have Dunstan Ross and Armo who all aren't as good as him but similar types.
evo wrote:
If he lands at Hawthorn that means they cannot afford Tom Mitchell, so maybe we should look at him instead.!! He would be cheaper and appears to be more robust than O'Meara.
Why not?
Tom Michell vs JO'M footywire.. in 2014.
Tom Mitchell is only 9 months older... and averaged the same numbers as O'Meara in 2014 with slightly less time on the ground!
Tom Mitchell averages 28 possession per game in 2016!!!
What is it about O'Meara that makes him so special - and worthy of taking an undue risk on him?
If fit a line breaking star and cross between Lenny and Dangerfield.
Mitchell very good player but we have Dunstan Ross and Armo who all aren't as good as him but similar types.
Well.... with JOM... if he ticks the appropriate boxes regarding the medical testing.... As far as I know he still wants Gold Coast to get something for him in return soooo going to Essendon may be a last resort and we can probably pay him more than Hawthorn... and depending on what we want to part with... that probably puts St Kilda in the box seat to secure his footballing services. But then... that's just me speculating.
Even if passed fit, Jaegar is more than likely not going to become the player he would have otherwise become if he remained injury free.
Anyway, what will "passing fit" even entail? .... Will he be put under rigorous, match-simulated stress conditions, to test his knees - will his knees be repeatedly pounded into the unforgiving turf of Docklands? - will he be asked to run repeat 100 metres to see if he still has his top speed, etc....?
Does passing fit mean he is ready to play football right now - and he's at the level he was prior to injury?
How much leeway will we allow him during the fitness test -- therefore, how reliable will the testing be and how will it ensure that he will stand up to AFL football -- I mean, when he was fit he succumbed to the rigours of the game, what guarantees are there that he will be fine now after his body has been compromised?
The fitness test will probably just rubber-stamp him, as is -- I think we may have already made up our minds! And that's where the risk is! I hope this isn't the case.
Are we getting a certainty - a top echelon player blessed with speed, line-breaking ability ---- or are we taking risks and hoping to rehabilitate him --- just as we are hoping to rehabilitate Freeman?
Last edited by samoht on Thu 01 Sep 2016 12:40pm, edited 1 time in total.
No guarantees at all with him samoht. Just risk.
The hawks can afford a gamble like that, not sure we can again (Freeman).
And we would have to part with too much to get him.
