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Team vs. Hawks

Post: # 1722361Post shrodes »

AFL app seems to have leaked our team a little early (not fake news btw!)

Saints
IN:
Jimmy Webster

OUT:
Hunter Clark (omitted)

Hawks
IN:
Shaun Burgoyne
Will Langford
James Worpel

OUT:
Conor Glass (omitted)
Liam Shiels (injured)
James Sicily (suspension)


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Post: # 1722381Post kosifantutti »

B: Brandon White, Nathan Brown, Shane Savage
HB: Sam Gilbert, Jake Carlisle, Jack Newnes
C: Jack Sinclair, Jack Steele, Blake Acres
HF: Jarryn Geary, Paddy McCartin, Jack Billings
F: Jade Gresham, Tim Membrey, Ben Long
FOL: Tom Hickey, Sebastian Ross, Jack Steven
I/C: Luke Dunstan, Jimmy Webster, Nick Coffield, Maverick Weller
E: Hunter Clark, David Armitage, Logan Austin, Rowan Marshall


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Post: # 1722384Post The_President »

How good is Gears going right now. Can’t get a gig in the backline so he gets named on a forward flank. Would much Armo in that position if we’re just trying to till it with someone. Jesus.


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The_President wrote:How good is Gears going right now. Can’t get a gig in the backline so he gets named on a forward flank. Would much Armo in that position if we’re just trying to till it with someone. Jesus.
Was named on the wing last week, I wouldn’t read too much into it.


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The_President wrote:How good is Gears going right now. Can’t get a gig in the backline so he gets named on a forward flank. Would much Armo in that position if we’re just trying to till it with someone. Jesus.
Will play on Luke Bruest and from the job he did on Toby Greene last week I reckon Gears is going pretty well


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Post: # 1722392Post Scollop »

Wishing that Jade Gresham or Jack Billings get 'ommitted' at some stage as well

Both need a kick in the pants.


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Post: # 1722393Post spert »

Sicily is a big out for the Hawks- been one of their strong attacking defenders. Just need us to take advantage of this- Paddy and Membrey need to take the game on.


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Post: # 1722394Post desertsaint »

would've preferred webster in for newnes - seems being a leader is a big selection advantage.
Hunter does seem a liitle too green though. A decent spell at Sandy can't hurt.


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Post: # 1722399Post Mr Magic »

I wouldn't be surprised if there is a late change - Newnes out with concussion and either Armo or Clark in.


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Post: # 1722400Post bigcarl »

BringBackMadDog wrote:
The_President wrote:How good is Gears going right now. Can’t get a gig in the backline so he gets named on a forward flank. Would much Armo in that position if we’re just trying to till it with someone. Jesus.
Will play on Luke Bruest and from the job he did on Toby Greene last week I reckon Gears is going pretty well
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Mr Magic wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if there is a late change - Newnes out with concussion and either Armo or Clark in.
Newnes is the coaches love child.

Never to be dropped.

He should’ve been dropped last week but clearly is a special case.

I’m sick of his shyte dusposal skills


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Post: # 1722404Post shrodes »

saintspremiers wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if there is a late change - Newnes out with concussion and either Armo or Clark in.
Newnes is the coaches love child.

Never to be dropped.

He should’ve been dropped last week but clearly is a special case.

I’m sick of his shyte dusposal skills
Think I heard on the weekend, hasn’t missed a game in 4 seasons? Not sure if that was in general or just through injury.


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saintspremiers wrote:
Mr Magic wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if there is a late change - Newnes out with concussion and either Armo or Clark in.
Newnes is the coaches love child.

Never to be dropped.

He should’ve been dropped last week but clearly is a special case.

I’m sick of his shyte dusposal skills
SP, I've never been involved in an AFL Selection meeting, but I'd be absolutely staggered if any player was picked purely because they were the coach's 'love child'. I reckon that is just pure fan bs every time it is raised.
No coach is going to select any player just because they 'like' them.
The team selections, as I understand it, are made by a panel including those assistant coaches tasked with specific areas of the game.
It beggars belief that a head coach would overrule an assistant coach purely because the head coach 'liked' a player.
In the end the coaches 'live/die' on their own performances (actual and perceived) and to think they would jeopardise that employment to pick a player who didn't warrant selection just because they liked' him is, IMHO, fanciful.
The reason(s) certain players are selected may not be obvious to us but I'm certain there are reason(s) other than that player being 'liked' by the head coach.


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Post: # 1722410Post bigred »

Yeah it's official.

Newnes' real surname is Richardson.


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Post: # 1722411Post Con Gorozidis »

Newnes is always about our 17th or 18th best player week in week out.
Always a couple to drop or somebody who get injured.
Hence he always manages to stay in.


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Post: # 1722412Post Teflon »

Mr Magic wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if there is a late change - Newnes out with concussion and either Armo or Clark in.
Hope that's right - Newnes adds little and I suspect not the future


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Personally I don't get the Newnes hate. Before he was concussed he speared a pass into our forward 50 and hit a teammate on the chest. Just about the only good kick into the forward 50 for the night. I think his kicking is better than given credit here. Perhaps a lack of viable options coming off half back or the wing with no-one in the forward 50 was a bigger issue? Far better kick than half the team.


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desertsaint wrote:would've preferred webster in for newnes - seems being a leader is a big selection advantage.
Hunter does seem a liitle too green though. A decent spell at Sandy can't hurt.
I’m so sick of this rubbish where everyone bar the goddam f$#king idiot Match Committee can see that Newnes at best is out of form and more likely just a complete butcher of the footy. He’s been horrible without concussion.


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Post: # 1722417Post samoht »

Newnes averages over 20 possessions from half back flank,about the same as Savage does (who is acknowledged as our best kick) - and even though he averages fewer forward 50 entries than Savage, he ends up with more score assists, as he picks the better options and initiates better chains of football.
Steven, Ross etc.and over 60% of our side, in fact, had a lower disposal efficiency than Newnes in 2017.

I don’t think Steven or Ross would play the half back flank any better. Newnes is an important player.


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BackFromUSA wrote:Personally I don't get the Newnes hate. Before he was concussed he speared a pass into our forward 50 and hit a teammate on the chest. Just about the only good kick into the forward 50 for the night. I think his kicking is better than given credit here. Perhaps a lack of viable options coming off half back or the wing with no-one in the forward 50 was a bigger issue? Far better kick than half the team.
Oh dear, did you not watch his butchering in any of the other games?


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saintspremiers wrote:
BackFromUSA wrote:Personally I don't get the Newnes hate. Before he was concussed he speared a pass into our forward 50 and hit a teammate on the chest. Just about the only good kick into the forward 50 for the night. I think his kicking is better than given credit here. Perhaps a lack of viable options coming off half back or the wing with no-one in the forward 50 was a bigger issue? Far better kick than half the team.
Oh dear, did you not watch his butchering in any of the other games?
After 100 games I saw them as exceptions and not the rule. Recovering from pre season knee surgery. He will hit his stride again.


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Post: # 1722430Post parkeysainter »

Newnes is still 7th in total disposals and 5th in metres gained for the Saints this year. Not too bad, considering he barely played v the Giants.

His numbers are down for tackles, stoppages, contested possies and clearances though. He only has 3 tackles (for every game) to his name which is very surprising.


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Post: # 1722431Post Ape_Man »

With a few others here, I don’t get the Newnes hate.

He is more often good than bad but, I concede, his errors can be obvious.

I probably could understand better if his teammates around him were miles better and could land a Sherrin on a dime 9 times out of 10.

But I guess he is the next in line for the Raph, Gilbert and Geary scapegoat jumper. Maybe even a Jayson Daniels :)

Wouldn’t be a St Kilda team without one.


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Post: # 1722433Post parkeysainter »

Ape_Man wrote:With a few other here, I don’t get the Newnes hate.

He is more often good than bad but, I concede, his errors can be obvious.

I probably could understand better if his teammates around him were miles better and could land a Sherrin on a dime.

But I guess he is the next in line for the Raph, Gilbert and Geary scapegoat jumper. Maybe even a Jayson Daniels :)

Wouldn’t be a St Kilda team without one.
Every club has a good 'ol scapegoat or two. Seems like its now either Gilbo or Geary or Newnes....even noticed some Saints fans are having an unfair crack at Billings and Gresham now too.


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