New stats and how we stack up

[shrodes]

I love stats
From here: https://onballers.com/2017/08/24/five-n ... m-in-2017/

Giveaway Rate

What it is: Clangers less free kicks against, divided by disposals
What it shows: how “clean” a player’s disposal is
What’s the average: 8.8% of disposals

Sam Gilbert in the top 5 worst for this stat

The five worst players on GR were: Dale Thomas (14.1%), Jayden Hunt (13.6%), David Mackay (13.6%), Will Langford (13.5%) and Sam Gilbert (13.5%).

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Around the Ground Work

What it is: My “groundball” metric standardised to the mean plus uncontested marks standardised to the mean, with a cap of 2 on the standardised score (I’ll explain this don’t worry…)
What it shows: by combining the number of times a player has won a loose or ground ball with the number of uncontested marks, I think it shows how hard a player works across the ground
What’s the average: Groundballs: 4.7 | Uncontested marks: 3.5

Nathan Brown and Billy Longer in the top 5 worst for this stat

Those at the bottom are key forwards, defenders and ruckmen: Nathan Brown (-2.56), Nathan Vardy (-2.52), Eric Hipwood (-2.34), Billy Longer (-2.29) and Will Hayward (-1.96).

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Tackle Rate

What it is: Tackles divided by disposals
What it shows: The extent to which the activities of a player are more defensively-oriented when they are around the ball
What’s the average: 0.174 (or one tackle laid for every 5.7 disposals)

Jack Steele in the top 5 best for this stat

third place Jack Steele is on 0.36 (2.75).

Should give everyone a bit more ammunition to love or hate on some of our players

[Proph3t of egan]

I'm more than happy for Nathan brown to have the lowest around the ground score, because if he's getting uncontested marks it means he is not doing his job

[stonecold]

Easy to hand pick stats to 'rate or not rate' a certain player/players, whilst leaving out other stats external stats never tell the story of whether or not is playing he's role for the team!!!!!

Internal 'not external' stats/Opinions are the ONLY ones that matter, just check the Coaches Votes/Club B&F if your unsure!!!!!

[Jacks Back]

Easy to hand pick stats to 'rate or not rate' a certain player/players, whilst leaving out other stats external stats never tell the story of whether or not is playing he's role for the team!!!!!

Internal 'not external' stats/Opinions are the ONLY ones that matter, just check the Coaches Votes/Club B&F if your unsure!!!!!

If Longer wins the Club B&F then we have got real problems! He might win the coaches encouragement award though.

[stonecold]

Easy to hand pick stats to 'rate or not rate' a certain player/players, whilst leaving out other stats external stats never tell the story of whether or not is playing he's role for the team!!!!!

Internal 'not external' stats/Opinions are the ONLY ones that matter, just check the Coaches Votes/Club B&F if your unsure!!!!!

If Longer wins the Club B&F then we have got real problems! He might win the coaches encouragement award though.

Where was it stated Billy would win the B&F and by whom?????

[Scollop]

I'm more than happy for Nathan brown to have the lowest around the ground score, because if he's getting uncontested marks it means he is not doing his job

So if his job is to defend, then why does he spectate instead of impacting a pack? I've seen Webster, Geary and Robbo doing it rather than the bigger bodied Brown. Last year it was Dempster and Chips and somehow we thought he'd be as good as those 2. He's not even close!! He allows opponents far too easy access at the footy. Why does he lose his man more often than not and allow easy goals? Why does he punch the ball back into the corridor instead of doing a 'golden fist' into the first row?

It's funny how the coaches will blurt out statistics to make a point and the 'numbers' usually do tell a story...but when the statistics highlight an unbiased fact, they quickly ignore them for their favoured players. Nathan Brown will not help St Kilda climb the ladder. He is a liability and we cannot afford to carry passengers if we want to become contenders.

[Con Gorozidis]

Easy to hand pick stats to 'rate or not rate' a certain player/players, whilst leaving out other stats external stats never tell the story of whether or not is playing he's role for the team!!!!!

Internal 'not external' stats/Opinions are the ONLY ones that matter, just check the Coaches Votes/Club B&F if your unsure!!!!!

This is ridiculous. Internal views are often affected by a multitude of biases.

http://io9.com/5974468/the-most-common- ... g-rational

[dragit]

Easy to hand pick stats to 'rate or not rate' a certain player/players, whilst leaving out other stats external stats never tell the story of whether or not is playing he's role for the team!!!!!

Internal 'not external' stats/Opinions are the ONLY ones that matter, just check the Coaches Votes/Club B&F if your unsure!!!!!

This is ridiculous. Internal views are often affected by a multitude of biases.

http://io9.com/5974468/the-most-common- ... g-rational

Yep mav is flying internally, could take out the B&F.

[ace]

I'm more than happy for Nathan brown to have the lowest around the ground score, because if he's getting uncontested marks it means he is not doing his job

Any examination of Nathan Brown's stats shows he hardy even getsany stats.
He is normally last in our AFL fantasy points.
But that is not his role.
His job is stopping the opposition full forward scoring goals at will, as happened in the past.
He has teammates whose job it is to clear the ball out of defence.