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Re: Please explain

Post: # 1600207Post saynta »

The mods have my sympathy and full support.


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Re: Please explain

Post: # 1600208Post SaintPav »

WindSister wrote:it has to be remembered and fairly considered , imo ,
by the holier than thou crowd ,
that Plugger has been the go to or go at TARGET
around here for an inordinate 'n unfair amount of time.

certainly , 'some' of his expressed contributions , attracted the blamers like moths to a flame
but an excessive amount of that targetship was petty , lame , unworthy and unjustifiable.

how much can a koala bear ,
when those 'supposed' to be (creating 'n) maintaining a level 'n fair play ground ,
fail their part of the social agreement.

obviously he reached his frustrated breaking point.
(possibly 'n if so , no doubt regretfully fueled by a little liquor)

'n whilst i'm commenting on fair n effen reasonable ,
where's the warning for the dog in this thread ,
proclaiming that Plugger has a mental illness ????

or is this language of the winners allowed
in two faced SS land when it suits ?
You should be banned for being unkind to dogs.


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Re: Please explain

Post: # 1600209Post Stephen Theodore »

Stephen Theodore wrote:
Sobraz wrote:Did he start a troll thread about Freeman doing his hammy again?
Surely that's not ban worthy?!
Yep, good point Sobraz.

Surely not the only one that should be banned on this site, must've been a private exchange, didn't seem that controversial on the thread, unless I'm missing something.
Which I was, just read BFUSA reasons and also has my support.


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Re: Please explain

Post: # 1600211Post BackFromUSA »

WindSister wrote:it has to be remembered and fairly considered , imo ,
by the holier than thou crowd ,
that Plugger has been the go to or go at TARGET
around here for an inordinate 'n unfair amount of time.

certainly , 'some' of his expressed contributions , attracted the blamers like moths to a flame
but an excessive amount of that targetship was petty , lame , unworthy and unjustifiable.

how much can a koala bear ,
when those 'supposed' to be (creating 'n) maintaining a level 'n fair play ground ,
fail their part of the social agreement.

obviously he reached his frustrated breaking point.
(possibly 'n if so , no doubt regretfully fueled by a little liquor)

'n whilst i'm commenting on fair n effen reasonable ,
where's the warning for the dog in this thread ,
proclaiming that Plugger has a mental illness ????

or is this language of the winners allowed
in two faced SS land when it suits ?
Whilst he felt he was targeted - he wasn't. The rules were applied equally. He was PM'd and warned when he breached rules - just like many others were. Every time he was innocent in his own eyes. Every time! And every time it was my bias and a vendetta.

I have just read the mental illness comment - isn't it someone trying to find a reason for him to be excused and key back in - like Lyon / Buddy and needing another chance - rather than a real commentary on him. Also as he is no longer a part of this community -even if it was commentary on him personally - there is no breach of rule against any member of this community!

Personally I shall miss his footy contributions.

I shall not miss having to deal with his argumentative / contrary posting and moderating the ongoing disputes.

He had his (many many) chances to reform and post under and within the forum rules.

It was a shame he didn't.

It is now history.

Over.


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Re: Please explain

Post: # 1600213Post Devilhead »

Its like the forum has lost a toenail - its just that this time it wont grow back - meh


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Re: Please explain

Post: # 1600214Post saint-stu »

Had to be done. The behaviour was slightly better after the last banning and alias change, but in the past few months it had returned to the usual baiting and arguing.

Maybe now we can just talk about the saints? Imagine that.


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Re: Please explain

Post: # 1600215Post skeptic »

I'm really shocked by this.

6 months ago I loved the prospect of pluggs being permanently banned. That's no secret.

However, following the whole reincarnation thing... It's hard for me to admit this but I actually grew rather fond of the guy. Pluggers' retorts and poking holes in arguments was okay in small doses. I don't know if things have been escalating the last few weeks/months as I'm not on here as much in the slow off-season... But it seemed like things were going pretty well.

It all seemed to be going well.

It's a tough position for BFUSA because he's given his version of events and plugs isn't here to defend himself... But if plugger has really posted that... Well it can't be re-posted.

And i trust the man.

It'll be interesting to see how things work out now in the season proper


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Post: # 1600216Post Bunk_Moreland »

He has been coming over to BF more and more of late.

They do not tolerate baiting. He will need to be very careful


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IP ban or nickname ban?


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Post: # 1600223Post The Fireman »

Con Gorozidis wrote:IP ban or nickname ban?
total ban. IP I guess. But you can change Ip's ? anyway if we see a new poster and he is giving everyone the s***s then we will know that the ban failed :)


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Re: Please explain

Post: # 1600228Post asiu »

he did feel unfairly targeted.
... coz he was ... by the ss slippery set.

(if u read my post correctly , u would understand that there was no accusation or comment regarding
admin or mods targeting him unfairly
only regarding their inability to provide a level and fair playing field for him to participate in)

ie ... you got your man by not protecting him ... whilst allowing the slipsliders near free reign to recreate
the anti plugger vibe ... check out the dogs posting history on the matter for an example of proof
of that to which i point.

imo , oc and fwtw which i understand is little.

Amazing Leadership.
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... its the frog on a slow boil trick.

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Post: # 1600229Post Jacks Back »

The Fireman wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:IP ban or nickname ban?
total ban. IP I guess. But you can change Ip's ? anyway if we see a new poster and he is giving everyone the s***s then we will know that the ban failed :)
You can get a free VPN (virtual private network) for free like betternet giving you a different ip address.


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Post: # 1600231Post The Fireman »

something i posted elsewhere, windsister I have no sympathy.

The way I see it is that it's a forum that is controlled by a handful of blokes who like doing that sort of thing...good luck to them. for us its just a forum where we can get on and blurb crap about the footy, if you wanna do that follow the rules or even the idiosyncrasy's of the mods or don't , simple choice.
personal abuse is a no no anywhere or any place unless you are willing to suffer the consequences.


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Post: # 1600232Post The Fireman »

Jacks Back wrote:
The Fireman wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:IP ban or nickname ban?
total ban. IP I guess. But you can change Ip's ? anyway if we see a new poster and he is giving everyone the s***s then we will know that the ban failed :)
You can get a free VPN (virtual private network) for free like betternet giving you a different ip address.
Yes ofcourse ..so will be interesting to see how the mods can ban anyone.


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Post: # 1600233Post Jacks Back »

WindSister wrote:he did feel unfairly targeted.
... coz he was ... by the ss slippery set.

(if u read my post correctly , u would understand that there was no accusation or comment regarding
admin or mods targeting him unfairly
only regarding their inability to provide a level and fair playing field for him to participate in)

ie ... you got your man by not protecting him ... whilst allowing the slipsliders near free reign to recreate
the anti plugger vibe ... check out the dogs posting history on the matter for an example of proof
of that to which i point.

imo , oc and fwtw which i understand is little.

Amazing Leadership.
s*** hot stuff.
... its the frog on a slow boil trick.

Vale SS.
That's what I thought. It all seemed pretty one sided of who was baiting who sometimes and yet Ripper76 carries the can, again (albeit losing his stuff on the way).

I can't believe that he would write stuff like that at all. Doesn't seem the type. The only problem for us punters point of view is we have only heard one side of the story without any hope of hearing the other. Judge, Jury & Executioner has spoken though. No correspondence (good or bad) will be entered into.


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Post: # 1600234Post saint-stu »

The Fireman wrote:
Jacks Back wrote:
The Fireman wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:IP ban or nickname ban?
total ban. IP I guess. But you can change Ip's ? anyway if we see a new poster and he is giving everyone the s***s then we will know that the ban failed :)
You can get a free VPN (virtual private network) for free like betternet giving you a different ip address.
Yes ofcourse ..so will be interesting to see how the mods can ban anyone.
It's impossible to enforce, as if p66 really wanted to rejoin, he certainly could. But I wonder if he'd bother given it would be obvious every time and each time he would have to start over with a new alias.


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Jacks Back wrote:
The Fireman wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:IP ban or nickname ban?
total ban. IP I guess. But you can change Ip's ? anyway if we see a new poster and he is giving everyone the s***s then we will know that the ban failed :)
You can get a free VPN (virtual private network) for free like betternet giving you a different ip address.
Exactly. This board doesn't have the capability to ban someone permanently. I could start as many new nicknames as I wanted. Mind you I'd have to be pretty bored or desperate, I wouldn't even bother to hide the fact, Playon1, Playon2, Playon3...Playon672

Would you like me to log on from Japan today or perhaps Sweden? Mind I'm on a paid vpn all the time

Measures could be taken against it, but are time consuming


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saint-stu wrote:
The Fireman wrote:
Jacks Back wrote:
The Fireman wrote:
Con Gorozidis wrote:IP ban or nickname ban?
total ban. IP I guess. But you can change Ip's ? anyway if we see a new poster and he is giving everyone the s***s then we will know that the ban failed :)
You can get a free VPN (virtual private network) for free like betternet giving you a different ip address.
Yes ofcourse ..so will be interesting to see how the mods can ban anyone.
It's impossible to enforce, as if p66 really wanted to rejoin, he certainly could. But I wonder if he'd bother given it would be obvious every time and each time he would have to start over with a new alias.
Not impossible, just a pain in the butt


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Post: # 1600241Post asiu »

at least thats two of us Jack.
... but 'pretty one sided' would have to the understatement of the year.

It was criminal.

... all the pomp n ceremonial pontifications about old arguments carried forward
didnt matter when slipped into Plugger in the main
but absolutely DID if 'n when he responded in kind.

No wonder he had an effen meltdown.
'n he's not the first around here to do so
since our return to the 1950's.


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Post: # 1600242Post BackFromUSA »

Jacks Back wrote:
WindSister wrote:he did feel unfairly targeted.
... coz he was ... by the ss slippery set.

(if u read my post correctly , u would understand that there was no accusation or comment regarding
admin or mods targeting him unfairly
only regarding their inability to provide a level and fair playing field for him to participate in)

ie ... you got your man by not protecting him ... whilst allowing the slipsliders near free reign to recreate
the anti plugger vibe ... check out the dogs posting history on the matter for an example of proof
of that to which i point.

imo , oc and fwtw which i understand is little.

Amazing Leadership.
s*** hot stuff.
... its the frog on a slow boil trick.

Vale SS.
That's what I thought. It all seemed pretty one sided of who was baiting who sometimes and yet Ripper76 carries the can, again (albeit losing his stuff on the way).

I can't believe that he would write stuff like that at all. Doesn't seem the type. The only problem for us punters point of view is we have only heard one side of the story without any hope of hearing the other. Judge, Jury & Executioner has spoken though. No correspondence (good or bad) will be entered into.
Firstly plenty of posters have received warnings for baiting or abusing plugger66 and ripplug66. Most accepted it gracefully. Some not so gracefully. None were abusive and personal.

Secondly, I am not judge, jury and executioner. There is more than 1 mod. AND there are rules. There was no need for that tirade of abuse. He is no longer welcome here.


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Post: # 1600243Post asiu »

says you.
i'd welcome him.

i'm part of the community also.


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Post: # 1600246Post 8856brother »

WindSister wrote:says you.
i'd welcome him.

i'm part of the community also.
Me to. Plugger has quite possibly been bullied into an apparent meltdown.


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Post: # 1600247Post asiu »

and ,
hasn't Plugger ALSO accepted his myriad of warnings n banning 'gracefully'
regardless of their actual due !
... until his meltdown.

one effup doesnt write off a mans character.
... just exposes our pain to unfairness for all to see.


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8856brother wrote:
WindSister wrote:says you.
i'd welcome him.

i'm part of the community also.
Me to. Plugger has quite possibly been bullied into an apparent meltdown.
Bullied? Are you kidding?

He received perhaps 2 or maybe 3 warnings in the past few months!

Each warning disappears after 7 days.

They are meaningless unless you get warned 3 times within 7 days ... and only then the cummulate into a short ban.

Nothing justifies what he did.

There was no campaign against him.

Others got warned too for any offences against him.

In fact 2 other posters got warned for their posts to or about him ... in that same thread that ripplug66 reacted to ...

As admin, if I wanted to get rid of him I could have done so YEARS ago and definitely last year when he was banned - just as a nic ban. I limited it to a nic ban. It could have been a full ban then.

I wanted him here. But only if he was prepared to post within the rules JUST LIKE EVERYONE and then accept a warning JUST LIKE EVERYONE when he breached rules.


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Post: # 1600249Post asiu »

no ones sayn he's been bullied by you as you or admin or mod/s Simon

you're not seeing the forest for tbe trees.


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