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Re: Suggestion Box

Post: # 1459862Post Dr Spaceman »

GrumpyOne wrote:
BackFromUSA wrote:Test 1 was posted from fan forum.

Test 2 posted from admin forum.
Test 3 posted from GrumpyOne
Did it work?


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Post: # 1459892Post desertsaint »

Baiting is a bit difficult to define. Take perfectionist's ranting and/or insulting anti lib threads. Obvious baiting/trolling. But despite not agreeing with a lot of it, it makes me laugh, at much at the consistency of the poster as the stuff posted. Wouldn't like that stuff censored. It helps colour the forum.
In the end we're all adults or in some cases, supposedly engaging with adults, hence we should accept a level of difference in behaviour and be a lot more tolerant of people's posting styles. To censor them would be to deny them the opportunity to participate in the forum.
It all seems a bit one sided - asking people to be moderate in their posts, rather than asking members to be moderate in their attitude towards the posts. In the end if you don't like a posters style, or you don't want to engage with them, simply put them on ignore. I find a lot of people in society that advocate for tolerance are anything but when you scratch their particular itch.


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Post: # 1459916Post GrumpyOne »

desertsaint wrote:Baiting is a bit difficult to define. Take perfectionist's ranting and/or insulting anti lib threads. Obvious baiting/trolling.
If Perfectionist's posts are obviously baiting/trolling, the same must be said for Stinger's equally insulting anti-Labor threads.

It will be interesting how these rules are applied in both their cases. Moderation must be impartial, and equally applied to be successful.


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Post: # 1460677Post BackFromUSA »

Having an opinion on controversial topics such as religion and politics is not baiting but people are probably going to disagree ... And respectful debate on the topic welcome ... Abusing posters not welcome.


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Post: # 1460678Post BackFromUSA »

8pm Monday night

In total there are 88 users online :: 26 registered, 7 hidden and 55 guests

Great traffic.

Also great respectful footy topics and discussion despite a devastating loss.


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Post: # 1460731Post asiu »

devastating loss !

well ,
thats also a matter of opinion.

...but u do play a decent game of politics.


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Post: # 1460750Post desertsaint »

GrumpyOne wrote:
desertsaint wrote:Baiting is a bit difficult to define. Take perfectionist's ranting and/or insulting anti lib threads. Obvious baiting/trolling.
If Perfectionist's posts are obviously baiting/trolling, the same must be said for Stinger's equally insulting anti-Labor threads.

It will be interesting how these rules are applied in both their cases. Moderation must be impartial, and equally applied to be successful.
Yep, hoping moderation will be impartial, and tolerant. Enjoy the debate both of them create.


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Post: # 1460882Post Cairnsman »

BackFromUSA wrote:8pm Monday night

In total there are 88 users online :: 26 registered, 7 hidden and 55 guests

Great traffic.

Also great respectful footy topics and discussion despite a devastating loss.
Exhibit Seven (7).


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Post: # 1461385Post matrix »

Good to see some things finally happened.
The sites about 20% of the way there.

And how on earth do you think u can do perm bans.
Log an ISP #?
People will just run thru a blind proxy.
Could have ten usernames and no one would know.
Impossible to police


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Post: # 1461409Post Cairnsman »

Should change the rule that stops posters from posing information contained in PMs into the public forum that relates to discussions with administrators and moderators regarding any administration or moderation issue.

Remove the secrecy and corruption and bring the silent majority out into the public forum.


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Post: # 1478713Post matrix »

so whats the next plans for the site??

banner...tick
more mods....tick

did the quote function get fixed?
(if i have to explain the prob with it again ill just give up on this one)

what about the look and functions we talked about ?
anything planned update wise in the off season as the site still kinda looks....boring
whats the status with the 'owner'?....is he part of it all now or not interested now three things have been done and he thinks its all good enough?

i havent been here for quite a while, needed a break from bashing my head against a wall, yet not much seems to have changed?

whats the go for the future and whats the time line to do it?
8-)


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Post: # 1478726Post stinger »

matrix wrote:so whats the next plans for the site??

banner...tick
more mods....tick

did the quote function get fixed?
(if i have to explain the prob with it again ill just give up on this one)

what about the look and functions we talked about ?
anything planned update wise in the off season as the site still kinda looks....boring
whats the status with the 'owner'?....is he part of it all now or not interested now three things have been done and he thinks its all good enough?

i havent been here for quite a while, needed a break from bashing my head against a wall, yet not much seems to have changed?

whats the go for the future and whats the time line to do it?
8-)
i thought you were long gone....the site and most posters......apart from the sad one or two ...have moved on......


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Post: # 1478871Post asiu »

he's still telling fibs matrix ,
not the full picnic hamper anymore
gone a bit marshmellow around the edges of reality
... everyone knows that.

Welcome back :)

If your lucky , u might get an answer inside a month
which is better than 12monthly as it used to be.


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Post: # 1479357Post BackFromUSA »

matrix wrote:so whats the next plans for the site??

banner...tick
more mods....tick

did the quote function get fixed?
(if i have to explain the prob with it again ill just give up on this one)

what about the look and functions we talked about ?
anything planned update wise in the off season as the site still kinda looks....boring
whats the status with the 'owner'?....is he part of it all now or not interested now three things have been done and he thinks its all good enough?

i havent been here for quite a while, needed a break from bashing my head against a wall, yet not much seems to have changed?

whats the go for the future and whats the time line to do it?
8-)
What are the 3 things you would like the MOST and i can see if they are possible ...

As for the quote function ... seems to be working fine ... let me know if it isn't at your end ...


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Post: # 1479369Post Cairnsman »

A page added to the site for a declaration of independence from the club/AFL
Democracy and a voting system
A board of elected administrators


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Post: # 1479405Post asiu »

the G1's 'Right to Exist' , for as long as this forum survives ,
written into SS law/rules/constitution/or so such control machinations.

... preferably as a Community Moderated Entity , 18 years 'n older ,
invite only structure.*
(no dobbing , no mods , no set structure .... let the Community figure it out)


*
all welcome initially.
... the Community has the right to withdraw invite.


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Post: # 1479421Post stinger »

Cairnsman wrote:A page added to the site for a declaration of independence from the club/AFL
Democracy and a voting system
A board of elected administrators
dream on...or better still....build a bridge and move on..... :wink:


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Post: # 1479425Post asiu »

oh yea
:P

what about that Official Announcement on Marts banning ?


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Post: # 1479670Post BackFromUSA »

Principle of Q'uo wrote:oh yea
:P

what about that Official Announcement on Marts banning ?
didn't that happen?


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Post: # 1479672Post BackFromUSA »

Cairnsman wrote:A page added to the site for a declaration of independence from the club/AFL

Democracy and a voting system

A board of elected administrators
1. Meaningless
2. Impossible to do without system being exploited
3. Administrators elected by the owner


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Principle of Q'uo wrote:the G1's 'Right to Exist' , for as long as this forum survives ,
written into SS law/rules/constitution/or so such control machinations.

... preferably as a Community Moderated Entity , 18 years 'n older ,
invite only structure.*
(no dobbing , no mods , no set structure .... let the Community figure it out)


*
all welcome initially.
... the Community has the right to withdraw invite.
That sort of exists already ... it is called the ANIMAL ENCLOSURE and only restrictions are to comply with the laws of Victoria and Australia.


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Post: # 1479699Post stinger »

BackFromUSA wrote:
Principle of Q'uo wrote:the G1's 'Right to Exist' , for as long as this forum survives ,
written into SS law/rules/constitution/or so such control machinations.

... preferably as a Community Moderated Entity , 18 years 'n older ,
invite only structure.*
(no dobbing , no mods , no set structure .... let the Community figure it out)


*
all welcome initially.
... the Community has the right to withdraw invite.
That sort of exists already ... it is called the ANIMAL ENCLOSURE and only restrictions are to comply with the laws of Victoria and Australia.
so why did i cop a months ban for saying what i really thought of certain posters in the AE?.....i don't go there anymore as i feel it is too risky....


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Post: # 1479725Post st.byron »

BackFromUSA wrote:
Cairnsman wrote:A page added to the site for a declaration of independence from the club/AFL

Democracy and a voting system

A board of elected administrators
1. Meaningless
2. Impossible to do without system being exploited
3. Administrators elected by the owner

I agree with BFUSA.

Idealistic without practical viability.


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Post: # 1479733Post asiu »

BackFromUSA wrote:
Principle of Q'uo wrote:oh yea
:P

what about that Official Announcement on Marts banning ?
didn't that happen?
No.
...but i could be wrong ,
i was wrong once.

Show me where it is please ?


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Post: # 1479737Post asiu »

BackFromUSA wrote:
Principle of Q'uo wrote:the G1's 'Right to Exist' , for as long as this forum survives ,
written into SS law/rules/constitution/or so such control machinations.

... preferably as a Community Moderated Entity , 18 years 'n older ,
invite only structure.*
(no dobbing , no mods , no set structure .... let the Community figure it out)


*
all welcome initially.
... the Community has the right to withdraw invite.
That sort of exists already ... it is called the ANIMAL ENCLOSURE and only restrictions are to comply with the laws of Victoria and Australia.

It sort of
IS NOTHING LIKE
Our General Forum back.

Whats wrong ...
not actually about serving the Community ?


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