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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby one point » Sun 10 Sep 2017 12:29am

A footy wise Director of coaching, together with some very good new assistant coaches and some excellent end of season trading. A great off season for the Tigers.
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby perfectionist » Sun 10 Sep 2017 9:29am

One Eyed Saint wrote:- Be patient
- Stick with your coach - hold your nerve
- if your game plan doesn't work, reflect, learn and adapt
- Recruit well - 3 key areas - speed, strength and skill
- Get your Admin rock solid - a tick here


- Play finals at home ground ( i.e. get MCG as home ground - our greatest mistake ever)
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby Enrico_Misso » Sun 10 Sep 2017 11:56am

Don't get ahead of yourself.
Misery awaits the Tigers in the Prelim.
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby The Fireman » Sun 10 Sep 2017 12:13pm

what can we learn from Sydney
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby dragit » Sun 10 Sep 2017 12:17pm

The Fireman wrote:what can we learn from Sydney

I've learnt that what seemed like an obscene deal is now close to unders for buddy only a few years later.

When you get a chance to take a top 10 player of the comp, you get it done.
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby GregPackhamsHeadband » Sun 10 Sep 2017 12:53pm

dragit wrote:
The Fireman wrote:what can we learn from Sydney

I've learnt that what seemed like an obscene deal is now close to unders for buddy only a few years later.

When you get a chance to take a top 10 player of the comp, you get it done.

Similar to Carlisle. At $500 K per year for five, he's looking like an absolute bargain now.
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby The Fireman » Sun 10 Sep 2017 2:06pm

GregPackhamsHeadband wrote:
dragit wrote:
The Fireman wrote:what can we learn from Sydney

I've learnt that what seemed like an obscene deal is now close to unders for buddy only a few years later.

When you get a chance to take a top 10 player of the comp, you get it done.

Similar to Carlisle. At $500 K per year for five, he's looking like an absolute bargain now.

no I'd like to learn more than that from Sydney , they are going to win the flag......Is longmire a brilliant coach ? how does he get his champion players to play the way they do ? I would like the Saints to be just like them.
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby MelbWest » Sun 10 Sep 2017 2:06pm

One Eyed Saint wrote:- Be patient
- Stick with your coach - hold your nerve
- if your game plan doesn't work, reflect, learn and adapt
- Recruit well - 3 key areas - speed, strength and skill
- Get your Admin rock solid - a tick here

If we can draft well in the next 1-2 years we are not far away from where Richmond are now.

Go Saints!!

The main think I have learnt from Richmond is if you are s*** for long enough the Draft will ensure that you come good. Melbourne are another prime example of this. This is why we should take picks 7 and 8 to the Draft. In 2001 we got Nicky Dal at pick 13. Lets back our recruiting team in and let them use 7 and 8 at the Draft.
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby Con Gorozidis » Sun 10 Sep 2017 2:23pm

MelbWest wrote:
One Eyed Saint wrote:- Be patient
- Stick with your coach - hold your nerve
- if your game plan doesn't work, reflect, learn and adapt
- Recruit well - 3 key areas - speed, strength and skill
- Get your Admin rock solid - a tick here

If we can draft well in the next 1-2 years we are not far away from where Richmond are now.

Go Saints!!

The main think I have learnt from Richmond is if you are s*** for long enough the Draft will ensure that you come good. Melbourne are another prime example of this. This is why we should take picks 7 and 8 to the Draft. In 2001 we got Nicky Dal at pick 13. Lets back our recruiting team in and let them use 7 and 8 at the Draft.


Have Richmond had that many good draft picks? They were 9th a lot.

Martin, Prestia and Cotchin are the only top ten picks on their list?
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby No Holds Bard » Tue 12 Sep 2017 12:47am

GregPackhamsHeadband wrote:I'd take the Bulldogs position any day. A flag, a flag, my kingdom for a flag!


I'd take ye Bulldogs position any day.
How bitter a thing it is to look into happiness through another team's eyes!
Everyone can master a grief but he that has it
For now is another winter of our discontent
When sorrows come, they come not single spies, but in battalions

Yet, love is blind, and lovers cannot see, (nor kick straight for yonder goal! :x )
I love this club, and willingly could waste my time in it
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Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow
For ever and a day
It is the cause!

A flag, a flag, my kingdom for a flag!
A bourse, a bourse for my kingdom to buy a flag!

O God of battles, Steele our players’ hearts
The Feast of St Kilda
It is the cause!

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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby GregPackhamsHeadband » Tue 12 Sep 2017 9:16am

No Holds Bard wrote:
GregPackhamsHeadband wrote:I'd take the Bulldogs position any day. A flag, a flag, my kingdom for a flag!


I'd take ye Bulldogs position any day.
How bitter a thing it is to look into happiness through another team's eyes!
Everyone can master a grief but he that has it
For now is another winter of our discontent
When sorrows come, they come not single spies, but in battalions

Yet, love is blind, and lovers cannot see, (nor kick straight for yonder goal! :x )
I love this club, and willingly could waste my time in it
This royal throne of kings, this sceptred aisle on the Moorabbin Wing…this blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this St Kilda!!!

Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow
For ever and a day
It is the cause!

A flag, a flag, my kingdom for a flag!
A bourse, a bourse for my kingdom to buy a flag!

O God of battles, Steele our players’ hearts
The Feast of St Kilda
It is the cause!

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Can one desire too much of a good thing?


Ladies and gentlemen, we have the clubhouse leader for the post of the year. Should we adopt this as our official war cry before each game? Absolute gold and sums up all the aspects of the St.Kilda experience. Who knew The Bard followed the saints? :D

PS: Mods, please make this a sticky!
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby dragit » Tue 12 Sep 2017 10:22am

Yep, 6 stickies is not nearly enough.

Kevin Bartlett talking about how we can help Geelong get through to make an all victorian grand final… good to see the tigers are already thinking about the grand final, they are destined to lose next week.
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby GregPackhamsHeadband » Tue 12 Sep 2017 11:19am

dragit wrote:Yep, 6 stickies is not nearly enough.

Kevin Bartlett talking about how we can help Geelong get through to make an all victorian grand final… good to see the tigers are already thinking about the grand final, they are destined to lose next week.


Always reward the exceptional, dragit! When too many great posts are not nearly enough!
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby dragit » Tue 12 Sep 2017 11:46am

trough.
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby stonecold » Tue 12 Sep 2017 3:58pm

Nothing, they will be out soon!!!!!
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby degruch » Tue 12 Sep 2017 11:29pm

I'm with Firey...screw the Tiges, the Bloods have done it tough this year and are looking pretty tasty right now. Maybe Colless was right to take aim at us for having no ticker (although he was wrong in regard to Lyon), because they certainly have it over there, and sadly we have lacked it this season in particular.
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby thejiggingsaint » Wed 13 Sep 2017 11:12am

Enrico_Misso wrote:Don't get ahead of yourself.
Misery awaits the Tigers in the Prelim.


Agree to disagree. The Tiger Army may be getting ahead of themselves, but the coach and playing group are focussed. Go Tigers! GO!
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby Con Gorozidis » Sat 23 Sep 2017 8:21pm

Bump.
Yes they kick well but dont tell me pace isnt important.
Tigers have pace to burn.

Playing off in both AFL and VFL grand Finals. So they are doing a lot right. This cant be a fluke.
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby saintsRrising » Sat 23 Sep 2017 8:25pm

One Eyed Saint wrote:-
- Stick with your coach - hold your nerve


Well if you look at their Football Department in totality they had massive change with Balme and new assistants all in.

So hold your nerve? No they did not. They faced up to making necessary and required changes and had a massive shake-up. You make required changes and do not accept an under-performing Football Department.

It is "pleasing"to me to see that Playfair is already one new experienced assisant coach. I am hoping for more.
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby Con Gorozidis » Sat 23 Sep 2017 8:47pm

saintsRrising wrote:
One Eyed Saint wrote:-
- Stick with your coach - hold your nerve


Well if you look at their Football Department in totality they had massive change with Balme and new assistants all in.

So hold your nerve? No they did not. They faced up to making necessary and required changes and had a massive shake-up. You make required changes and do not accept and under-performing Football Department.

It is "pleasing"to me to see that Playfair is already one new experienced assisant coach. I am hoping for more.


Agree. They had a full review. They beefed up their coaching staff. They changed footy mgr. They made huge changes.
They didnt just sit there doing nothing and keeping everything the same and being content.
The coach won 15 games in his 3rd season so he clearly had already shown himself to be competent.
They then bring Back Leppa and add McRae and Caracella.
Their fitness and conditioning staff must also be doing a lot right. They are fit and strong.
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby dragit » Sat 23 Sep 2017 9:23pm

Oh FFS, I am gutted that bog average sides are getting around playing in grand finals, instead of when we were peaking and the top 4 or so sides were flush with A graders.

I remember going to the 2007 GF where Geelong obliterated an absolutely bog average Port Adelaide... that's about the level of the tigers this year and the dogs last year, just perfect timing to be challenging.

I've said it before but let's not blueprint off these one hit wonder sides... odds are Richmond miss the finals next year regardless of what happens next week.

Broad, butler, Townsend, Ellis, vlaustin, graham, macintosh, Castagna, lambert, grimes, astbury... get f***ed.
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby Wayne42 » Sat 23 Sep 2017 9:25pm

chook23 wrote:
SaintPav wrote:Get a few decent assistant coaches.

Are Danny Sexton and Aaron Hamill up to it?


A few decent assistants have made a big difference at tigers...
In particular blake caracella
.......


has to be the real difference to the Tigers this year, coaches who know what they are doing.
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby saints66 » Sat 23 Sep 2017 9:37pm

Too many Saint supporters are happy to be passive thinkers rather than seeing the problems and being pro active in changing. Too many criticise the posters that question and label those as disloyal and ignorant. Too many want to fill the Club with ex St Kilda players as coaches and assistants in an effort to make us a weak feeble incestuous bunch of losers. Too many want to hang on to our list cloggers and see nothing in utilizing the talents from other Clubs that can be prised out because of salary cap pressures.

The Tigers went out and got what they wanted and have used their players to develop a solid unit even though they are far from perfect they have used their available talent as effectively as possible.
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby mr six o'clock » Sat 23 Sep 2017 9:53pm

The tigers have been successful this year because they've got the best player in the comp .
Rock solid A graders in rance down back , crotchin in the middle and Riewoldt up forward. The lesser lights are playing with confidence and they've been able to keep their best team on the park .
I don't think the saints can really learn anything from them as we have no A graders.
Hopefully next year some of our players can become that. Billings may be our best hope as many of our B graders have poor foot skills.
Until we have 3 or 4 A graders we won't seriously challenge for a flag.
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Re: What should we learn from the Tigers

Postby saints66 » Sat 23 Sep 2017 9:56pm

agree Mr 1800
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