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Elshaug Appointed Recruiting Manager

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http://www.saints.com.au/news/newsartic ... fault.aspx

Doesn't state what happened to John Peake?


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Looks like Peake's calls were not considered up to scratch....


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saintsRrising wrote:Looks like Peake's calls were not considered up to scratch....
Perhaps. The other possibility is that he has been moved to the vacant position of list manager, although this is unlikely. Some official word would be nice.


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Is this like the Ken Sheldon appointment?


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plugger66 wrote:Is this like the Ken Sheldon appointment?
Claytons appointment until they find someone else?


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he has experience at a variety of clubs
and is attune with Ross- being one of the trio that put together the plan for the saints from Ross's resume on..


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SaintPav wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Is this like the Ken Sheldon appointment?
Claytons appointment until they find someone else?
Maybe or another inside job that doesnt really work out. Who knows. I suppose he doesnt have a lot to beat.


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plugger66 wrote:
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plugger66 wrote:Is this like the Ken Sheldon appointment?
Claytons appointment until they find someone else?
Maybe or another inside job that doesnt really work out. Who knows. I suppose he doesnt have a lot to beat.
Wouldn't have a clue but only normal to appoint guys they know and like.


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well at least we have one. seems good to me.

didnt peake resign a while back meaning the position was vacant for a while?


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Con Gorozidis wrote:well at least we have one. seems good to me.

didnt peake resign a while back meaning the position was vacant for a while?
there -to me- hadn't been anything official about peake- you may have been thinking of Drain.


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Surely this appointment puts the lie to the myth that the assistant coaches couldn't stand the head coach and couldn't wait to get out the door!


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SaintPav wrote:
plugger66 wrote:Is this like the Ken Sheldon appointment?
Claytons appointment until they find someone else?
As today marks the date of our last picks for a while...there would be no need for such a tactic.


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Perhaps. The other possibility is that he has been moved to the vacant position of list manager, although this is unlikely. .
Would seem very unlikely since the club is actively advertising the position.

See http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... hp?t=67323


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Perhaps. The other possibility is that he has been moved to the vacant position of list manager, although this is unlikely. .
Would seem very unlikely since the club is actively advertising the position.

See http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... hp?t=67323
Advertisng the role means sweet FA if they are just going through a process.


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InkerSaint wrote:Surely this appointment puts the lie to the myth that the assistant coaches couldn't stand the head coach and couldn't wait to get out the door!
You should probably direst that particular question to those posters who 'know' any ex-assistant coaches.


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SaintPav wrote:
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Perhaps. The other possibility is that he has been moved to the vacant position of list manager, although this is unlikely. .
Would seem very unlikely since the club is actively advertising the position.

See http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... hp?t=67323
Advertisng the role means sweet FA if they are just going through a process.
Ok, can you explain then why Elshaug's role was not like advertised?

Also have you actually read the job advert?

Peake would not meet those requirements. If it was written for him, they would match it to him.

They are after a legal eagle with contracts experience which is not Peake.


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saintsRrising wrote:
SaintPav wrote:
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Perhaps. The other possibility is that he has been moved to the vacant position of list manager, although this is unlikely. .
Would seem very unlikely since the club is actively advertising the position.

See http://www.saintsational.com/forum/view ... hp?t=67323
Advertisng the role means sweet FA if they are just going through a process.
Ok, can you explain then why Elshaug's role was not like advertised?

Also have you actually read the job advert?

Peake would not meet those requirements. If it was written for him, they would match it to him.

They are after a legal eagle with contracts experience which is not Peake.
I read it. Big deal. I can't explain anything and either can you because you are not aware of all the facts and don't pretend to be because you are guessing. You have about as much idea of what's going on behind the scenes as I do which is ZILCH


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I reckon we could do without a Recruiting Manager.

The List Manager only needs to wait until 2 weeks before the draft and then read all the articles by Emma Quayle, Paul Daffey, Ben Casanelia etc and then rank the players in a spreadsheet and it's all done. Then tell the Development coach to turn them into footballers.

Oh he should probably check to see that they have a photo on AFL.com


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Gershwin wrote:I reckon we could do without a Recruiting Manager.

The List Manager only needs to wait until 2 weeks before the draft and then read all the articles by Emma Quayle, Paul Daffey, Ben Casanelia etc and then rank the players in a spreadsheet and it's all done. Then tell the Development coach to turn them into footballers.

Oh he should probably check to see that they have a photo on AFL.com
Nah forget them articles; just check Saintsational :wink:


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SaintPav wrote: I read it. Big deal. I can't explain anything and either can you because you are not aware of all the facts and don't pretend to be because you are guessing. You have about as much idea of what's going on behind the scenes as I do which is ZILCH
I am not pretending anything. I have expressed an opinion...and no where have I claimed inside knowledge.

But I can read and I can apply logic. ...and have explained my reasoning....

1/ Why would the club write a job advert where they obviously want a lawyer if their intent was to have already given it to someone with Peake's work history? Or indeed to give him the inside running. The ad does the reverse and would put Peake well down the queue if he did apply.

The advert radiates they want a lawyer.


I also note the references to the Tribunal, and that the club now wants us to have specialist to reresent the club in such matters. And thank god for that as our Tribunal representation of players has been slipshod and incompetent. From what I know of Peake he does not have the background for this either.

Baker for example merely had to stay mute, and should have...but instead admitted there was contact and dug his own grave.

2/ Other employees at the club, have just been appointed to different roles with no advertising. So again what you are suggesting would seem most unlikely.


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SaintPav wrote: I read it. Big deal. I can't explain anything and either can you because you are not aware of all the facts and don't pretend to be because you are guessing. You have about as much idea of what's going on behind the scenes as I do which is ZILCH
I am not pretending anything. I have expressed an opinion...and no where have I claimed inside knowledge.

But I can read and I can apply logic. ...and have explained my reasoning....

1/ Why would the club write a job advert where they obviously want a lawyer if their intent was to have already given it to someone with Peake's work history? Or indeed to give him the inside running. The ad does the reverse and would put Peake well down the queue if he did apply.

The advert radiates they want a lawyer.


I also note the references to the Tribunal, and that the club now wants us to have specialist to reresent the club in such matters. And thank god for that as our Tribunal representation of players has been slipshod and incompetent. From what I know of Peake he does not have the background for this either.

Baker for example merely had to stay mute, and should have...but instead admitted there was contact and dug his own grave.

2/ Other employees at the club, have just been appointed to different roles with no advertising. So again what you are suggesting would seem most unlikely.
That sounds like Ross Levene (?Vice-President) is the man for the job !!


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Gershwin wrote:I reckon we could do without a Recruiting Manager.

The List Manager only needs to wait until 2 weeks before the draft and then read all the articles by Emma Quayle, Paul Daffey, Ben Casanelia etc and then rank the players in a spreadsheet and it's all done. Then tell the Development coach to turn them into footballers.........
What about checking out the Phantom Drafts and draft profiles on BigFooty as well :shock:


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That sounds like Ross Levene (?Vice-President) is the man for the job !!
I think that has been the problem...getting lawyers who are not specialists in the are to dabble in Tribunal Hearings.

So the new postion looks to bea step in the right direction to me.


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saintsRrising wrote:
SaintPav wrote: I read it. Big deal. I can't explain anything and either can you because you are not aware of all the facts and don't pretend to be because you are guessing. You have about as much idea of what's going on behind the scenes as I do which is ZILCH
I am not pretending anything. I have expressed an opinion...and no where have I claimed inside knowledge.

But I can read and I can apply logic. ...and have explained my reasoning....

1/ Why would the club write a job advert where they obviously want a lawyer if their intent was to have already given it to someone with Peake's work history? Or indeed to give him the inside running. The ad does the reverse and would put Peake well down the queue if he did apply.

The advert radiates they want a lawyer.


I also note the references to the Tribunal, and that the club now wants us to have specialist to reresent the club in such matters. And thank god for that as our Tribunal representation of players has been slipshod and incompetent. From what I know of Peake he does not have the background for this either.

Baker for example merely had to stay mute, and should have...but instead admitted there was contact and dug his own grave.

2/ Other employees at the club, have just been appointed to different roles with no advertising. So again what you are suggesting would seem most unlikely.
I'm saying that I DO NOT KNOW. I have not made any assumptions about anytihng unlike some people.
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saintsRrising wrote:Looks like Peake's calls were not considered up to scratch....
more likely fall out for drafting lovett and jessie smith


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