LOVETT File Mark II

[St Fidelius]

Many have left this site because of the crap that happens (mainly in the off season), but some posters are just plain dead sh1ts IMO and still post.

I get called a "disgrace" and a poster agreed with the comments because "he went with the majority of what what the posters stated"....

I took up the case in the Andrew Lovett file that was leaked to 3AW....

I never disclosed any material in that case and I get labelled a disgrace, and this poster.... "saintspremiers" posted that he agreed with the "majority "

What the F*** did I ever disclose???

Weak as piss IMO....

This site has sucked, for some time and it's not getting better

The likes of posters that "just agree" with posters that just do not have a clue with the investigation says enough.

Again, I responded to the time it took to conduct the investigation and within 12 months is a good result.



Extensive Call charge records were conducted on LOVETT's mobile phone and other Saints players (and that this takes considerable time)....

Records were also conducted on the police station that is in question and entry to the building and other issues were conducted...

Telephone records were also conducted and cross checking of those records had to be implemented.

Reliance on private companies to provide this information (at a significant cost to Vic Pol) takes considerable time...

Again, Vic Pol is really at a standstill until we get that information, then Vic Pol has to also consider audits from other contractors like IBM and Fujitsu, who cover the VicPol IT and that was a big issue with this file..

Audits were down for about 9 months and one of these audits were imperative to the case...

So again, this file was done in a considerable time, bearing in mind the constraints we had.

The brief of evidence went to the OPP and it was recommended for criminal procedure against the alleged police member in early Feb....

So if you still think I am "big noting myself " or a disgrace in disclosing jack sh1t you are the disgrace IMO.

TAKE NOTE SAINTSPREMIERS

[Saintersss]

Have you been drinking?

[St Fidelius]

Have you been drinking?

No, have you

[quidnunc]

Hey, St Fid - no problem having an opinion and putting it on a board for discussion.

Those who disagree and come up with logical argument are good reads and those that just wish to "stir the pot" can be ignored, although it does get boring skipping past the rants.

[saintspremiers]

What r u On about now?

[St Fidelius]

What r u On about now?

Are u able to read AND comprehend...

Your posts in this Lovett threads were nothing but agreeing with the so called majority and imo you have not a clue...

Again, I have conducted a full audit into this Lovett file and d1ckheads like yourself agreed with the "majority" .....

I did not and never disclosed any information, but mentioned the time constraints in obtaining that information and converting that to intelligence for a brief to be complied.

Your pathetic response was to agreeing with some posters that I am "big noting myself" and yet I had no disclosure on anything just shows why posters leave, the pathetic majority that you are willing to grasp .

ARE YOU TOO simplistic to understand that

Or just love to go with the crowd???

I really have to laugh at some of the posters on here, most on here are faceless,, but not you....

Care to meet as to just why you agreed with these faceless posters as to why you think I am"big noting myself"???

and with no disclosure...

I thought this site wanted information and although my disclosure only discussed the time frames in investigations, you were right on board to join in..

any wonder this site averages about 15 a day with the likes off you and agree with some serial pests when they chime in..

Good luck with you and you constant posts on your tipping for crowds attendance, am am sure that would be great "poster gather" for seasons to come ...

When it comes to a poster that has some knowledge posters like yourself get flamed ...


Just why bother with posters with c0chheads like yourself on this forum let alone your swearing when you don't have kids at the ground

Please continue with your intriguing weekly posts of "guess the crowd" and continue with "agreeing with the so call majority of "big noting myself"


D1pst1ck

[plugger66]

Talk about having a high opinion of yourself.

[saintspremiers]

Talk about having a high opinion of yourself.

St Fid is right of course!

[Enrico_Misso]

Looks like misuse of prescribed medication is not confined to the playing group.

[Con Gorozidis]

ok.
so im trying to decipher this and remember the argument from a year ago.

ill have a try:

somone leaked some detail of the lovett case to 3aw - potentially perverting the course of justice so that lovett couldnt get a fair trial.

st fid knew about and made mention of it. it appears it was a policemen who did the leaking

when st fid reported this on here some posters attacked him and call him a big noter with no facts.

this pissed st fid off.

the fact has now been established that st fid had correct info all along and still feels aggrieved at his treatment from 12 months ago on this site by certain individuals who like to sink the boots in with the mob.

something like that?

[santazzi]

ok.
so im trying to decipher this and remember the argument from a year ago.

ill have a try:

somone leaked some detail of the lovett case to 3aw - potentially perverting the course of justice so that lovett couldnt get a fair trial.

st fid knew about and made mention of it. it appears it was a policemen who did the leaking

when st fid reported this on here some posters attacked him and call him a big noter with no facts.

this pissed st fid off.

the fact has now been established that st fid had correct info all along and still feels aggrieved at his treatment from 12 months ago on this site by certain individuals who like to sink the boots in with the mob.

something like that?

I have also been trying to get my head around this as i clearly remember the thread which was about two or three months a go.

The issue being debated was whether victorian Police took far too long (about 12 months) to compile evidence to charge the policeman responsible for the leak. Now, my recollection is that the discussion was very much uninformed about police procedures and full of shoulds and should nots.

Then enter St Fid..........

In st Fids defence i would like to state the following

1. He did not disclose any information that was personal, identifyable, compromising or anything that can be considered that he abused his office
2. All he did was provide information about process which actually helped bring to an end an aimless, uninformed discussion about how slack vic pol were
3. I was one of the people who asked him questions about processes i have never heard of eg. the idea of audit....he explained those to us which i think was a great educational process.........if anything i think from my perspective, he has done a great service to police forces around the country by educating us on the enourmous and complex tasks they undertake in the electronic age

So I have no idea what all the fuss is about. I remember posts on the past where posters have provided factual procedural information(which are probably freely available on the web) based on their work place to help a thread go on the right track.........i do not why it is so different with St Fid...

I work in a hospital. If a thread goes of track about procedural maters on this forum, i certainly will have no problem in setting the record right....And I donot think I will be big noting myself either........Just share knowledge that should be shared and be freely available in an open society................

[St Fidelius]

ok.
so im trying to decipher this and remember the argument from a year ago.

ill have a try:

somone leaked some detail of the lovett case to 3aw - potentially perverting the course of justice so that lovett couldnt get a fair trial.

st fid knew about and made mention of it. it appears it was a policemen who did the leaking

when st fid reported this on here some posters attacked him and call him a big noter with no facts.

this pissed st fid off.

the fact has now been established that st fid had correct info all along and still feels aggrieved at his treatment from 12 months ago on this site by certain individuals who like to sink the boots in with the mob.

something like that?

Yeah in a way that's right...

It took me months to get audits and to establish a time line and I get posters on here complaining about timing issues and posters suggesting I am "big noting" myself, when I first posted on the time it takes to prosecute a fellow member....

I then get the smart arse comment of a poster (with no idea) that he agrees with "the majority" that I " big noted myself....(thanks saintspremiers)

Again I did not disclose any information and the knobheads that suggested this and also agreed with this are total buffoons imo .

I don't bother posting much any more and I can see why so many have left this site...

Far too many internet heroes that a faceless, but I do know saintspremiers and I consider his comments in the past an insult.

I have also read the brief of evidence of the rape allegation of the Milne and Joey before it was handed to the OPI for for further investigation...

My only input on this site was the time constants into a full investigation, and I get called as "big noting myself"

SCREW YOU ALL, YOU ARE NOT WORTH IT IMO!!!!

ANY WONDER THIS SITE HAS LOST SO MANY MEMBERS

[GrumpyOne]

I'm not going to wallow in the gutter of who is or isn't big noting themselves.

I am just going to say that is justice being done when someone has to put their life on hold for 18 months between being charged and going to trial?

Footballers have a very limited life span in the game. 18 months to them is like six or seven years to us.

If Lovett is adjudged innocent, his life and career is still f***ed as a result of being charged. Be the same result for any other player in his position. It's really not good enough.

[Moods]

I'm not going to wallow in the gutter of who is or isn't big noting themselves.

I am just going to say that is justice being done when someone has to put their life on hold for 18 months between being charged and going to trial?

Footballers have a very limited life span in the game. 18 months to them is like six or seven years to us.

If Lovett is adjudged innocent, his life and career is still f***ed as a result of being charged. Be the same result for any other player in his position. It's really not good enough.

He won't ever be judged innocent. He may well be judged not guilty.

[skeptic]

he also wasn't sacked for the alledged incident

[GrumpyOne]

he also wasn't sacked for the alledged incident

Yeah.... it was coincidence that he was sacked the day after he was charged.

[InkerSaint]

he also wasn't sacked for the alledged incident

Yeah.... it was coincidence that he was sacked the day after he was charged.

So what? Does the club have a moral obligation?

Did they sack him illegally?

Was retaining him in the best interests of the club?

[GrumpyOne]

he also wasn't sacked for the alledged incident

Yeah.... it was coincidence that he was sacked the day after he was charged.

So what? Does the club have a moral obligation?

Did they sack him illegally?

Was retaining him in the best interests of the club?

Not relevant to the discussion.

The point is he is not facing trial until 19 months after the alleged offence.

He could still be found innocent.

19 months is a hell of a long time in the career of a footballer.

Effectively his career has been destroyed for an offence he has yet to be found guilty of.

The police and the courts should have got their act together and had him stand trial within six months of the offence.

[plugger66]

he also wasn't sacked for the alledged incident

Yeah.... it was coincidence that he was sacked the day after he was charged.

So what? Does the club have a moral obligation?

Did they sack him illegally?

Was retaining him in the best interests of the club?

Not relevant to the discussion.

The point is he is not facing trial until 19 months after the alleged offence.

He could still be found innocent.

19 months is a hell of a long time in the career of a footballer.

Effectively his career has been destroyed for an offence he has yet to be found guilty of.

The police and the courts should have got their act together and had him stand trial within six months of the offence.

I fail to see what options the club had. Would be interested what you think they should have done considering certain players may have seen the alledged incident.

[3rd generation saint]

If St.Kilda had retained Lovett you could hear the howls of protests from certain big mouth holier than thou media personalties.
Especially one who judges more than others despite his stupidity which has left him chasing ambulances in search of a new liver.

[Dr Spaceman]

Especially one who judges more than others despite his stupidity which has left him chasing ambulances in search of a new liver.

Hannibal Lecter?

[bigred]

Who's this Andrew Lovett you speak of?

[Dr Spaceman]

Who's this Andrew Lovett you speak of?

Ex Sandy coach.










spelt badly

[Eastern]

Especially one who judges more than others despite his stupidity which has left him chasing ambulances in search of a new liver.

Hannibal Lecter?

Are you talking about the bloke who by his own admission had sex with a 15 year old girl when he was 27 and then claimed that he didn't know her age even though he was friends with her father !!

[Dr Spaceman]

Especially one who judges more than others despite his stupidity which has left him chasing ambulances in search of a new liver.

Hannibal Lecter?

Are you talking about the bloke who by his own admission had sex with a 15 year old girl when he was 27 and then claimed that he didn't know her age even though he was friends with her father !!

Yes that's the one Eastern.

And afterwards he ate her liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.