Take a chill pill - trade period hasn't even started yet

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Take a chill pill - trade period hasn't even started yet

Post: # 1700061Post parkeysainter »

Lets just take a chill pill as the trade, FA and draft periods haven't even "started" yet before we rush to see any problems in what the club will or will not do or can or cannot get.

No one has a clue what the club has in the works and IMO, we're better placed then we have been in the past 5 years at this time of year. Our drafting and trading overall these past 5 years has been quite competent so I'm pretty sure the recruitment and list management staff will make some good calls again.

We missed out on Kelly and Martin with our massive so called war chest. We need to get over it. Although it would have been great to nab either, one player was never going to be the answer to all our problems. If the big dog or big fish FA doesn't want to move clubs then so be it...not much anyone can do about it. Same as for next year and 2019.

Let's just see what happens after the dust has settled. I'm personally confident. Show some patience my friends as the horses haven't even left the barriers yet.


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I agree that we have been very competent at recruitment over the last couple years, except for 2012, we ducked 2012 up, the only good thing we got in 2012 was Robbo


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Proph3t of egan wrote:I agree that we have been very competent at recruitment over the last couple years, except for 2012, we ducked 2012 up, the only good thing we got in 2012 was Robbo
Yeah. Make it 4 years and I just used 5 as a rough number. 2012 wasn't a great draft. Only N. Wright and Pierce remain from it which isn't great. And Hickey from trades.

Didn't Robbo get picked up at the end of 2011?


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parkeysainter wrote:
Proph3t of egan wrote:I agree that we have been very competent at recruitment over the last couple years, except for 2012, we ducked 2012 up, the only good thing we got in 2012 was Robbo
Yeah. Make it 4 years and I just used 5 as a rough number. 2012 wasn't a great draft. Only N. Wright and Pierce remain from it which isn't great. And Hickey from trades.

Didn't Robbo get picked up at the end of 2011?
Got picked up in the 2012 free agency period, but that's from Wikipedia, so trust at your own Peril


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You provide the pills...and I'll take them.

That's the motto that got me through Uni.


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fugazi wrote:You provide the pills...and I'll take them.

That's the motto that got me through Uni.
Bulldogs got plenty apparantly. :D


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Post: # 1700080Post Sainternist »

Since Kelly signed on with GWS, I haven't felt remotely excited. It'd be nice to feel pleasantly surprised after the trade period, however.


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Post: # 1700082Post MC Gusto »

Agree


A lot of water to pass under the bridge


We hold a very strong hand

Let's see how it plays out in a fortnight or so


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Post: # 1700093Post Spinner »

Agree - we do our business quietly. Surprises like Haw2017First and McEvoy.

Wish we were linked with more I.e like Devon Smith as per Steele last year.


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parkeysainter wrote:Lets just take a chill pill as the trade, FA and draft periods haven't even "started" yet .
Surely you jest?

It has been running pretty much the whole year and most of the best targets have already considered their options and said yes or no. So for many players, and probably the majority, the trade/draft/FA period has already finished.

To gwt some players you very much need to table your deal before their manager to try and tempt them to not re-sign.

However:
- We do not know all the outcomes yet
- Some deals may be contingent on other deals
- Some players are still deciding
- Some players suddenly surprise and become available. ie Stringer.


We do know that in effect that the trade and FA periods have well and truly started.


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Post: # 1700098Post Con Gorozidis »

There were fake ITKs on here claiming they had it confirmed that Kelly was signed sealed and delivered back in May.
People were claiming it was a done deal and hed bought a house in Elwood and blah blah bah.

The same was said about Fyfe and JOM.

Just such a crock of s***.


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saintsRrising wrote:
parkeysainter wrote:Lets just take a chill pill as the trade, FA and draft periods haven't even "started" yet .
Surely you jest?

It has been running pretty much the whole year and most of the best targets have already considered their options and said yes or no. So for many players, and probably the majority, the trade/draft/FA period has already finished.

To gwt some players you very much need to table your deal before their manager to try and tempt them to not re-sign.

However:
- We do not know all the outcomes yet
- Some deals may be contingent on other deals
- Some players are still deciding
- Some players suddenly surprise and become available. ie Stringer.


We do know that in effect that the trade and FA periods have well and truly started.
Nothing has officially started at all. Of course some stuff goes on in the background and that is modern day AFL.

The real s##t starts after the GF. As Con G said, alot of BS floats and has floated around.


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Post: # 1700119Post Jacks Back »

parkeysainter wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:
parkeysainter wrote:Lets just take a chill pill as the trade, FA and draft periods haven't even "started" yet .
Surely you jest?

It has been running pretty much the whole year and most of the best targets have already considered their options and said yes or no. So for many players, and probably the majority, the trade/draft/FA period has already finished.

To gwt some players you very much need to table your deal before their manager to try and tempt them to not re-sign.

However:
- We do not know all the outcomes yet
- Some deals may be contingent on other deals
- Some players are still deciding
- Some players suddenly surprise and become available. ie Stringer.


We do know that in effect that the trade and FA periods have well and truly started.
Nothing has officially started at all. Of course some stuff goes on in the background and that is modern day AFL.

The real s##t starts after the GF. As Con G said, alot of BS floats and has floated around.
There's more BS in here than a paddock full of bulls (or politicians for that matter)


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Post: # 1700156Post cwrcyn »

It's not the end of the world when you have picks 7 & 8 in the national draft.


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Post: # 1700169Post prwilkinson »

Yeah I'm pretty chill at this stage but once trade/draft period start I better see some decent f**king action... I'll be filthy if we top up on B - B+ players


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prwilkinson wrote:Yeah I'm pretty chill at this stage but once trade/draft period start I better see some decent f**king action... I'll be filthy if we top up on B - B+ players
Guess we'll see what happens. If there are no decent lamb chops on offer then the Saints recruiters might not even bother. I very much doubt that is the case though. Very sure there is plenty of juicy meat for us to eat this trade period.


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parkeysainter wrote:
prwilkinson wrote:Yeah I'm pretty chill at this stage but once trade/draft period start I better see some decent f**king action... I'll be filthy if we top up on B - B+ players
Guess we'll see what happens. If there are no decent lamb chops on offer then the Saints recruiters might not even bother. I very much doubt that is the case though. Very sure there is plenty of juicy meat for us to eat this trade period.
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parkeysainter wrote:
Nothing has officially started at all. Of course some stuff goes on in the background and that is modern day AFL.

The real s##t starts after the GF. As Con G said, alot of BS floats and has floated around.
After the GF? The best candidates are already gone.

After the GF we get to fight over the leftovers.


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We can only grab what is left from the FA side of things if we want it.

There are still contracted players probably available. Don't be suprised if the Saints are readying for this approach with our top 2 picks.


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parkeysainter wrote:We can only grab what is left from the FA side of things if we want it.

There are still contracted players probably available. Don't be suprised if the Saints are readying for this approach with our top 2 picks.
Why are we so desperate to offload our picks?

No trust in our own recruiters and development staff?


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Con Gorozidis wrote:
parkeysainter wrote:We can only grab what is left from the FA side of things if we want it.

There are still contracted players probably available. Don't be suprised if the Saints are readying for this approach with our top 2 picks.
Why are we so desperate to offload our picks?

No trust in our own recruiters and development staff?
1) Depends on the deal but I'm not personally desperate. If we get a good player or players then why not? Depends on what is involved.

2) I do trust our staff with 2 x top 10 picks


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