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Saints were involved in one of the worst trades in history..

Postby SaintPav » Sun 08 Oct 2017 9:22am

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Doper supporters on Twitter going into meltdown because they can't handle the truth.

But it's true.

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Postby bigcarl » Sun 08 Oct 2017 10:29am

:D :D :D :D :D
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Postby fugazi » Sun 08 Oct 2017 11:14am

Yes there was a certain schadenfreude when Francis asked for a trade.
Carlisle 4th in our B and F, Gresham finishing the year looking like a champ.
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Postby Selhurst Saint » Sun 08 Oct 2017 11:45am

I like it!!
"...If there has been one recurring theme through this whole shocking mess, it has been the misguided, inflated egos and their ill-judged determination to cling to long-standing old boy friendships. The bad advice that has guided the selfish and culpable James Hird has not only punctuated this saga but symbolised it..."
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Postby Vazelos » Sun 08 Oct 2017 12:23pm

You win some you lose some that's a great deal for us.
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Postby Con Gorozidis » Sun 08 Oct 2017 12:44pm

Too early to call?
Bombers might get something ok for Francis still.
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Postby Drake Huggins » Sun 08 Oct 2017 1:16pm

This was even better than last year's "Hawthorn steal". Two potential elites for a can of coke and a mars bar, in effect. Suck a big fat one, Dildoro.
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Postby Drake Huggins » Sun 08 Oct 2017 1:17pm

How to turn pick five into a savage loss, by Adrian Dildoro. Out now in all good bookshops and some of the bad ones as well!
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Postby ctqs » Sun 08 Oct 2017 1:19pm

No doubt the fraud Dodoro and the other fraud David King will still try to rewrite history. How they remain in a job astounds me.
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Postby Drake Huggins » Sun 08 Oct 2017 1:23pm

Has someone explained to King that we effectively got Carlisle AND Gresham for pick 5? Or does that still not register in the 4 neurons he possesses in that nest of vipers he calls a brain?
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Postby Linton Lodger » Sun 08 Oct 2017 1:29pm

Nice one :twisted: 8-) :twisted:
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Postby SaintPav » Sun 08 Oct 2017 1:36pm

Con Gorozidis wrote:Too early to call?
Bombers might get something ok for Francis still.


Perhaps but as it stands now, it’s a bust for them.

and

Francis hasn’t shown too much so they may not get much for him anyway and they’ll be lucky if they do.

Essendon are not in a strong bargaining position and will have to be happy with whatever they can get.
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Postby bergsone » Sun 08 Oct 2017 2:23pm

Lets hope we keep these bad trades coming
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Postby parkeysainter » Sun 08 Oct 2017 3:11pm

But I thought the Saints were terrible at recruitment, trading and drafting? :)
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Postby diddley » Sun 08 Oct 2017 3:44pm

Drake Huggins wrote:Has someone explained to King that we effectively got Carlisle AND Gresham for pick 5? Or does that still not register in the 4 neurons he possesses in that nest of vipers he calls a brain?

We actually gave up both 5 and 24 in the deal. Both first and second round picks to get Carlisle and pick 14, a late first round pick.
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Postby Sainter_Dad » Sun 08 Oct 2017 5:33pm

And to think that the rumour was that we would have taken the Gresh at 5 anyway (possibly supported by the fact that he wears our precious #4), means that Carlisle was effectively a freeby.
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Postby SaintPav » Sun 08 Oct 2017 5:45pm

Sainter_Dad wrote:And to think that the rumour was that we would have taken the Gresh at 5 anyway (possibly supported by the fact that he wears our precious #4), means that Carlisle was effectively a freeby.


Exactly!

Yep. Essendon messed up but they just can't face the truth.

After the fact, but Gresh is worth a pick 5.
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Postby Drake Huggins » Sun 08 Oct 2017 5:51pm

diddley wrote:
Drake Huggins wrote:Has someone explained to King that we effectively got Carlisle AND Gresham for pick 5? Or does that still not register in the 4 neurons he possesses in that nest of vipers he calls a brain?

We actually gave up both 5 and 24 in the deal. Both first and second round picks to get Carlisle and pick 14, a late first round pick.

You're right Diddley. We traded what ended up pick 29 for a kid from the Chargers called Alex Morgan. Still, the deal was a steal, all things considered. Francis Bird and Morgan have given the dopers nothing. Gresh and Carlisle are potentially elite. A win for us for once over Dildoro and the dopers, no matter which way you look at it. Morgan has had severe hamstring problems and has yet to play a game, and I'm told he could be delisted, Bird was always a dud who was the steak knives and Francis wants out. How sweet it is, Dildoro!
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Postby derby Street » Sun 08 Oct 2017 6:11pm

Con Gorozidis wrote:Too early to call?
Bombers might get something ok for Francis still.


You sound somewhat hopeful for the Bummers Con?
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Postby howlinwolf » Sun 08 Oct 2017 8:10pm

Drake Huggins wrote:Has someone explained to King that we effectively got Carlisle AND Gresham for pick 5? Or does that still not register in the 4 neurons he possesses in that nest of vipers he calls a brain?


He has had it explained to him ad finitum.
I reckon he does get it but it doesn't suit his version of the story. Read... I'm wrong.
So he continues on with his "Fractured Fairytales" and therefore loses credibility everytime it comes up. lol
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Postby Gordo' » Mon 09 Oct 2017 1:00am

howlinwolf wrote:So he continues on with his "Fractured Fairytales"

fractured flowering fairytales!?! ffs!!! i used to flowering love those cartoons. thanks for the reminder mate. :D

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Postby Captain Impossible » Mon 09 Oct 2017 1:17pm

I thought Essendon used our pick 5 on Darcy Parish?
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Postby degruch » Mon 09 Oct 2017 1:21pm

Captain Impossible wrote:I thought Essendon used our pick 5 on Darcy Parish?


They did...Francis was #6. However, our #5 became #6 because of a change in the draft order...can't remember why.
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Postby Captain Impossible » Mon 09 Oct 2017 1:50pm

degruch wrote:
Captain Impossible wrote:I thought Essendon used our pick 5 on Darcy Parish?


They did...Francis was #6. However, our #5 became #6 because of a change in the draft order...can't remember why.


Aha, thanks for clarifying.
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Postby Sainter_Dad » Mon 09 Oct 2017 2:19pm

degruch wrote:
Captain Impossible wrote:I thought Essendon used our pick 5 on Darcy Parish?


They did...Francis was #6. However, our #5 became #6 because of a change in the draft order...can't remember why.


No - no - no - no - no

Our pick 5 became pick 6 due to draft re-ordering (academy etc) Parish was always going with Essendons first pick (4 became 5) and Francis was the pick that we gave them - pick 6 (after adjustments for inflation - or whatever)

Essendon Pick 4 --> Pick 5 --> Darcy Parish
St Kilda Pick 5 --> Pick 6 --> Aaron Francis
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