How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

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How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

Post: # 1682901Post Joffa Burns »

Yes Houli ended up with 4 after AFL appeal.
But the tribunal issued 6 to Bugg and 2 to Houli.
Both looked similar to me.
Both players hit concussed and similar outcome.
Were is the consistency?


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Re: How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

Post: # 1682903Post longtimesaint »

The 2 weeks for Houli was obviously wrong and I think they were influenced by the character references.
The Bugg incident was considerably worse as it was not in play and Bugg was facing a stationary opponent and landed a deliberate punch to the head.
6 weeks is a fair penalty.


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Re: How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

Post: # 1682906Post Darth Vader »

Pretty obvious I would've thought. Tribunal got all wet in the knickers over Wally and the PM, then saw the results of the appeal and the sensible public reaction, learned from their mistake and altered accordingly.


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Re: How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

Post: # 1682915Post Jacks Back »

I think Bugg may have got a character reference from Paul Roos. You can't win them all.


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Re: How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

Post: # 1682920Post Bernard Shakey »

Hoult swung an arm behind him and collected a bloke in the head without looking.
Bug looked a bloke in the eye and punched him in the jaw with a clenched fist.

Two completely different scenarios!


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Re: How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

Post: # 1682940Post kosifantutti »

Joffa Burns wrote:Yes Houli ended up with 4 after AFL appeal.
But the tribunal issued 6 to Bugg and 2 to Houli.
Both looked similar to me.
Both players hit concussed and similar outcome.
Were is the consistency?
How many weeks do you think Bugg should have got?


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Re: How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

Post: # 1682945Post supersaints »

I bet bug got a spray from the coach


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Re: How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

Post: # 1682947Post Joffa Burns »

kosifantutti wrote:
Joffa Burns wrote:Yes Houli ended up with 4 after AFL appeal.
But the tribunal issued 6 to Bugg and 2 to Houli.
Both looked similar to me.
Both players hit concussed and similar outcome.
Were is the consistency?
How many weeks do you think Bugg should have got?
I think Bugg's penalty was appropriate, Houli to me was lucky to get 4 with the original 2 a joke.


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Re: How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

Post: # 1682949Post meher baba »

Bernard Shakey wrote:Hoult swung an arm behind him and collected a bloke in the head without looking.
Bug looked a bloke in the eye and punched him in the jaw with a clenched fist.

Two completely different scenarios!
This: the incidents were nothing like each other: Bugg's was 100% intentional and Houli's was a case of lashing out when he was being held. I've got absolutely no idea what the OP was on about.

And I feel a bit sorry for Houli: if the tribunal had given him two or three just on the basis of their assessment of the severity of the incident, and not allowed the whole silly character reference thing, the penalty probably would have been allowed to stand. But then there was an appeal by the AFL (against its own tribunal: how weird is that?) and the penalty was increased.

I reckon the whole tribunal system is a joke ATM. I reckon everything should go straight to the tribunal and there should be no appeals. And no lawyers involved. Sure there would be some decisions that everyone would complain about, but it would be a straightforward system.


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Re: How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

Post: # 1682952Post St Chris »

Bugg would have got 4 if the Houli incident didn't happen - the tribunal were made to look like fools a week ago and adjusted their decision accordingly.


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Re: How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

Post: # 1682971Post Enrico_Misso »

Was interested to see that great Visy man Chris Judd saying it is time to introduce a red card system.
But Juddy didn't say if it should apply to eye-gougers and chicken wing tackles!


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Re: How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

Post: # 1682973Post kp83 »

I can't believe the major consensus is that 6 weeks (from the media) was the right penalty.

For me, punching a bloke in the head in a game of footy should carry a massive penalty. Like 10-12 weeks minimum. Or more. It's an absolute dog act and has no place in footy.

Unfortunately the precedence was set with Barry Hall. He only got 8 weeks for his hit when it should have been the rest of the season. He and Bugg could have killed the guys they hit. Seriously. 6 weeks is not enough.

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Re: How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

Post: # 1682993Post Joffa Burns »

kp83 wrote:I can't believe the major consensus is that 6 weeks (from the media) was the right penalty.

For me, punching a bloke in the head in a game of footy should carry a massive penalty. Like 10-12 weeks minimum. Or more. It's an absolute dog act and has no place in footy.

Unfortunately the precedence was set with Barry Hall. He only got 8 weeks for his hit when it should have been the rest of the season. He and Bugg could have killed the guys they hit. Seriously. 6 weeks is not enough.

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Some pretty valid points made here.
Perhaps 6 weeks is light given the act and injury sustained.

Still think Houli got off very lightly as he turns to look at the opponent before delivering the blow.


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Re: How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

Post: # 1682995Post meher baba »

kp83 wrote:Unfortunately the precedence was set with Barry Hall. He only got 8 weeks for his hit when it should have been the rest of the season.
8 weeks was far more appropriate than what he got for punching Maguire in the stomach in the 2005 PF.

I think 6 weeks is a pretty severe penalty on the basis of what has been given out in recent years: Hall's 8 weeks was a long time ago. In reality, I doubt that we'll see Bugg again this season, and possibly never: he was a bit of a fringe player anyway, and his idiotic punch greatly damaged his club's public reputation and put his team so heavily on the back foot early in the game that they couldn't come back.


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Re: How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

Post: # 1683118Post perfectionist »

How come Tom Bugg isn't being called a coward in the Murdoch Fascist Media, hasn't lost his job and isn't being investigated by the police for assault?


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Re: How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

Post: # 1683125Post Sainternist »

Simple - Bugg didn't have a character reference from the PM.


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Re: How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

Post: # 1683147Post Proph3t of egan »

Sainternist wrote:Simple - Bugg didn't have a character reference from the PM.
Even simpler, Bugg is a s*** bloke, and doesn't do PR work as the face of multiculturalism in AFL


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Re: How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

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Well that didn't happen. I don't even get the heading


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Re: How does Bugg get 6 weeks and Houli 2?

Post: # 1683220Post perfectionist »

Ellaandjohn wrote:Well that didn't happen. I don't even get the heading



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It's a race hate heading. There is no point trying to understand it.


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