Why no 50 m penalty to Gresham?

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Why no 50 m penalty to Gresham?

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Am I the only one that is wondering why the umpire missed paying a super obvious 50m penalty to Gresham at a vital stage of the game?

ie At half forward, Gresham near the boundary from just outside of the 50 m line (immediately below where I was sitting) and as Gresham prepares to take his kick Macrae (11) trots across between Gresham and the player on the mark from the boundary line to the field of play.

Umpire right there. But no 50m? WTF. Has the rule changed?

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Re: Why no 50 m penalty to Gresham?

Post: # 1674021Post ChrisRyanSaints »

There were soo many

- why not dropping the ball in centre? Or any one of the multiple holding the balls????


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Re: Why no 50 m penalty to Gresham?

Post: # 1674023Post WellardSaint »

because Doggies are a protected species?


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Re: Why no 50 m penalty to Gresham?

Post: # 1674028Post CURLY »

Why didn't they pay that contested mark to Paddy? Clear mark paid 99.9 % of the time.


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CURLY wrote:Why didn't they pay that contested mark to Paddy? Clear mark paid 99.9 % of the time.
which one?


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saintsRrising wrote:Am I the only one that is wondering why the umpire missed paying a super obvious 50m penalty to Gresham at a vital stage of the game?

ie At half forward, Gresham near the boundary from just outside of the 50 m line (immediately below where I was sitting) and as Gresham prepares to take his kick Macrae (11) trots across between Gresham and the player on the mark from the boundary line to the field of play.

Umpire right there. But no 50m? WTF. Has the rule changed?

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Must have been sitting near you.

Bad miss by the umpire.

Terrible mistake


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Re: Why no 50 m penalty to Gresham?

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Because he was following Jack Billings through and time off had been blown. Did not deviate from following Billings


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Re: Why no 50 m penalty to Gresham?

Post: # 1674038Post George27 »

saintsRrising wrote:Am I the only one that is wondering why the umpire missed paying a super obvious 50m penalty to Gresham at a vital stage of the game?

ie At half forward, Gresham near the boundary from just outside of the 50 m line (immediately below where I was sitting) and as Gresham prepares to take his kick Macrae (11) trots across between Gresham and the player on the mark from the boundary line to the field of play.

Umpire right there. But no 50m? WTF. Has the rule changed?

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If you are referring to an incident in the 3rd quarter , on the interchange bench side of the ground, kicking to the Coventry end, then I can help you with that one, SR. On that occasion, the Dogs player was following his opponent, Billings, who had run through the same gap. As he was within 5 metres of Billings, he was entitled to do that.

Apologies if you are referring to another incident.


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Re: Why no 50 m penalty to Gresham?

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BigMart wrote:Because he was following Jack Billings through and time off had been blown. Did not deviate from following Billings
hang on a minute. Time off or not, if any opponent is in the protected zone, or a runner goes too close,
it's 50m isn't it?


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Re: Why no 50 m penalty to Gresham?

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BigMart wrote:Because he was following Jack Billings through and time off had been blown. Did not deviate from following Billings
So there are exceptions? I didn't know that, just hope they are consistent with it


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Re: Why no 50 m penalty to Gresham?

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You can follow your direct opponent as long as you don't deviate.


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Re: Why no 50 m penalty to Gresham?

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WellardSaint wrote:
CURLY wrote:Why didn't they pay that contested mark to Paddy? Clear mark paid 99.9 % of the time.
which one?
Think it was the second quarter had front spot double grabbed it.


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Re: Why no 50 m penalty to Gresham?

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It was early in the 3rd where the players run out.


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It was early in the 3rd where the players run out.


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Re: Why no 50 m penalty to Gresham?

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BigMart wrote:Because he was following Jack Billings through and time off had been blown. Did not deviate from following Billings
Why did he blow time off.


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Re: Why no 50 m penalty to Gresham?

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George27 wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:Am I the only one that is wondering why the umpire missed paying a super obvious 50m penalty to Gresham at a vital stage of the game?

ie At half forward, Gresham near the boundary from just outside of the 50 m line (immediately below where I was sitting) and as Gresham prepares to take his kick Macrae (11) trots across between Gresham and the player on the mark from the boundary line to the field of play.

Umpire right there. But no 50m? WTF. Has the rule changed?

Certain goal what a stage when we were not far down.
If you are referring to an incident in the 3rd quarter , on the interchange bench side of the ground, kicking to the Coventry end, then I can help you with that one, SR. On that occasion, the Dogs player was following his opponent, Billings, who had run through the same gap. As he was within 5 metres of Billings, he was entitled to do that.

Apologies if you are referring to another incident.
No. That was the one.

I did not release time off had been blown.


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BigMart wrote:Because he was following Jack Billings through and time off had been blown. Did not deviate from following Billings

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Re: Why no 50 m penalty to Gresham?

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16.1.2 Protected Area
The Protected Area is a corridor which extends from 5 metres either side of the mark to 5 metres either side of, and a 5-metre radius behind, the Player with the football, as illustrated in Diagram 2. No Player shall enter and remain in the Protected Area unless the field Umpire calls “Play On” or the Player is accompanying or following within 5 metres of their opponent.



So looks like it was the Player is accompanying or following within 5 metres of their opponent. There does not seem to be any reference to the umpire calling play off as a factor.


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Post: # 1674063Post BigMart »

Time off was called because he marked the ball in play and went over the boundary line and had to reset and kick over the mark...

Billings ran through the mark at that time, and his opponent followed him... that simple. Gresham was not even in the act of moving forward to kick, he was getting in line with the mark.


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Post: # 1674071Post maverick »

Agree macrae followed billings right in front of me, no 50
Definite mark to paddy in front.


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Re: Why no 50 m penalty to Gresham?

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WellardSaint wrote:
BigMart wrote:Because he was following Jack Billings through and time off had been blown. Did not deviate from following Billings
hang on a minute. Time off or not, if any opponent is in the protected zone, or a runner goes too close,
it's 50m isn't it?
Except if he is closely following an opponent.
Another situation that can arise is if the man on the mark is back from the mark it is possible for someone to run across providing he is also back from the mark.
The grey area is what happens if a player is down on the ground inside the protected zone, gets to his feet and exits the protected zone by running forwards and maybe closer to the player about to kick.
He is supposed to exit the protected zone as quickly as possible and not interfere with the player with the ball.


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BigMart wrote:Time off was called because he marked the ball in play and went over the boundary line and had to reset and kick over the mark...

Billings ran through the mark at that time, and his opponent followed him... that simple. Gresham was not even in the act of moving forward to kick, he was getting in line with the mark.
Time off is called if the player goes outside the boundary or puts the ball on the ground.
I believe the shot clock only restarts when the umpire signals play back on (when the ball is picked up).


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