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Ben Long

Post: # 1714707Post silverhalo »

I thought Ben Long played his best game for the club today. I love his dash, has really good hands, and his defensive game is fantastic, could be really valuable for us going forward...


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Re: Ben Long

Post: # 1714710Post desertsaint »

showed a bit. not sold on him but we need to give him time, adds a bit of pace and not afraid to go in hard.


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1 kick, 6 handballs.


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Re: Ben Long

Post: # 1714712Post takeaway »

SaintPav wrote:1 kick, 6 handballs.

Think you can at least double those stats .

Yes, 7 kicks, 8 hb best game for club.


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Got better in the last quarter, but lacked composure for 3/4s and disposed too quickly and to the wrong or even no options. Even the around the corner goal he kicked in the last should have been a handball to 35 streaming towards goal with space in front. Hope he improves.


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Re: Ben Long

Post: # 1714722Post SaintPav »

takeaway wrote:
SaintPav wrote:1 kick, 6 handballs.

Think you can at least double those stats .

Yes, 7 kicks, 8 hb best game for club.
Are you sure?


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How was Daniel and Cyril going at the same point, not as good, enough said!!!!!


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Re: Ben Long

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SaintPav wrote:
takeaway wrote:
SaintPav wrote:1 kick, 6 handballs.

Think you can at least double those stats .

Yes, 7 kicks, 8 hb best game for club.
Are you sure?

Yep AFL stats


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Re: Ben Long

Post: # 1714727Post saintsRrising »

SaintPav wrote:
takeaway wrote:
SaintPav wrote:1 kick, 6 handballs.

Think you can at least double those stats .

Yes, 7 kicks, 8 hb best game for club.
Are you sure?
Yes and. yes


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Answer's many questions about some!!!!!


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Re: Ben Long

Post: # 1714734Post Moods »

stonecold wrote:How was Daniel and Cyril going at the same point, not as good, enough said!!!!!
Cyril was smashing it and was a great player in their premiership in 08 which was his first year.


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Some people are easily pleased.

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Moods wrote:
stonecold wrote:How was Daniel and Cyril going at the same point, not as good, enough said!!!!!
Cyril was smashing it and was a great player in their premiership in 08 which was his first year.
By game 3, was he? what about Daniel?????


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Long showed tonight he has the tools (speed, skill and pressure acts) to make it. Yeah he made some mistakes but with more confidence and games he will be a ripper. Charlie Cameron took a lot of patience early on and now the clubs are being rewarded as we will be with Long.


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No reason to drop him for the North game.

More game time will bring more composure.


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stonecold wrote:
Moods wrote:
stonecold wrote:How was Daniel and Cyril going at the same point, not as good, enough said!!!!!
Cyril was smashing it and was a great player in their premiership in 08 which was his first year.
By game 3, was he? what about Daniel?????
This is Long's 2nd year!! Not Cyril's fault that Long couldn't get a game in his 1st year. Cyril was a key player in a premiership team in his 1st year.

Long, so far, appears out of his depth. He panics and makes poor decisions. Was baffled as to why he got a game today but Richo is obsessed with the 'pressure fwd' whereas I believe that all the fwds should be capable of applying pressure, either in the air or when it hits the ground. Sadly, at the moment, we aren't able to.


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Re: Ben Long

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Moods wrote:
stonecold wrote:
Moods wrote:
stonecold wrote:How was Daniel and Cyril going at the same point, not as good, enough said!!!!!
Cyril was smashing it and was a great player in their premiership in 08 which was his first year.
By game 3, was he? what about Daniel?????
This is Long's 2nd year!! Not Cyril's fault that Long couldn't get a game in his 1st year. Cyril was a key player in a premiership team in his 1st year.

Long, so far, appears out of his depth. He panics and makes poor decisions. Was baffled as to why he got a game today but Richo is obsessed with the 'pressure fwd' whereas I believe that all the fwds should be capable of applying pressure, either in the air or when it hits the ground. Sadly, at the moment, we aren't able to.
Daniel?????


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Re: Ben Long

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stonecold wrote:
Moods wrote:
stonecold wrote:
Moods wrote:
stonecold wrote:How was Daniel and Cyril going at the same point, not as good, enough said!!!!!
Cyril was smashing it and was a great player in their premiership in 08 which was his first year.
By game 3, was he? what about Daniel?????
This is Long's 2nd year!! Not Cyril's fault that Long couldn't get a game in his 1st year. Cyril was a key player in a premiership team in his 1st year.

Long, so far, appears out of his depth. He panics and makes poor decisions. Was baffled as to why he got a game today but Richo is obsessed with the 'pressure fwd' whereas I believe that all the fwds should be capable of applying pressure, either in the air or when it hits the ground. Sadly, at the moment, we aren't able to.
Daniel?????

Daniel was a key player in his 2nd year in a premiership team. I wasn't sure how he went 1st year and thought you must have been asking a trick question which somehow backed up your argument. So I googled how he went.

He made his AFL debut in round 1 of the 2016 AFL season in a victory against the club's traditional rival Carlton at the MCG.[9] He did not play the following week, sitting out one match with a minor leg injury.[10] Rioli kicked his first career goal in his next match, a round 3 loss to Adelaide.[11] He missed another match in round 9, this time to travel home because of an illness in the family.[12] At the mid-season bye he had played 10 of a possible 12 matches and kicked six goals over that span.[13] He missed two matches after the bye, this time in rounds 14 and 15 before returning in round 16 and remaining in the side for the final eight matches of the season.[13] Rioli won nomination for the 2016 AFL Rising Star award after a 16 disposal, four tackle and two goal performance in the club's round 22 loss to St Kilda.[14] He finished his debut season having played 18 matches and kicking a club sixth-best 13 goals.[11] He also finished ranked sixth at the clubs for tackles and was awarded the Cosgrove-Jenkins Award as Richmond's best first-year player.

So Daniel in his first year played nearly every game for his club and won best 1st year player.

So you've used two aboriginal players who play a similar position to Long. And both those players you have used to back up your argument, absolutely SMASH Long at the same time in their careers. Not sure what your point is. Unless you're agreeing with me?


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Re: Ben Long

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He deserves to hold his place for next weeks game against North.


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Re: Ben Long

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Bruce G McAbee wrote:He deserves to hold his place for next weeks game against North.
Why?


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Moods wrote:
Bruce G McAbee wrote:He deserves to hold his place for next weeks game against North.
Why?
Why not?????

Who comes in then, in your opinion?????


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Re: Ben Long

Post: # 1714763Post SuperDuper »

showed a little but decision making generally below average to poor and goes to ground too much

Showed he is not too far off and may make it but the jury is well and truly still out


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Re: Ben Long

Post: # 1714765Post Shaggy »

Long played well and better than I expected. I have never rated him but today was very promising. There is a reason why the coaches want him


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Re: Ben Long

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Shaggy wrote:Long played well and better than I expected. I have never rated him but today was very promising. There is a reason why the coaches want him
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Re: Ben Long

Post: # 1714775Post fugazi »

Give this kid a chance...has the tools, and he will become a player. Thought he showed a bit today


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