Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

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Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby BackFromUSA » Fri 08 Dec 2017 12:15pm

This one will be interesting.

Does Robert Muir get a gig?
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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby prwilkinson » Fri 08 Dec 2017 12:44pm

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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby Drake Huggins » Fri 08 Dec 2017 12:57pm

Winmar. Burke for runner up. Joffa for heart.
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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby Joffa Burns » Fri 08 Dec 2017 3:04pm

For mine in no particular order...

Buggsy Moran
Stuart Trott
Russell Reynolds (played a lot half back as well)
Joffa Cunningham
Phil Narkle (flanks as well)
Aussie Jones
Robbie Muir......as pure wingmen.

In the later 90's it was more of a midfield role filled by Nicky Winmar and even Nathan Burke, Peckett, Mathew Young, Joel Smith, Tony Brown and you could argue Goddard played the wing floated back and forward in his prime years of 2008 - 2012.

Other pretty handy mids like Dal & Joey played wing/outside mid in the Ross Lyon era and a fairly decent tall blonde former forward of German extraction went ok on the wing in the 2016 season.
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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby BackFromUSA » Fri 08 Dec 2017 10:02pm

Trott was sensational. Tough and skilful. Hated him at Hawthorn.

Winmar
Trott
Muir
Cunningham

Would be my order.

Muir might have been #1 if he played in an era like today when they couldn't get in his head via the colour of his skin.

He towelled up Keith Grieg when he was at his peak.
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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby Darth Vader » Fri 08 Dec 2017 10:19pm

If Winmar was a wingman then it has to be him. If not, I’ll go with Joffa Cunningham.
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Postby mr six o'clock » Fri 08 Dec 2017 10:47pm

John bonney once told me a story about he and big carl .
They had left training and were on nepean hwy at a set of lights
Carl gave an admirer a wink . Next thing John was walking home. No complaints.
Now that's a wingman !
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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby Drake Huggins » Fri 08 Dec 2017 10:49pm

I forgot Mad dog. How could I? What a player. As talented as anyone I've seen in a saints' jumper. Cood a been a contender. Burkey played most of his early footy on the wing. You can't leave him out of the discussion.
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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby Linton Lodger » Sat 09 Dec 2017 12:37pm

Robbie Muir was quite a player, unfortunately he only played spasmodically. Winmar is the best, Gil McAdam was pretty close. Although Muir, unfortunately had the potential to be better.
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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby Trev from the Bush » Sat 09 Dec 2017 3:19pm

Stuart Trott by a long, long way IMO. Muir could have been anything, but how could you seriously consider a player who was such a divisive figure, his only consistency was upsetting the club's applecart.

Bugsy Moran continued to improve into the '70's, was a very fine player and solid citizen. John Bonney was an unbelievably gifted player and as hard as bluestone. I remember him cleaning up Bluey Hampshire in a one on one contest against Geelong at Moorabin one day. One of them wasn't going to get up and big Bluey was stil stocktaking his ribs months later. Unfortunately, JB's career was disrupted for long periods with the Saints.

Any Stuart Trott clone would still be a terrific player today.
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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby older saint » Sun 10 Dec 2017 2:34pm

Winmar, in what i can remember. Cunningham and Jones were very good. McAdam skilled but inconsistent. Trott before my memory.
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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby Trev from the Bush » Sun 10 Dec 2017 3:49pm

older saint wrote:Winmar, in what i can remember. Cunningham and Jones were very good. McAdam skilled but inconsistent. Trott before my memory.


You're not that "old" then, Older Saint?
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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby saynta » Sun 10 Dec 2017 6:14pm

1. MUIR
2. TROTT
3. CUNNINGHAM.

Cuz was really a half forward flanker but as a wingman he had the drop on the other three.
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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby George27 » Sun 10 Dec 2017 9:44pm

mr six o'clock wrote:John bonney once told me a story about he and big carl .
They had left training and were on nepean hwy at a set of lights
Carl gave an admirer a wink . Next thing John was walking home. No complaints.
Now that's a wingman !


Johnny Bonney used to run our local milk bar. Lovely bloke. Of course better known as second rover to Rossy Smith, but thanks for the good story re his "wingman " role !

As to wingmen , my vote goes to Aussie Jones , just ahead of Stewie Trott, then Joffa. Aussie of course moved to HBF later in his career, but played many fine games on the wing.
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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby robbie muir » Mon 11 Dec 2017 3:26pm

Only other decent wingman that hasn't been mentioned so far would be John Manzie. John played 117 games for the Saints between 1967 and 1975 including the 1971 Grand Final.
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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby Vazelos » Mon 11 Dec 2017 7:52pm

Neil Elvis Winmar a freak of a player the best I saw on the wing.
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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby saint64 » Thu 14 Dec 2017 4:59pm

Russell Greene and Val Perovic should get honourable mentions
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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby leighsaintsince66 » Sun 24 Dec 2017 12:16am

I would have Trott as the best wingman.
Winmar was perhaps a more complete player, but played more as a half forward.
He even starred at full forward when Plugger was out.

Cunningham and Jones were also great.
Have we seen many faster players than Aussie at his prime?
Perhaps Besanko in the early 70's?
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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby older saint » Sun 24 Dec 2017 4:20pm

Trev from the Bush wrote:
older saint wrote:Winmar, in what i can remember. Cunningham and Jones were very good. McAdam skilled but inconsistent. Trott before my memory.


You're not that "old" then, Older Saint?


Probably go back to 1978 on memory. Old enough for me anyways! haha
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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby longtimesaint » Sun 24 Dec 2017 4:52pm

older saint wrote:
Trev from the Bush wrote:
older saint wrote:Winmar, in what i can remember. Cunningham and Jones were very good. McAdam skilled but inconsistent. Trott before my memory.


You're not that "old" then, Older Saint?


Probably go back to 1978 on memory. Old enough for me anyways! haha

I go back to 1958 when we had Bill Coady and Roger Head on the wings.
The team was starting to develop with Howell, Roberts,Guy and Guyatt
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Re: Best Saints wingmen in the past 50 years?

Postby Winmar » Mon 25 Dec 2017 12:52pm

In my 30 odd years as a Saint, if Winmar is classed as a wingman, there can be no contest. I can't really comment on anyone who preceded him.
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