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What he said

Post: # 1684148Post The OtherThommo »

Roo, that is, on 7 yesdee morn.

Inevitably the conversion got around to whether he and Joey would go on next year. Standard answers, as you would expect.

But, he did note something I've been bangin' on about for a while. While he was talking about Joey's form, in the context of his value to the club, he noted Joey had a very important other role:

'On field coaching', a la Luke Hodge at the Dorks.

Roo didn't frame it in the 'all leaders have to ensure the coach is supported on field' context. He was far more specific. And, I've thought for some time Joey's on field coaching role is similar to Hodge's - it's not the 'give more effort' type, it's about how we organise and execute the way we play e.g. where to go, when, and what to do when you get there. It takes someone with real game sense and a cool head.

Apart from that aspect, Joey's been more than solid. Top 3 average disposals and kicks, disposal efficiency Top 6, and just a tick under 80%.

All up, stay on Joey.


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Post: # 1684150Post Enrico_Misso »

+1
Still has the quickest hands at the club.


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Post: # 1684154Post longtimesaint »

Let's face it we only have three veterans in Roo, Joey and Gilbert and all have been having god seasons.
I think that creates a good balance and still leaves 19 places for the younger players.
I think it would be a mistake to lose these players for next year.


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longtimesaint wrote:Let's face it we only have three veterans in Roo, Joey and Gilbert and all have been having god seasons.
Does that make it the Holy Trinity?


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Sainter_Dad wrote:
longtimesaint wrote:Let's face it we only have three veterans in Roo, Joey and Gilbert and all have been having god seasons.
Does that make it the Holy Trinity?
Maybe the Three Wise Men?


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saintsRrising wrote:
Sainter_Dad wrote:
longtimesaint wrote:Let's face it we only have three veterans in Roo, Joey and Gilbert and all have been having god seasons.
Does that make it the Holy Trinity?
Maybe the Three Wise Men?
No definitely The Holy Trinity if they have been having GOD seasons.
longtimesaint wrote:... having god seasons.


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Post: # 1684204Post Joffa Burns »

Can't deny the stats but I thought he hadn't been as hard at the contest in the first half of the season as he was in his prime.
Then Dermie shirt fronted him and I think it did him the world of good.

He's been excellent since then, so thanks Derm if you helped fire him up.


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Post: # 1684227Post sunsaint »

those that can Do
those that cant Coach - flap their arms about, and frown sternly (BJGoddard anyone?)


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Post: # 1684234Post longtimesaint »

Sainter_Dad wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:
Sainter_Dad wrote:
longtimesaint wrote:Let's face it we only have three veterans in Roo, Joey and Gilbert and all have been having god seasons.
Does that make it the Holy Trinity?
Maybe the Three Wise Men?
No definitely The Holy Trinity if they have been having GOD seasons.
longtimesaint wrote:... having god seasons.
Sorry missed an o
Amazing how one letter changes it


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Post: # 1684256Post Joffa Burns »

sunsaint wrote:those that can Do
those that cant Coach - flap their arms about, and frown sternly (BJGoddard anyone?)
What about huffing & puffing and flaring nostrils?

Anyone fit that bill?


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Post: # 1684257Post bigcarl »

saintsRrising wrote:
Sainter_Dad wrote:
longtimesaint wrote:Let's face it we only have three veterans in Roo, Joey and Gilbert and all have been having god seasons.
Does that make it the Holy Trinity?
Maybe the Three Wise Men?
Two wise men ... and Gilbo


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Post: # 1684258Post mr six o'clock »

saintsRrising wrote:
Sainter_Dad wrote:
longtimesaint wrote:Let's face it we only have three veterans in Roo, Joey and Gilbert and all have been having god seasons.
Does that make it the Holy Trinity?
Maybe the Three Wise Men?
What !
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Post: # 1684260Post mr six o'clock »

Luke Hodge is now available .

We ought to be making him a big offer to be an assistant coach .


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Post: # 1684289Post carn_sainter »

Gilbo is definitely the Holy Spirit. Roo - the Father - is understandable. That's a concept everyone gets. Joey - the Son - is also fairly intelligible to most people, no matter their level of theism. But the Holy Spirit? That doesn't make sense to anybody!

Only the Holy Spirit - incomprehensible as it is - could make an impossible spoil, follow up with a team-lifting tackle in a transcendent second effort, win a free kick and then kick it directly back to the opposition. Nobody can understand the Holy Spirit.


He has had an excellent season Gilbert. Possibly top 5 B&F at the moment. Impresses no end live at the game.


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Post: # 1684430Post The OtherThommo »

Terrific interview with Hodge 'on the couch' last eve, with much insight into that on field coaching role that Joey does with us.


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Post: # 1684473Post damienc »

The OtherThommo wrote:Roo, that is, on 7 yesdee morn.

Inevitably the conversion got around to whether he and Joey would go on next year. Standard answers, as you would expect.

But, he did note something I've been bangin' on about for a while. While he was talking about Joey's form, in the context of his value to the club, he noted Joey had a very important other role:

'On field coaching', a la Luke Hodge at the Dorks.

Roo didn't frame it in the 'all leaders have to ensure the coach is supported on field' context. He was far more specific. And, I've thought for some time Joey's on field coaching role is similar to Hodge's - it's not the 'give more effort' type, it's about how we organise and execute the way we play e.g. where to go, when, and what to do when you get there. It takes someone with real game sense and a cool head.

Apart from that aspect, Joey's been more than solid. Top 3 average disposals and kicks, disposal efficiency Top 6, and just a tick under 80%.

All up, stay on Joey.

Sorry, but I totally disagree with just about everything you say.

Joey has been an integral part of the St Kilda furniture but his time will come as it does for all great warriors and it will be at the end of 2017.

Actually, can I take back part of everything you say.

Joey's on field coaching. You are right about that IMO. He's been great at mentoring the up and coming and I see no reason why he can't keep doing that, but off the field.

We have some pretty decent, ready made replacements in White and Rice who need to be given game time and that is very unlikely to happen if Joey continues playing.

The club will make a call on his future and I think it will be the right call when they tell him it's time to hang up the boots.

That's what I think anyhoo.


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