God it would be awesome if Paddy and Goddard had a good year. There is still plenty of time in their careers anyway but it would be nice to see them explode a bit next year. Along with D-Mac Dog. All from the same draft.Scollop wrote:Battle and Membrey in the midfield? Hickey at CHF? Coaches who think long term, plan to create a team with versatile players, and have strong leaders who can sell the message to the playing group have probably achieved half the battle. It's not just a matter of creating belief in the players minds, but you have to dare to be different and practise being bifferent. Which players are willing to sacrifice their personal game in the short term for the benefit of the team in the long term. Do we have leaders who are ambitious enough to be willing to forego a few stats for the sake of long term planning?stkfc1 wrote:I wouldnt mind seeing Paddy, HG and Freezer all tried up forward next year and using Bruce on a wing.
HF Freeman, HG, Billings
F Membrey, PM, Gresham
Bruce and HG to swap roles throughout the game giving us a decent marking target for kick outs. This also allows Membrey to actually play as a proper third tall instead of second and sometimes first. This means he'll sometimes get the third best defender so gets him off the chain.
Obviously forward pressure could be a problem with this line up but Freeman is quick and a pretty good tackler for his size. Gresh and Billings will only be stronger after another preseason. We could also rotate Freeman (slowly), Gresh and Billings into midfield. Dunstan, Steven, Acres to rest forward also as other options. Some new blood up forward may also help get over the yips.
Can Paddy be our Mitch McGovern? Can Jake Carlisle play more games as our go to FF? I think we are are more likely to succeed when the opportunity presents itself if we have a plan B, C and D. Coaches that play safe might actually make it to the big dance if they have a wealth of talent, but I reckon the Ross Lyons of the world will always come second because you know what to expect.
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Re: Goddard and Paddy ready for FULL pre-season
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That 2014 draft has delivered so little to date, it's probably why we stalled this year - we essentially got zero output from Paddy, Goddard and DMac, two first round picks and a high second round pick!! That's where more of the 'class' 'a grade talent'was supposed to come from that has been so constantly referred to as whats missing from our list. if we don't get more from this draft group next year, it will be bitterly dissapointing. Big guys take time for sure - but we are looking for meaningful contributions!! As for DMac, still big room for improvement and needs real belief and continuity!parkeysainter wrote:God it would be awesome if Paddy and Goddard had a good year. There is still plenty of time in their careers anyway but it would be nice to see them explode a bit next year. Along with D-Mac Dog. All from the same draft.Scollop wrote:Battle and Membrey in the midfield? Hickey at CHF? Coaches who think long term, plan to create a team with versatile players, and have strong leaders who can sell the message to the playing group have probably achieved half the battle. It's not just a matter of creating belief in the players minds, but you have to dare to be different and practise being bifferent. Which players are willing to sacrifice their personal game in the short term for the benefit of the team in the long term. Do we have leaders who are ambitious enough to be willing to forego a few stats for the sake of long term planning?stkfc1 wrote:I wouldnt mind seeing Paddy, HG and Freezer all tried up forward next year and using Bruce on a wing.
HF Freeman, HG, Billings
F Membrey, PM, Gresham
Bruce and HG to swap roles throughout the game giving us a decent marking target for kick outs. This also allows Membrey to actually play as a proper third tall instead of second and sometimes first. This means he'll sometimes get the third best defender so gets him off the chain.
Obviously forward pressure could be a problem with this line up but Freeman is quick and a pretty good tackler for his size. Gresh and Billings will only be stronger after another preseason. We could also rotate Freeman (slowly), Gresh and Billings into midfield. Dunstan, Steven, Acres to rest forward also as other options. Some new blood up forward may also help get over the yips.
Can Paddy be our Mitch McGovern? Can Jake Carlisle play more games as our go to FF? I think we are are more likely to succeed when the opportunity presents itself if we have a plan B, C and D. Coaches that play safe might actually make it to the big dance if they have a wealth of talent, but I reckon the Ross Lyons of the world will always come second because you know what to expect.
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Re: Goddard and Paddy ready for FULL pre-season
And the other guy from that 2014 draft is Jack Lone. So all four will need to really start showing they're worth their salt in 2018.Saint wagga wrote:That 2014 draft has delivered so little to date, it's probably why we stalled this year - we essentially got zero output from Paddy, Goddard and DMac, two first round picks and a high second round pick!! That's where more of the 'class' 'a grade talent'was supposed to come from that has been so constantly referred to as whats missing from our list. if we don't get more from this draft group next year, it will be bitterly dissapointing. Big guys take time for sure - but we are looking for meaningful contributions!! As for DMac, still big room for improvement and needs real belief and continuity!parkeysainter wrote:God it would be awesome if Paddy and Goddard had a good year. There is still plenty of time in their careers anyway but it would be nice to see them explode a bit next year. Along with D-Mac Dog. All from the same draft.Scollop wrote:Battle and Membrey in the midfield? Hickey at CHF? Coaches who think long term, plan to create a team with versatile players, and have strong leaders who can sell the message to the playing group have probably achieved half the battle. It's not just a matter of creating belief in the players minds, but you have to dare to be different and practise being bifferent. Which players are willing to sacrifice their personal game in the short term for the benefit of the team in the long term. Do we have leaders who are ambitious enough to be willing to forego a few stats for the sake of long term planning?stkfc1 wrote:I wouldnt mind seeing Paddy, HG and Freezer all tried up forward next year and using Bruce on a wing.
HF Freeman, HG, Billings
F Membrey, PM, Gresham
Bruce and HG to swap roles throughout the game giving us a decent marking target for kick outs. This also allows Membrey to actually play as a proper third tall instead of second and sometimes first. This means he'll sometimes get the third best defender so gets him off the chain.
Obviously forward pressure could be a problem with this line up but Freeman is quick and a pretty good tackler for his size. Gresh and Billings will only be stronger after another preseason. We could also rotate Freeman (slowly), Gresh and Billings into midfield. Dunstan, Steven, Acres to rest forward also as other options. Some new blood up forward may also help get over the yips.
Can Paddy be our Mitch McGovern? Can Jake Carlisle play more games as our go to FF? I think we are are more likely to succeed when the opportunity presents itself if we have a plan B, C and D. Coaches that play safe might actually make it to the big dance if they have a wealth of talent, but I reckon the Ross Lyons of the world will always come second because you know what to expect.
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Re: Goddard and Paddy ready for FULL pre-season
And don't forget Slaven or Bradbury.Scollop wrote:stkfc1 wrote:HG and Freezer all tried up forward next year...
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