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Second best FF and CHF

Postby whiskers3614 » Tue 05 Dec 2017 6:31pm

Thanks for getting this concept started BFUSA, makes a change from the usual off season stuff!
Hope you don't mind me starting this one.
Guess our best in the key forward posts are pretty obvious!
Was Loewe next best at both?
What about Gehrig, Rex Hunt and Barry Breen?
Pretty sure Doc was outside the 50 year limit.
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Re: Second best FF and CHF

Postby skeptic » Tue 05 Dec 2017 8:18pm

Gehrig would be hard pressed to miss second best FF... he was a freaking ox in his prime. Few IMO could tear it apart like he could

And some erratic kicking blinds many to just how good Stewart Loewe was at his peak. Buckets was almost the perfect ruck rover for a while; he’d have these 25 possession games with a dozen marks (mostly contested), 10 hit outs and 4-5 goals. And he built his career playing alongside great forwards too.

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Re: Second best FF and CHF

Postby Trev from the Bush » Tue 05 Dec 2017 8:36pm

Doc retired at the end of 1968 so qualifies. Forgetting all the love for Nick, possibly romantically enhanced due to his retirement, Doc was clearly our greatest CHF prior to the great blonde fellow. Nick's longevity in the game gives him the honours but, believe me, Doc was the reason I became a Saints supporter as a little kid. He wasn't dubbed Mr Magic on a whim, he was truly a magician.

Fraser's record fares better than all others to make him second behind Plugger. No mean feat. His ability to kick a bag rates him highly as does 2 Coleman Medals,

Breeny and Stewie's greatness can be measured by both playing 300 games in, arguably, the hardest position to play.
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Re: Second best FF and CHF

Postby BackFromUSA » Tue 05 Dec 2017 9:42pm

Where does George Young rate with his efforts from 75-78?
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Re: Second best FF and CHF

Postby bergsone » Tue 05 Dec 2017 9:51pm

Doc was best i have seen,Nick was great player but imo there was only one plugger same goes for Doc
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Re: Second best FF and CHF

Postby whiskers3614 » Tue 05 Dec 2017 9:53pm

BackFromUSA wrote:Where does George Young rate with his efforts from 75-78?


Loved George, would have him vying with Alan Davis for best medium forward.
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Re: Second best FF and CHF

Postby Trev from the Bush » Tue 05 Dec 2017 10:31pm

BackFromUSA wrote:Where does George Young rate with his efforts from 75-78?



George was pure silk. Wen back to the west too soon, unfortunately. A real star.
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Re: Second best FF and CHF

Postby Trev from the Bush » Tue 05 Dec 2017 10:34pm

bergsone wrote:Doc was best i have seen,Nick was great player but imo there was only one plugger same goes for Doc


Too true.

The privilege of getting old but keeping your memory is being able to remember how great Baldock was.
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Re: Second best FF and CHF

Postby one point » Tue 05 Dec 2017 10:57pm

Trev from the Bush wrote:
bergsone wrote:Doc was best i have seen,Nick was great player but imo there was only one plugger same goes for Doc


Too true.

The privilege of getting old but keeping your memory is being able to remember how great Baldock was.

Agree with you both on that
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Re: Second best FF and CHF

Postby Linton Lodger » Wed 06 Dec 2017 8:15pm

Fraser Gehrig would be our second best FF. The mighty G Train was a joy to watch, not anywhere near as awesome as Plugger though. Riewoldt the second best CHF, I didn't see Baldock live, but the highlights I've seen are enough, he was the best.
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Re: Second best FF and CHF

Postby jonesy » Wed 06 Dec 2017 10:15pm

Stewart Loewe is the most underrated player in the history of the game.
Continually tore games to shreds, and then busted them open late with what was the most incredible pack/contesting marking you’ll ever see in 20/80 contests. He was taken for granted. Was a freak
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Re: Second best FF and CHF

Postby Dave McNamara » Wed 06 Dec 2017 10:52pm

Trev from the Bush wrote:
BackFromUSA wrote:Where does George Young rate with his efforts from 75-78?



George was pure silk. Wen back to the west too soon, unfortunately. A real star.


:cry:

I think that he left on bad terms too. Left for family reasons, and I don't think the club made things easy for him(?) I hope that's been patched up now!

But, only played one more year. Did a knee, and was done at 30. :cry:

Oh, and George chose us over Australia. 125 in his second game for WA batting at number 5, but quit cricket to join the Saintas.
Approaches from Collingwood, St Kilda, and South Australian club Norwood followed, with the Saints being the successful bidders. “I was impressed with Saints coach Allan Jeans,” Young recalled. “And I never had reason to regret my decision.”


He also starred for Scotland in a famous 3-1 defeat of 'the Saxons'.
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Absolute joke and travesty that George isn't in our Team of the Century! :evil:
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Re: Second best FF and CHF

Postby Dave McNamara » Wed 06 Dec 2017 11:05pm

The Doc should really be in a thread about the best half forward flanker - based on his height.

But short, over weight, slow. Left or right foot, dry or absolute glue-pot mud heap... made no difference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqTC52I3HmQ

Check out the hanger over the enemy ruckman - and of course, landed on his feet like a cat. https://youtu.be/YXu-lgSV1Rw

The farewell. :( And Yabby saying that it was his policy to never name the best player he'd ever coached. However... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=444VenjqxLk

The book. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bndmx6bylA
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Re: Second best FF and CHF

Postby evertonfc » Thu 07 Dec 2017 1:10pm

Our CHF is so hard to pick, but because of Baldock and Riewoldt having flanker-like attributes, I'd hapilly place them either side of Loewe.

Decent forward line.

Baldock - Loewe - Riewoldt
Milne - Lockett - Davis
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Re: Second best FF and CHF

Postby Mr Magic » Thu 07 Dec 2017 4:53pm

evertonfc wrote:Our CHF is so hard to pick, but because of Baldock and Riewoldt having flanker-like attributes, I'd hapilly place them either side of Loewe.

Decent forward line.

Baldock - Loewe - Riewoldt
Milne - Lockett - Davis


My best forward line (that I've seen) is :-

Baldock - Riewoldt - Young
Milne - Lockett - Loewe
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Re: Second best FF and CHF

Postby BackFromUSA » Thu 07 Dec 2017 10:30pm

Mr Magic wrote:
evertonfc wrote:Our CHF is so hard to pick, but because of Baldock and Riewoldt having flanker-like attributes, I'd hapilly place them either side of Loewe.

Decent forward line.

Baldock - Loewe - Riewoldt
Milne - Lockett - Davis


My best forward line (that I've seen) is :-

Baldock - Riewoldt - Young
Milne - Lockett - Loewe


Very hard to argue against that!

Might be worth compiling a full team at the end of this
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Re: Second best FF and CHF

Postby ausfatcat » Fri 08 Dec 2017 8:12am

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Re: Second best FF and CHF

Postby older saint » Sun 10 Dec 2017 2:39pm

Baldock 1 roo 2 if he qualifies in time period. from there Loewe was next best i saw

Gerhig best FF outside of plugger in my time.
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