Why do we keep getting thrashed?

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Re: Why do we keep getting thrashed?

Postby Scollop » Sun 16 Jul 2017 7:18pm

thejiggingsaint wrote:Maybe, it's me, but I'm of the opinion that this season, we've not had any floggings on the scale of last season (100 points at West Coast, 88 at Port Adelaide) In the context of a VERY open comp in 2017, our losses are about par for the course.


So you're saying we are not mortally wounded right? In your eyes it's just a 'flesh wound' :lol: :lol:
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Re: Why do we keep getting thrashed?

Postby thejiggingsaint » Sun 16 Jul 2017 7:20pm

Errrrrrrrrr? ......... Well?....... YES!
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Re: Why do we keep getting thrashed?

Postby Scollop » Sun 16 Jul 2017 7:32pm

So we're still a contender?
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Re: Why do we keep getting thrashed?

Postby Sainternist » Sun 16 Jul 2017 9:53pm

If we are to lose the next two games, I hope we at least go down swinging. WW has definitely brought up a valid area of concern. Heavy losses never look good, nor do they do the percentage any good. Our low percentage could really come back to haunt us by the end of the home and away season.
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Re: Why do we keep getting thrashed?

Postby stonecold » Sun 16 Jul 2017 10:00pm

Scollop wrote:So we're still a contender?



Most teams still are this season, anything is possible at this stage!!!!!!!
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Re: Why do we keep getting thrashed?

Postby Con Gorozidis » Mon 17 Jul 2017 12:06am

When we got thrashed by the Bulldogs - they were last year's Premier so fair enough. Dont worry.
Thrashed by Swans - last year's Grand finalist! Top side. Dont worry.
Thrashed by the Crows - top side! Dont worry.
Scrape over Blues. They are 16th but really they are a great side! Dont worry.
Thrashed by Bombers. They are a great side playing incredible footy! Dont worry.

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Re: Why do we keep getting thrashed?

Postby skeptic » Mon 17 Jul 2017 12:22am

I hate it when you're on this war path Con,

I don't think anybody has ever said losing those games in that manner was ok or not a cause for concern. Heck this site goes into melt down post every loss
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Re: Why do we keep getting thrashed?

Postby Sainternist » Mon 17 Jul 2017 1:07am

skeptic wrote:I hate it when you're on this war path Con,

I don't think anybody has ever said losing those games in that manner was ok or not a cause for concern. Heck this site goes into melt down post every loss


+1

You'd think with our history of losing we would have learnt to treat it with some humility, wouldn't you?
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Re: Why do we keep getting thrashed?

Postby satchmo » Mon 17 Jul 2017 8:52am

skeptic wrote:I hate it when you're on this war path Con,

I don't think anybody has ever said losing those games in that manner was ok or not a cause for concern. Heck this site goes into melt down post every loss

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Re: Why do we keep getting thrashed?

Postby saintspremiers » Mon 17 Jul 2017 11:17am

thejiggingsaint wrote:Maybe, it's me, but I'm of the opinion that this season, we've not had any floggings on the scale of last season (100 points at West Coast, 88 at Port Adelaide) In the context of a VERY open comp in 2017, our losses are about par for the course.


Wow.

So your comfortable with an average losing margin of 42 points?

Only one of our losses (WCE) we have been competitive?

Nup, not me.

Sure, I don't expect every loss to be small ones, but I DO expect more than one out of seven.
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Re: Why do we keep getting thrashed?

Postby Sainternist » Mon 17 Jul 2017 2:04pm

satchmo wrote:
skeptic wrote:I hate it when you're on this war path Con,

I don't think anybody has ever said losing those games in that manner was ok or not a cause for concern. Heck this site goes into melt down post every loss

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Re: Why do we keep getting thrashed?

Postby thefatdork » Mon 17 Jul 2017 2:55pm

Hi All,
i always try look to the positives when we lose but I've been troubled about how we lose so badly.
I can't help thinking that this is a coaching issue - we seem to be unable to implement game plan change when we are being badly beaten and end up getting really flogged.
The game against the Bombers epitomised this for me - we continually bombed it into forward 50 when the bombers had numbers back and then they easily cleared it to their runners. Surely the plan needs to change - perhaps hold possession of the ball and show some patience rather than bomb it in and hope that we'll get on the end of it. At least if we have possession, then the opposition doesn't - but we need to be able to also hang on to the ball and stop turning it over cheaply. Our skills are problematic.
I like Richo as a coach but he seems to be at a loss to stem the tide when things are going badly. I think genuinely good sides are usually able to do this - they generally don't get smashed each loss.
I know we are a young side and I'm sure having experienced players have a role in this too - we've got that experience in Gears, Rooney, Joey, etc. - but the coaching needs to have plans and be able to implement changes in these circumstances.
I hate losing but i REALLY hate capitulating in the way we do - it's not only embarrassing but is also such a huge let-down and deflates the spirit. We must do better than this if we are to become a good side.
Anyway, back to positive thinking and let's hope we can show Sydney up.
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Re: Why do we keep getting thrashed?

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Re: Why do we keep getting thrashed?

Postby lefty » Mon 17 Jul 2017 8:44pm

Great topic, and yes its very very frustrating.

I mean, that Adelaide game was definitely coaching that caused it. We had flooded in the first quarter and never looked like even wanting to win.

The Essendon game, the only change I saw was Carlisle move up forward, and honestly if it wasn't for him, we would of lost by 100. Continuously bombing the ball into the forward line doesn't work, when...

1. Roo can't jump and mark like he use to
2. Bruce can't seem to take a mark or pack grab anymore
3. We lost our only dangerous forward in Membrey
4. Can't rely on Battle in his first game

Essendon no doubt at all, had the better game plan.
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Re: Why do we keep getting thrashed?

Postby Jacks Back » Mon 17 Jul 2017 11:35pm

Con Gorozidis wrote:When we got thrashed by the Bulldogs - they were last year's Premier so fair enough. Dont worry.
Thrashed by Swans - last year's Grand finalist! Top side. Dont worry.
Thrashed by the Crows - top side! Dont worry.
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Thrashed by Bombers. They are a great side playing incredible footy! Dont worry.

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