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Kelly is coming

Postby The Recruit » Tue 05 Sep 2017 11:48pm

Ok I am convinced Josh Kelly will be a saint in 2018 and the GWS know it.

Josh was asked to give the GWS an answer asap to help with their list management. Since then the GWS have signed a few players almost out of the blue but still no word on Kelly. Is this because Kelly has told the club he won't be returning in 2018? Too much of a coincidence for me.

The fact he hasn't resigned is also huge news. If Kelly was staying at GWS why before their finals campaign wouldn't have he signed and it been announced. Why would the Giants let this linger over finals series..?
They wouldn't and Josh wouldn't. If he was staying he would have signed.

Two things will happen, he will join the Blues or the Saints. If the Giants have to choose, they will trade with the saints, we have the biscuits. If Kelly isn't fussed between us or the Blues then Great news....my belief, the deal was done early this year.

Again do you think we will give him the number 12..?
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby jaxons » Tue 05 Sep 2017 11:52pm

Unfortunately Kelly is staying at GWS.
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby Con Gorozidis » Tue 05 Sep 2017 11:57pm

GWS said - we would like to know before finals.
His Mgr said - he will let you know when he is ready.
I doubt they bang on about it all the time.

GWS must be pretty well experienced in this stuff by now so I doubt they are panicking or forcing the issue.
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby Con Gorozidis » Tue 05 Sep 2017 11:58pm

jaxons wrote:Unfortunately Kelly is staying at GWS.


And there you have it.
The great man has returned!
All hail!
Jaxons, our one true messenger, has returned safely to the village!

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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby jaxons » Wed 06 Sep 2017 12:18am

Con Gorozidis wrote:
jaxons wrote:Unfortunately Kelly is staying at GWS.


And there you have it.
The great man has returned!
All hail!
Jaxons, our one true messenger, has returned safely to the village!

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Thanks Gora, I wish I had better news for you all.
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby magnifisaint » Wed 06 Sep 2017 12:33am

is anybody gonna knock on the door?
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby jonesy » Wed 06 Sep 2017 12:40am

jaxons wrote:Unfortunately Kelly is staying at GWS.

Stkilda has officially entered Death Valley then. A place no club wants to be, lingering between 7th and 14th for the next two decades.

Milney's bad bounce...
Bring back the Lockett era
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby magnifisaint » Wed 06 Sep 2017 12:45am

jonesy wrote:
jaxons wrote:Unfortunately Kelly is staying at GWS.

Stkilda has officially entered Death Valley then. A place no club wants to be, lingering between 7th and 14th for the next two decades.

Milney's bad bounce...

and the lotto numbers are?
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby jonesy » Wed 06 Sep 2017 12:47am

magnifisaint wrote:
jonesy wrote:
jaxons wrote:Unfortunately Kelly is staying at GWS.

Stkilda has officially entered Death Valley then. A place no club wants to be, lingering between 7th and 14th for the next two decades.

Milney's bad bounce...

and the lotto numbers are?

1 and 2 with a supp until 2033
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby SaintPav » Wed 06 Sep 2017 1:16am

The good news is at least he's not going to Carlton.
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby stkmo » Wed 06 Sep 2017 1:30am

jaxons wrote:Unfortunately Kelly is staying at GWS.


Hunch? Or has it been confirmed?

Disappointing if true.
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby Con Gorozidis » Wed 06 Sep 2017 1:37am

stkmo wrote:
jaxons wrote:Unfortunately Kelly is staying at GWS.


Hunch? Or has it been confirmed?

Disappointing if true.


Jaxons doesnt do hunches.

Why disappointing?

We were never in the running after such an inspid end to our season. Only a masochist with no ambition apart from making money would want to join our club.

Only got ourselves to blame.

If you were going to be disappointed - it should have been at half time of the Melbourne game.

Everything else was too late that after that.
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby Waltzing St Kilda » Wed 06 Sep 2017 5:05am

Con Gorozidis wrote:
stkmo wrote:
jaxons wrote:Unfortunately Kelly is staying at GWS.


Hunch? Or has it been confirmed?

Disappointing if true.


Jaxons doesnt do hunches.

Why disappointing?

We were never in the running after such an inspid end to our season. Only a masochist with no ambition apart from making money would want to join our club.

Only got ourselves to blame.

If you were going to be disappointed - it should have been at half time of the Melbourne game.

Everything else was too late that after that.


Well said.

We needed to establish our credentikals as a destination club.

And failed miserably.

Pathetic.
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby supersaints » Wed 06 Sep 2017 7:00am

Thanks Jaxons,
From my point of view, while I would have been happy to see him in Saints colors , we would probably have to pay overs and unbalance our whole salary cap for him.

So all of the " stars"out if contract that were supposed to be leaving ended up staying, as they usually do ( Danger was different in that he was going back to Moggs creek ) Happens every year. I think most of the time the managers are just trying to extract the best possible contract from their existing club ala Dustbin
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby Moods » Wed 06 Sep 2017 7:26am

supersaints wrote:Thanks Jaxons,
From my point of view, while I would have been happy to see him in Saints colors , we would probably have to pay overs and unbalance our whole salary cap for him.

So all of the " stars"out if contract that were supposed to be leaving ended up staying, as they usually do ( Danger was different in that he was going back to Moggs creek ) Happens every year. I think most of the time the managers are just trying to extract the best possible contract from their existing club ala Dustbin


Having said, because we have to pay 92% or whatever it is of the salary cap - we find that good-average footballers end up getting grossly overpaid. Case in point is Billings allegedly getting 500k a year when he signed on earlier in the year. Now I think he will be worth that money eventually - but not yet. The salary cap as a concept is fantastic, but it means that certain players in the best teams get grossly underpaid and players in the worst teams get grossly overpaid. How do teams like Carlton and Brisbane manage to pay over 90% of their salary cap to very ordinary footballers? The top 6 players in each team must be on ridiculous money comparative with their actual abilities.
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby CURLY » Wed 06 Sep 2017 8:18am

Con Gorozidis wrote:
stkmo wrote:
jaxons wrote:Unfortunately Kelly is staying at GWS.


Hunch? Or has it been confirmed?

Disappointing if true.


Jaxons doesnt do hunches.

Why disappointing?

We were never in the running after such an inspid end to our season. Only a masochist with no ambition apart from making money would want to join our club.

Only got ourselves to blame.

If you were going to be disappointed - it should have been at half time of the Melbourne game.

Everything else was too late that after that.


God you are a drama queen.
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby #gosaintas » Wed 06 Sep 2017 9:04am

Con Gorozidis wrote:
stkmo wrote:
jaxons wrote:Unfortunately Kelly is staying at GWS.


Hunch? Or has it been confirmed?

Disappointing if true.


Jaxons doesnt do hunches.

Why disappointing?

We were never in the running after such an inspid end to our season. Only a masochist with no ambition apart from making money would want to join our club.

Only got ourselves to blame.

If you were going to be disappointed - it should have been at half time of the Melbourne game.

Everything else was too late that after that.



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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby longtimesaint » Wed 06 Sep 2017 9:26am

Taking it at face value that Jaxons is ITK this could be a directive to take the pressure off Kelly at this time.
The old detecting motto is "Follow the money" and in this case the money is signing with GWS.
He hasn't signed and we continue to wonder why.
One year will be our year
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby Con Gorozidis » Wed 06 Sep 2017 9:31am

longtimesaint wrote:Taking it at face value that Jaxons is ITK this could be a directive to take the pressure off Kelly at this time.
The old detecting motto is "Follow the money" and in this case the money is signing with GWS.
He hasn't signed and we continue to wonder why.

I like your thinking.
But
Is he really under any pressure?
Media have lost interest in the story.
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby stonecold » Wed 06 Sep 2017 9:33am

So Jaxons is an ITK at GWS is he?????
'Cause StoneCold Said So'!!!!!
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby Devilhead » Wed 06 Sep 2017 10:00am

Does he need to be?????????
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby longtimesaint » Wed 06 Sep 2017 10:02am

stonecold wrote:So Jaxons is an ITK at GWS is he?????

He presumably is an ITK at Saints but you would think that if negotiations with Kelly are in process, only a very few inner circle people would know the details.
Possibly only Ameet, Richo and maybe Trout and the CEO.
Therefore he could be at the Saints but unlikely to be in the very closed group who really know.
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby stonecold » Wed 06 Sep 2017 10:20am

Devilhead wrote:Does he need to be?????????


Just a question there FireScone!!!!! Back up the truck!!!!!

He would need to either be very high up in one or the other club to know this for sure, not saying he isn't, just asking?????
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby Linton Lodger » Wed 06 Sep 2017 10:48am

jaxons wrote:Unfortunately Kelly is staying at GWS.


Just for clarity, is that an assessment of the situation or do you know something solid? Thanks.
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Re: Kelly is coming

Postby Linton Lodger » Wed 06 Sep 2017 10:55am

Con Gorozidis wrote:
stkmo wrote:
jaxons wrote:Unfortunately Kelly is staying at GWS.


Hunch? Or has it been confirmed?

Disappointing if true.


Jaxons doesnt do hunches.

Why disappointing?

We were never in the running after such an inspid end to our season. Only a masochist with no ambition apart from making money would want to join our club.

Only got ourselves to blame.

If you were going to be disappointed - it should have been at half time of the Melbourne game.

Everything else was too late that after that.


I doubt that Kelly's decision to stay put has anything to do with our season. In fact we are held in higher regard in the footy world than we are here.

The kid is taking a risk, he is betting GWS overcome their propensity to choke, lift their workrate substantially (particularly in their forward half) and that he's going to be worth more in 2 years. Not set in stone.
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