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Saints give up on Tomlinson

Postby parkeysainter » Tue 17 Oct 2017 9:58am

Oh well. Was worth a crack.
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Re: Saints give up on Tomlinson

Postby degruch » Tue 17 Oct 2017 10:06am

Heard we were still in discussion yesterday, and were going to continue this morning...reports otherwise? GWS doesn't want Hickey? :P
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Re: Saints give up on Tomlinson

Postby parkeysainter » Tue 17 Oct 2017 10:14am

Just on AFL website. Saints are saying it won't work.
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Re: Saints give up on Tomlinson

Postby bigred » Tue 17 Oct 2017 10:25am

lol for a future second rounder are we really surprised?
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Re: Saints give up on Tomlinson

Postby Con Gorozidis » Tue 17 Oct 2017 10:35am

parkeysainter wrote:Just on AFL website. Saints are saying it won't work.


He is worth an early second Rd pick. Which we don't have.
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Re: Saints give up on Tomlinson

Postby saynta » Tue 17 Oct 2017 10:35am

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-17/s ... giant-tall

""After missing out on Tomlinson, the Saints plan to save money in preparation for a loaded 2018 free agency class.

"The way the salary cap works is you don't have to spend the money. I think there's confusion that 'Wow, if we don't bring in someone who's worthy of the dollars, we have to pay players A, B and C more money'. That's not the case," Bains said.

"The way the whole salary cap works with pre-payments, or even the AFL's banking system, if you don't use it this year, you've still got the capacity to use that same amount in future years, so that will certainly be the aim."

Bains also acknowledged the club might have too many ruckmen.

Billy Longer established himself as the No.1 option at the Saints while Tom Hickey lined up in just five matches this year, while Lewis Pierce did not add to his one senior game in 2017.

"In terms of the right number, we've got essentially five, if you classify Rowan Marshall, who's played predominantly forward but a bit of ruck, that might be too many," Bains said.

American rookie tall Jason Holmes is out of contract.""

Looks like Holmes is in a bit of trouble.
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Re: Saints give up on Tomlinson

Postby parkeysainter » Tue 17 Oct 2017 11:07am

saynta wrote:http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-17/saints-give-up-the-chase-for-giant-tall

""After missing out on Tomlinson, the Saints plan to save money in preparation for a loaded 2018 free agency class.

"The way the salary cap works is you don't have to spend the money. I think there's confusion that 'Wow, if we don't bring in someone who's worthy of the dollars, we have to pay players A, B and C more money'. That's not the case," Bains said.

"The way the whole salary cap works with pre-payments, or even the AFL's banking system, if you don't use it this year, you've still got the capacity to use that same amount in future years, so that will certainly be the aim."

Bains also acknowledged the club might have too many ruckmen.

Billy Longer established himself as the No.1 option at the Saints while Tom Hickey lined up in just five matches this year, while Lewis Pierce did not add to his one senior game in 2017.

"In terms of the right number, we've got essentially five, if you classify Rowan Marshall, who's played predominantly forward but a bit of ruck, that might be too many," Bains said.

American rookie tall Jason Holmes is out of contract.""

Looks like Holmes is in a bit of trouble.


I think one of our rucks will depart. People are throwing Hickey around but he probably won't want to leave Melbourne anyway, even if we put him up for trade. The reason he moved to Vic was for football reasons and his partners acting career from memory.
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Re: Saints give up on Tomlinson

Postby thejiggingsaint » Tue 17 Oct 2017 12:16pm

Cool heads and strong nerve, Sainters! Let's not panic into just getting " someone! Anyone! " just yet. 2018 is the go! Hold your nerve, and GO Saints!
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Re: Saints give up on Tomlinson

Postby Drake Huggins » Tue 17 Oct 2017 2:41pm

This year looks like a write-off, trade wise. We couldn't make anything happen. Picks 7 & 8 await. I think that was always the reality and the club has been less than "aggressive" in its trading. Nothing to see here. Move along now. Disappointing we couldn't carry out our intentions, but it's not the end of the world. Better not to throw away picks on GOP just to say we did some trades.
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Re: Saints give up on Tomlinson

Postby saynta » Tue 17 Oct 2017 3:00pm

Drake Huggins wrote:This year looks like a write-off, trade wise. We couldn't make anything happen. Picks 7 & 8 await. I think that was always the reality and the club has been less than "aggressive" in its trading. Nothing to see here. Move along now. Disappointing we couldn't carry out our intentions, but it's not the end of the world. Better not to throw away picks on GOP just to say we did some trades.


I fully agree with you there. In the end, the saints were never going to throw away pick 7 or 8 on just so so footballers.
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Re: Saints give up on Tomlinson

Postby CQ SAINT » Tue 17 Oct 2017 5:08pm

saynta wrote:
Drake Huggins wrote:This year looks like a write-off, trade wise. We couldn't make anything happen. Picks 7 & 8 await. I think that was always the reality and the club has been less than "aggressive" in its trading. Nothing to see here. Move along now. Disappointing we couldn't carry out our intentions, but it's not the end of the world. Better not to throw away picks on GOP just to say we did some trades.


I fully agree with you there. In the end, the saints were never going to throw away pick 7 or 8 on just so so footballers.


Not making the finals, when we had every chance to, and the last 6 weeks put a big gap between us and the bummers, who have attracted 2 decent players and may still get Strangler.

Having said that, our current list should develop substantially in the next 12 months. More so than anyother team outside of the 8. Picks 7 and 8 are crucial.

Here's hoping 2 very talented guys called McCartin and Freeman can fulfill their potential and bridge the gaps in our plan that opened up after round 16.

Edit: throw in potential deveopment with White Conellan and Battle.

Then we might just get aggressive and successful with Free Agency next year and get back on track.
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Re: Saints give up on Tomlinson

Postby Drake Huggins » Wed 18 Oct 2017 12:46pm

You make sense, CQS. Too much panic on here about us getting some GOPs. Apart from Saad and Smith, no one really suited our purposes, and even those two are not much better than what we already have. Trade period is like an auction. Too many excited buyers for a product that is a tad average.
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Re: Saints give up on Tomlinson

Postby desertsaint » Wed 18 Oct 2017 2:21pm

Might be a wise move to trade one of our top ten picks for another clubs 2018 first rounder. That way we have plenty of incentive to the club of a prospective trade.
I think our entire timeline for success has now shifted given our failure to trade in any talent. I would be looking at 2019 getting Kelly, and 2020 as the top four goal.
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