Seriously, were not ready for finals.

[St Loxton]

We are good when we dish out the pressure.
When we get pressured we don't have the composure.
Finals ARE pressure.
Elite talent have this composure.
We don't have enough elite talent.

We would be embarrassed playing finals this season.

We need a big November.

[carn_sainter]

Maybe. But it's better to regret something you did than something you didn't do.

Everyone wanted to play finals this year and we fell short. That's not the end of the world, it doesn't necessitate wholesale changes in and of itself, but it is failure.

[The OtherThommo]

Seriously?!?!

[St Loxton]

I have thought for a couple of years now that, with our young list, they need games together.
To build their own identity.
2018 is where I've thought it truly begins for us.
It really was a bit of a stretch to think our ageing champs ( Roo, Joey Chips and Dempster ) would be there when we were up to seriously challenging again.

We know where our team is at now. And what we need.

Open the war chest, negotiate our picks well. And cut some dead wood.

[Con Gorozidis]

We have serious problems that cannot be ignored.

Only GWS (4), Eagles (4) and Adelaide (5) had less players with < 50 games experience this week.

I don't mind being 11th if we are a developing side. I also understand being young doesnt mean you are going to be good. You could just have bad kids on your list. A young list is no guarantee of future success.

But we are stuck in no-man's land. Our list Mgt is a shambles.

[thejiggingsaint]

We are good when we dish out the pressure.
When we get pressured we don't have the composure.
Finals ARE pressure.
Elite talent have this composure.
We don't have enough elite talent.

We would be embarrassed playing finals this season.

We need a big November.

Thanks for that mate ( thumbs up emoticon ) have some medicinal compound !

[To the top]

Given the presentation that it is 2019/2020 that we are aiming at, who from today's 22 will be in that 2019/2020 side and which players on our List but not available today will be joining them?

My view is that we need to move on from good honest players and Zone contributors

[St Loxton]

Given the presentation that it is 2019/2020 that we are aiming at, who from today's 22 will be in that 2019/2020 side and which players on our List but not available today will be joining them?

My view is that we need to move on from good honest players and Zone contributors

Billings
Dunstan
Roberton
Ross
Steele
Sinclair
Gresham
Newnes
Carlisle
Membery
Stevens
Geary
Steven
Bruce
Acres
White
Webster

Freeman
McCartin
Battle
Marshall
Long

Thats all the current players i think will be there then.

Plus the next 2 draft and trade periods.

[Bernard Shakey]

Given the presentation that it is 2019/2020 that we are aiming at, who from today's 22 will be in that 2019/2020 side and which players on our List but not available today will be joining them?

My view is that we need to move on from good honest players and Zone contributors

Billings
Dunstan
Roberton
Ross
Steele
Sinclair
Gresham
Newnes
Carlisle
Membery
Stevens
Geary
Steven
Bruce
Acres
White

Freeman
McCartin
Battle
Marshall
Long

Thats all the current players i think will be there then.

Plus the next 2 draft and trade periods.

You're probably spot on there!

[Devilhead]

We need an injection of class

Kelly will help .... If he comes

Rice if he continues to develop is a great kick

If we have draft picks to use then it should be all about skill factor

We have a young side and they have played well in bursts this season but the line is now drawn and no excuses next year

Massive trade period coming up and we are minted - question is who wants to come?

[older saint]

Given the presentation that it is 2019/2020 that we are aiming at, who from today's 22 will be in that 2019/2020 side and which players on our List but not available today will be joining them?

My view is that we need to move on from good honest players and Zone contributors

Billings
Dunstan
Roberton
Ross
Steele
Sinclair
Gresham
Newnes
Carlisle
Membery
Stevens
Geary
Steven
Bruce
Acres
White

Freeman
McCartin
Battle
Marshall
Long

Thats all the current players i think will be there then.

Plus the next 2 draft and trade periods.

No ruckman? Considering ruckman don't really provide value until they are around 27+ i would think either Longer or Hickey (or both) would be on the list based on your preference .

[Yorkeys]

Saint Loxton - 2019, @ Chloe's bar Y & Js or the new Moorabbin bar if you prefer: if Stevens, Steele and Acres are first picks in the team that year name what you like from the top shelf. I'll buy - even though I lost on Mav for the first goal today (there was no first turnover option). Other than those few nit picks I nominate you as Riverland recruiter of the year.

[St Loxton]

Given the presentation that it is 2019/2020 that we are aiming at, who from today's 22 will be in that 2019/2020 side and which players on our List but not available today will be joining them?

My view is that we need to move on from good honest players and Zone contributors

Billings
Dunstan
Roberton
Ross
Steele
Sinclair
Gresham
Newnes
Carlisle
Membery
Stevens
Geary
Steven
Bruce
Acres
White

Freeman
McCartin
Battle
Marshall
Long

Thats all the current players i think will be there then.

Plus the next 2 draft and trade periods.

No ruckman? Considering ruckman don't really provide value until they are around 27+ i would think either Longer or Hickey (or both) would be on the list based on your preference .

Im just not sure any of the ruckman we have are guaranteed to be there in 2 seasons. Longer is a trier, and has got better. Hickey has really faded, and maybe he can get back to circa 2016.
Both of them won't be there 2019

We must look elsewhere IMO.

[Teflon]

Given the presentation that it is 2019/2020 that we are aiming at, who from today's 22 will be in that 2019/2020 side and which players on our List but not available today will be joining them?

My view is that we need to move on from good honest players and Zone contributors

Billings
Dunstan
Roberton
Ross
Steele
Sinclair
Gresham
Newnes
Carlisle
Membery
Stevens
Geary
Steven
Bruce
Acres
White

Freeman
McCartin
Battle
Marshall
Long

Thats all the current players i think will be there then.

Plus the next 2 draft and trade periods.

Good list

[St Loxton]

Saint Loxton - 2019, @ Chloe's bar Y & Js or the new Moorabbin bar if you prefer: if Stevens, Steele and Acres are first picks in the team that year name what you like from the top shelf. I'll buy - even though I lost on Mav for the first goal today (there was no first turnover option). Other than those few nit picks I nominate you as Riverland recruiter of the year.

Well reckon if Steele and Acres keep on there upward trend, they will both be top 10 players in our club.
Jacky boy Stevens is a certainty to be there, a real club gun.

[saintspremiers]

Whilst we would get done in a finals game I'd prefer that this year to missing out completely

WAY better scenario. The experience would be invaluable

[Jacks Back]

Given the presentation that it is 2019/2020 that we are aiming at, who from today's 22 will be in that 2019/2020 side and which players on our List but not available today will be joining them?

My view is that we need to move on from good honest players and Zone contributors

Billings
Dunstan
Roberton
Ross
Steele
Sinclair
Gresham
Newnes
Carlisle
Membery
Stevens
Geary
Steven
Bruce
Acres
White

Freeman
McCartin
Battle
Marshall
Long

Thats all the current players i think will be there then.

Plus the next 2 draft and trade periods.

Good list

Not sure about Bruce as the full forward. Circa 2015 maybe but he's really faded. Good honest triers are just not good enough moving forward. Plus the sooner we replace Brown the better - He doesn't contribute anything.