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Perspective.

Post: # 1671558Post Joe Bloggs »

There are better teams than us. We will be beaten by better teams.we are not the best team in the league.


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Post: # 1671562Post Wayne42 »

This team won't win us our 2nd flag, back to the drawing board for Trout and his cohorts. :cry: :cry:


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Post: # 1671565Post Con Gorozidis »

Joe Bloggs wrote:There are better teams than us. We will be beaten by better teams.we are not the best team in the league.
On our own dung heap.
That is is really humiliating part... I could handle losing to them in Sydney but not down here.

I think people lost perspective when they tried to convince themselves Carlton are a good side after last week. Carlton are truly s***-house. Tony was having a lend of us.


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Post: # 1671574Post Joe Bloggs »

Totally out played . They are our bogey team.


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Post: # 1671580Post BigMart »

So we concede when we play better teams?

Sydney are not a top 4 team, they have flogged us

It was a terrible effort, not a positive from where I sat


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Post: # 1671617Post Joe Bloggs »

Yes we concede they the swans are a better team.


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Post: # 1671620Post BigMart »

Perhaps we shouldn't have played then?


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Post: # 1671628Post Wayne42 »

Maybe we should have "played" instead of putting up that effortless crap.


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Post: # 1671632Post Joe Bloggs »

BigMart wrote:Perhaps we shouldn't have played then?
They made us look like school boys . No doubt.


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Post: # 1671633Post Goose is king »

I see it as a missed opportunity to cement ourselves but a massive opportunity to learn where we need to get to and be. Perhaps the loss we had to have as all this talk of being contenders is premature unless we learn and move on from these matches.


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Post: # 1671642Post Captain Impossible »

Gees I hate naming players, but McKenzie and Dunstan turned it over all day. In their defence, no one ran for them. Shocking performance.


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Goose is king wrote:I see it as a missed opportunity to cement ourselves but a massive opportunity to learn where we need to get to and be. Perhaps the loss we had to have as all this talk of being contenders is premature unless we learn and move on from these matches.
This.


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Post: # 1671657Post Wayne42 »

Captain Impossible wrote:Gees I hate naming players, but McKenzie and Dunstan turned it over all day. In their defence, no one ran for them. Shocking performance.
We don't have the list to contend, unfortunately, we need to recruit A grade AFL players, whoever they are.

The TAC cup is the main feeder for the AFL, unfortunately, it's almost impossible to predict how those players will perform at AFL level, regardless of what pick they are drafted at.

Probably why, when drafting players, clubs look at youth and experienced players.


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Post: # 1671659Post SaintPav »

Brilliant


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Post: # 1671662Post ChrisRyanSaints »

We have 1 genuine a graders. Reiwoldt.
We have 1 geniune a grade yougster. Gresham.

Reat are B and C. We'll make finals but never really threaten. Good effort we were screwed in 2013. Worse than fitzroy 96


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Post: # 1671663Post SydneySainter »

Swans lost their first 6 matches and this was a back-to-back trip to Melbourne, coming off a 6 day break no less.

Saints on the other hand were coming off a 7 day break and haven't left Melbourne for 3 weeks, and we got flogged.

Swans aren't a top 4 team IMO. So in my perspective, a very bad loss.

But, hopefully this is another one of those reality checks we need to have.


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Post: # 1671665Post ChrisRyanSaints »

Captain Impossible wrote:Gees I hate naming players, but McKenzie and Dunstan turned it over all day. In their defence, no one ran for them. Shocking performance.
Mckenzie was good today. Yea bad disoosal at times but thats the level up in tempo. His work and vision was great.
If we drop him we should sack richo as that would prove he has no idea


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Captain Impossible wrote:Gees I hate naming players, but McKenzie and Dunstan turned it over all day. In their defence, no one ran for them. Shocking performance.
did you watch the game? dunstan had our third best disposal efficiency today (85%) D-Mac started poorly but improved (75%).
Billings, Acres, and Sinclair - all outside mids had under 70%.


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Post: # 1671668Post PremiershipSaint »

Knowing we aren't good enough makes it worse.


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SydneySainter wrote:Swans lost their first 6 matches and this was a back-to-back trip to Melbourne, coming off a 6 day break no less.

Saints on the other hand were coming off a 7 day break and haven't left Melbourne for 3 weeks, and we got flogged.

Swans aren't a top 4 team IMO. So in my perspective, a very bad loss.

But, hopefully this is another one of those reality checks we need to have.
Yes theyre top 4. They were 2016 minor premiers easily and have had number 1 picks 2014/2015/2016


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Post: # 1671678Post Joe Bloggs »

They are contenders.no doubt. No one beats us like that.


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Post: # 1671679Post Wayne42 »

SaintPav wrote:Brilliant
No we weren't


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ChrisRyanSaints wrote:
SydneySainter wrote:Swans lost their first 6 matches and this was a back-to-back trip to Melbourne, coming off a 6 day break no less.

Saints on the other hand were coming off a 7 day break and haven't left Melbourne for 3 weeks, and we got flogged.

Swans aren't a top 4 team IMO. So in my perspective, a very bad loss.

But, hopefully this is another one of those reality checks we need to have.
Yes theyre top 4. They were 2016 minor premiers easily and have had number 1 picks 2014/2015/2016
Swans are 3-6 in an 18 team. Swans have a better chance of winning the spoon than being top 4.

Also, Saints had the 1st pick in 2014, Carlton in 2015 and Essendon in 2016. I'm not sure which number 1 picks you were referring to.


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Post: # 1671689Post carn_sainter »

It's not that we lost, or even by how much, but why.

We were totally impotent forward of the ball.
Almost every kick inside 50 was either a bomb it n hope, or missed a target.
Beaten structurally, around the ground and around the ball.
Smashed on the spread.

Very worrying. We got away with it against the blues, but that was the blues.

Against good teams, we're easy to defend.

We defend really well, midfield pressure and contest is pretty good, but our forwards and how we move it to them are easy to defend. Worrying.


As a side note, we're really bad at kick-ins. I don't have the stats but I'm sure we basically never score from a kick-in and concede regularly from the opposition's.


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Joe Bloggs wrote:
Goose is king wrote:I see it as a missed opportunity to cement ourselves but a massive opportunity to learn where we need to get to and be. Perhaps the loss we had to have as all this talk of being contenders is premature unless we learn and move on from these matches.
This.
Yes


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