North are eyeing off our "big fish"

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North are eyeing off our "big fish"

Post: # 1672481Post saint-stu »

Looks like we have some very strong competition to land a big fish at the end of the season. North are making offers to Josh Kelly and Dustin Martin.

I'm surprised we're not more on the front foot with this given this has been the long term plan.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/n ... wans5.html


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Post: # 1672487Post whiskers3614 »

Do not want!

Maybe North going after Martin is in response to Kelly knocking them back and wanting to come to us!


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Post: # 1672489Post saint-stu »

whiskers3614 wrote:Do not want!

Maybe North going after Martin is in response to Kelly knocking them back and wanting to come to us!
Oooh I hope so. I do like the idea of getting a free agent though. Salary cap cost, but zero draft position cost.


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Post: # 1672490Post whiskers3614 »

saint-stu wrote:
whiskers3614 wrote:Do not want!

Maybe North going after Martin is in response to Kelly knocking them back and wanting to come to us!
Oooh I hope so. I do like the idea of getting a free agent though. Salary cap cost, but zero draft position cost.
What about the psychological cost of another pea-brained bogan on our list?


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Post: # 1672495Post saintsRrising »

saint-stu wrote:
I'm surprised we're not more on the front foot with this given this has been the long term plan.
How do you know that the Saints are not?

I would have thought that negotiating through the media was not the best way to go about doing things.


You can be sure whichever players that the Saints are targeting that they will be in discussion with that player, or players, managers.


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Post: # 1672496Post saint-stu »

whiskers3614 wrote:
saint-stu wrote:
whiskers3614 wrote:Do not want!

Maybe North going after Martin is in response to Kelly knocking them back and wanting to come to us!
Oooh I hope so. I do like the idea of getting a free agent though. Salary cap cost, but zero draft position cost.
What about the psychological cost of another pea-brained bogan on our list?
It's interesting. Trout goes on about "character" when speaking about draft prospects, but it seems we went against that with our recent recruit. He has been the source of two controversies already. Pros probably outweigh the cons all the same. But I wonder how many you can take before you develop a bad culture?

On the other hand, Michael Gardiner hardly put a foot wrong when he came over and was outstanding for a few years.


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Post: # 1672497Post whiskers3614 »

saint-stu wrote:
whiskers3614 wrote:
saint-stu wrote:
whiskers3614 wrote:Do not want!

Maybe North going after Martin is in response to Kelly knocking them back and wanting to come to us!
Oooh I hope so. I do like the idea of getting a free agent though. Salary cap cost, but zero draft position cost.
What about the psychological cost of another pea-brained bogan on our list?
It's interesting. Trout goes on about "character" when speaking about draft prospects, but it seems we went against that with our recent recruit. He has been the source of two controversies already. Pros probably outweigh the cons all the same. But I wonder how many you can take before you develop a bad culture?

On the other hand, Michael Gardiner hardly put a foot wrong when he came over and was outstanding for a few years.
Gardiner pulled his head in when he and his playmates were split up.
Not sure that bringing in another known idiot would enhance the prospects of the one (at least) already on our books!


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Post: # 1672508Post Jacks Back »

As long as we don't get another player from the dopers then I'll be happy. They're nothing but trouble, I tells ya!


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Post: # 1672511Post thejiggingsaint »

Wouldn't touch Martin with a barge pole. Kelly? now you're talkin!


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Post: # 1672512Post The Fireman »

whiskers3614 wrote:
saint-stu wrote:
whiskers3614 wrote:Do not want!

Maybe North going after Martin is in response to Kelly knocking them back and wanting to come to us!
Oooh I hope so. I do like the idea of getting a free agent though. Salary cap cost, but zero draft position cost.
What about the psychological cost of another pea-brained bogan on our list?
I want that pea brain on our list.


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Post: # 1672515Post thejiggingsaint »

Be careful what you wish for! :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Post: # 1672517Post Enrico_Misso »

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Post: # 1672519Post thejiggingsaint »

We've got the opportunity to be considered and shrewd about just who we recruit for 2018. We should take that opportunity, and practice a very considered approach to available Free Agents.


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Post: # 1672529Post Sainternist »

Can't believe people are turning their noses up to Dusty. I'd take him in a heartbeat. He's exactly the type of player we need.


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Post: # 1672537Post saintspremiers »

Sainternist wrote:Can't believe people are turning their noses up to Dusty. I'd take him in a heartbeat. He's exactly the type of player we need.
Dusty won't leave Richmond. They simply can't let a champion like that go. Won't happen.


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Post: # 1672538Post mullet »

saintsRrising wrote:
saint-stu wrote:
I'm surprised we're not more on the front foot with this given this has been the long term plan.
How do you know that the Saints are not?

I would have thought that negotiating through the media was not the best way to go about doing things.


You can be sure whichever players that the Saints are targeting that they will be in discussion with that player, or players, managers.
Ha thought the same. How dare the recruiters not come on here and ask our opinion :lol:


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Post: # 1672540Post Premium89 »

mullet wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:
saint-stu wrote:
I'm surprised we're not more on the front foot with this given this has been the long term plan.
How do you know that the Saints are not?

I would have thought that negotiating through the media was not the best way to go about doing things.


You can be sure whichever players that the Saints are targeting that they will be in discussion with that player, or players, managers.
Ha thought the same. How dare the recruiters not come on here and ask our opinion :lol:
Let's not forget that everyone knew buddy was going to GWS for a whole year...


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Post: # 1672543Post ace »

If you want a player you only need to talk to his player agent.
Make it known that you are interested and if the player is interested you will make a bid.
Making offers publicly does nothing to help your chances only hinders them by creating unwanted tensions for the player in question with his existing club and team mates.
The player does not appreciate it.

However if your club is under pressure to land a big fish and you realise that you are unlikely to get anyone you have to make a noise.
That is what North is doing.
You have to make public that you offered $9 million over 9 years to Kelly
You have to make public that you offered over $5 million over 5 years to Dustin Martin.
You let your supporters and other clubs know what you are offering.
You have to do so to placate supporters who are angry because instead of being contenders for a premiership you are contenders for the wooden spoon.
You know that you wont be able to land a big fish because the fish wants to play finals footy and hopefully win premierships.
Norf have the added problem that every player saw how they terminated the playing careers of footballers like Dal Santo who were still playing good football just as an excuse for the failings of their coach.

Hopefully St Kilda is talking to player agents and keeping their mouths shut.


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Post: # 1672550Post stonecold »

Pretty much tells us that Kelly is doing one of two things, staying put or coming to the Saints, let's hope it's the second option!!!!!


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Post: # 1672553Post thejiggingsaint »

"ACED IT" ace! Spot-on!


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Post: # 1672556Post stonecold »

thejiggingsaint wrote:"ACED IT" ace! Spot-on!
North are 'not a destination club', so they have to do what they are doing!!!!!

We are a 'destination club', so we can afford to go about our recruiting in a less public forum!!!!!


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Post: # 1672559Post saynta »

saintsRrising wrote:
saint-stu wrote:
I'm surprised we're not more on the front foot with this given this has been the long term plan.
How do you know that the Saints are not?

I would have thought that negotiating through the media was not the best way to go about doing things.


You can be sure whichever players that the Saints are targeting that they will be in discussion with that player, or players, managers.
Correct. It is just Caro, a Richmond supporter being Caro. She is pissed off with Martin's manager.


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Post: # 1672567Post magnifisaint »

North's bait is off. They won't be around in 15 years.


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Post: # 1672569Post magnifisaint »

saynta wrote:
saintsRrising wrote:
saint-stu wrote:
I'm surprised we're not more on the front foot with this given this has been the long term plan.
How do you know that the Saints are not?

I would have thought that negotiating through the media was not the best way to go about doing things.


You can be sure whichever players that the Saints are targeting that they will be in discussion with that player, or players, managers.
Correct. It is just Caro, a Richmond supporter being Caro. She is pissed off with Martin's manager.
Caro is just a disgrace.


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Post: # 1672576Post st.byron »

Sainternist wrote:Can't believe people are turning their noses up to Dusty. I'd take him in a heartbeat. He's exactly the type of player we need.
Me too. Gun.


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