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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby mad saint guy » Sat 09 Sep 2017 4:10am

If GWS are interested that would be ideal. Pick 7, our 2018 1st round pick and Lonie for Kelly and a 2nd/3rd round pick would be a great outcome.
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby MickThomas » Sat 09 Sep 2017 5:00am

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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby saintspremiers » Sat 09 Sep 2017 7:46am

Giving Lonie a one year contact is admitting we have no clue how to draft decent players outside the top ten.

Lonie will get delisted surely at the end of 2018. Good clubs don't hold onto players like him for four years in total who show nothing. But good clubs DO pick up players that can play in the draft that aren't first or early second round picks on a semi regular basis.
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby Junior » Sat 09 Sep 2017 8:35am

[quote="saintspremiers"]Giving Lonie a one year contact is admitting we have no clue how to draft decent players outside the top ten.

Lonie will get delisted surely at the end of 2018. Good clubs don't hold onto players like him for four years in total who show nothing. But good clubs DO pick up players that can play in the draft that aren't first or early second round picks on a semi regular

I think the following players have been good pick ups, am considering Seb a middle second round selection.

Jack Steven
Seb Ross
Leigh Montagna
Jarryn Geary
Jack Newnes
Jimmy Webster
Jack Sinclair


Rowan Marshall and Brandon White also look alright.

I would actually say our first round and early second rounds are the issue as they have not come on.

Dunstan appeared to have gone backwards until late in the season
Acres talent to burn but can't string any consistency together
Long has shown little
Goddard always injured and had gone backwards before injury
McCartin always injured
McKenzie hone backwards and looks like a dear caught in the headlights at AFL level


You just have to get these pick right and then get the odd player in the later rounds come through, as it stands on exposed form there is no guarantee that any of these players will be regular players let alone stars.


Not a Lonie fan and would not offer him a contract but maybe the club is thinking ahead and planning their list after all we have to make three changes every season.
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby SaintPav » Sat 09 Sep 2017 9:35am

Not saying Lonnie is going to make it but people around here very quick to write off players.

Need to get game time into guys like McKenzie and Long. The quicker we can them to 50 games the better.
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby DJ Higgins » Sat 09 Sep 2017 12:12pm

If you read the article it basically says he was offered one year by us and is looking to see if he can get a longer one elsewhere. He won't be but he may be added to any deal done with GWS so hopefully we can see the back of him. Best case scenario he trains his arse off pre season and become capable up forward but most likely he is a list clogger next year and is then delisted
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby spert » Sat 09 Sep 2017 12:51pm

I can't knock his effort at the contest- better than some in the seniors this season, but hasn't got the tricks a small needs, especially around goals.
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby freely » Sat 09 Sep 2017 2:50pm

bigred wrote:persevering with players like this is why we will never win a flag.

well, maybe or maybe not persevering with players like Lynch is why we will never win a flag.
Or maybe we will win a flag!
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby parkeysainter » Sat 09 Sep 2017 3:22pm

Whether Lonie stays or goes lets treat the kid with respect. There is no point in bagging him on the way out.
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby MickThomas » Sat 09 Sep 2017 3:31pm

DJ Higgins wrote:If you read the article it basically says he was offered one year by us and is looking to see if he can get a longer one elsewhere. He won't be but he may be added to any deal done with GWS so hopefully we can see the back of him. Best case scenario he trains his arse off pre season and become capable up forward but most likely he is a list clogger next year and is then delisted


He gets high numbers in the Zebs, why can't he take that or similar form into the seniors?
Presume he's fit enough and has correct judgement to assess the play and know how to rack up possessions,
so pre-season training?
What improvements can that bring?
He needs Peta Searle (Dev Coach) or another Dev Coach, or Dr Emma the shrink (helped Dunny)
to get inside his head.
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby thejiggingsaint » Sat 09 Sep 2017 3:53pm

parkeysainter wrote:Whether Lonie stays or goes lets treat the kid with respect. There is no point in bagging him on the way out.


Well said!

Jack Lonie has done nothing to merit some of the KRUD he has to cop from this forum, other than to "fall short of the expectations of some supporters"

Give the kid a break.
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby parkeysainter » Sat 09 Sep 2017 4:00pm

thejiggingsaint wrote:
parkeysainter wrote:Whether Lonie stays or goes lets treat the kid with respect. There is no point in bagging him on the way out.


Well said!

Jack Lonie has done nothing to merit some of the KRUD he has to cop from this forum, other than to "fall short of the expectations of some supporters"

Give the kid a break.


I don't get the personal abuse. He obviously tries his guts out like all the players do. I don't think any of us would know him from a bar of soap on a personal level also so its unfair.

If he's not up to it talent and ability wise and he gets delisted then so be it. Thats AFL footy. Lets just wish him well on his footy career or whatever he does. The kid is still a very young human being that sacrified his life to get drafted basically.
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby thejiggingsaint » Sat 09 Sep 2017 4:09pm

parkeysainter wrote:
thejiggingsaint wrote:
parkeysainter wrote:Whether Lonie stays or goes lets treat the kid with respect. There is no point in bagging him on the way out.


Well said!

Jack Lonie has done nothing to merit some of the KRUD he has to cop from this forum, other than to "fall short of the expectations of some supporters"

Give the kid a break.


I don't get the personal abuse. He obviously tries his guts out like all the players do. I don't think any of us would know him from a bar of soap on a personal level also so its unfair.

If he's not up to it talent and ability wise and he gets delisted then so be it. Thats AFL footy. Lets just wish him well on his footy career or whatever he does. The kid is still a very young human being that sacrified his life to get drafted basically.


Again, mate I agree with you 100%
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby silverhalo » Sat 09 Sep 2017 6:32pm

parkeysainter wrote:
thejiggingsaint wrote:
parkeysainter wrote:Whether Lonie stays or goes lets treat the kid with respect. There is no point in bagging him on the way out.


Well said!

Jack Lonie has done nothing to merit some of the KRUD he has to cop from this forum, other than to "fall short of the expectations of some supporters"

Give the kid a break.


I don't get the personal abuse. He obviously tries his guts out like all the players do. I don't think any of us would know him from a bar of soap on a personal level also so its unfair.

If he's not up to it talent and ability wise and he gets delisted then so be it. Thats AFL footy. Lets just wish him well on his footy career or whatever he does. The kid is still a very young human being that sacrified his life to get drafted basically.


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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby SemperFidelis » Sat 09 Sep 2017 6:39pm

silverhalo wrote:
parkeysainter wrote:
thejiggingsaint wrote:
parkeysainter wrote:Whether Lonie stays or goes lets treat the kid with respect. There is no point in bagging him on the way out.


Well said!

Jack Lonie has done nothing to merit some of the KRUD he has to cop from this forum, other than to "fall short of the expectations of some supporters"

Give the kid a break.


I don't get the personal abuse. He obviously tries his guts out like all the players do. I don't think any of us would know him from a bar of soap on a personal level also so its unfair.

If he's not up to it talent and ability wise and he gets delisted then so be it. Thats AFL footy. Lets just wish him well on his footy career or whatever he does. The kid is still a very young human being that sacrified his life to get drafted basically.


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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby bobmurray » Sat 09 Sep 2017 8:07pm

Has he gone yet.. :lol: :lol:
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby evo » Sat 09 Sep 2017 8:56pm

Minchington is way better than Lonie. My opinion only.
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby DJ Higgins » Sat 09 Sep 2017 9:00pm

MickThomas wrote:
DJ Higgins wrote:If you read the article it basically says he was offered one year by us and is looking to see if he can get a longer one elsewhere. He won't be but he may be added to any deal done with GWS so hopefully we can see the back of him. Best case scenario he trains his arse off pre season and become capable up forward but most likely he is a list clogger next year and is then delisted


He gets high numbers in the Zebs, why can't he take that or similar form into the seniors?
Presume he's fit enough and has correct judgement to assess the play and know how to rack up possessions,
so pre-season training?
What improvements can that bring?
He needs Peta Searle (Dev Coach) or another Dev Coach, or Dr Emma the shrink (helped Dunny)
to get inside his head.


I am hoping they teach him to tackle or put some bulk on his frame. How many times this year did he just get pushed aside as if he wasn't there. Again this is the only reason I can think of to be offered another year. I don't think he will make it personally as he just isn't afl quality or we can't bring it out in him. In all honesty do you think he has what it takes to play at the top level?
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby StPeter » Sat 09 Sep 2017 9:35pm

I hope some other club picks him up. I wouldn't like to see him take up a place for another year.


Will never make it in my opinion.
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby Bernard Shakey » Sat 09 Sep 2017 9:58pm

He's actually a very ordinary VFL player. Gets plenty of it, does nothing with it!
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby skeptic » Sat 09 Sep 2017 10:14pm

SaintPav wrote:Not saying Lonnie is going to make it but people around here very quick to write off players.

Need to get game time into guys like McKenzie and Long. The quicker we can them to 50 games the better.


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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby saints66 » Sat 09 Sep 2017 10:14pm

SaintPav wrote:Not saying Lonnie is going to make it but people around here very quick to write off players.

Need to get game time into guys like McKenzie and Long. The quicker we can them to 50 games the better.


and how do we do that if we constantly play players who are lacking. There is only 22 players!
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby The Recruit » Sun 10 Sep 2017 11:22am

He will be pushed out as our list improves

As I said he need to take the 1yr work hard and get better.

Just ask Roberton...now look at him

AFL footy is a very hard profession and only a minorty make it.
He will either step u and start kicking goals or just end up as another player who had a few good games and is now playing country footy..
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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby SaintPav » Sun 10 Sep 2017 11:51am

saints66 wrote:
SaintPav wrote:Not saying Lonnie is going to make it but people around here very quick to write off players.

Need to get game time into guys like McKenzie and Long. The quicker we can them to 50 games the better.


and how do we do that if we constantly play players who are lacking. There is only 22 players!


If they earn a spot, they play.

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Re: lonie considering other clubs

Postby Scollop » Sun 10 Sep 2017 4:44pm

evo wrote:Minchington is way better than Lonie. My opinion only.


A few of us agree with you. Meatball is a betterr player and I reckon Meatball has more upside
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