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Postby Dave McNamara » Tue 16 May 2017 6:15pm

I just wish that (regardless of their possible gender/genetics/preferences/whatever) a certain journalist would 'move forward' re their apparent vendetta against our wondrous club.

False accusations were made against several of our players.

That saga dragged on and on and on, and then just kept going on... with repeated back page (and even front page) headlines, causing great and undeserved distress to several of our players. I wonder if some of our players, still haven't recovered(??????)

That saga dragged on and on and on, and then just kept going on... with repeated back page (and even front page) headlines, costing our club millions in sponsorship. And 'millions' is literal, not a 'turn of phrase'. Check our balance sheet. We still haven't recovered.

Finally, the confession came from the maker of those false accusations. But, that story (non-story it seems :x ) was hidden away somewhere about page 8!!!!!!
To this day, most of the wider public don't even know about that confession.

Our club could have sued the accuser. It was certainly called for. But our club actually has some class. (One of the many many reasons I love our club. :D )
So instead, our club provided the accuser with support, even with accommodation during a difficult period at their family home. Talk about 'turning the other cheek'.
To this day, most of the wider public don't even know about that.

Interestingly, one accusation made, that has not been withdrawn nor apologised for, concerned the real source of the accuser's agnst. That source used to play for another club, and now plays for yet another club much further north.
To this day, most of the wider public don't even know about that, either.



Ok, some of the stuff written in that deleted thread (and elsewhere) may have crossed a line or two. But, given our beloved club's history of sustained, painful, damaging, and totally undeserved media misrepresentation...

is it really any wonder that Saint's fans are now so passionately up-in-arms over this latest bout of all-too-familiar media hysteria, this time, over the fallout from Marc M's spray on the w'end?????? :evil:

We have good reason!!!!!!








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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby Stian » Tue 16 May 2017 6:41pm

[quote="Dave McNamara"]I just wish that (regardless of their possible gender/genetics/preferences/whatever) a certain journalist would 'move forward' re their apparent vendetta against our wondrous club.

False accusations were made against several of our players.

That saga dragged on and on and on, and then just kept going on... with repeated back page (and even front page) headlines, causing great and undeserved distress to several of our players. I wonder if some of our players, still haven't recovered(??????)

That saga dragged on and on and on, and then just kept going on... with repeated back page (and even front page) headlines, costing our club millions in sponsorship. And 'millions' is literal, not a 'turn of phrase'. Check our balance sheet. We still haven't recovered.

Finally, the confession came from the maker of those false accusations. But, that story (non-story it seems :x ) was hidden away somewhere about page 8!!!!!!
To this day, most of the wider public don't even know about that confession.

Our club could have sued the accuser. It was certainly called for. But our club actually has some class. (One of the many many reasons I love our club. :D )
So instead, our club provided the accuser with support, even with accommodation during a difficult period at their family home. Talk about 'turning the other cheek'.
To this day, most of the wider public don't even know about that.

Interestingly, one accusation made, that has not been withdrawn nor apologised for, concerned the real source of the accuser's agnst. That source used to play for another club, and now plays for yet another club much further north.
To this day, most of the wider public don't even know about that, either.



Ok, some of the stuff written in that deleted thread (and elsewhere) may have crossed a line or two. But, given our beloved club's history of sustained, painful, damaging, and totally undeserved media misrepresentation...

is it really any wonder that Saint's fans are now so passionately up-in-arms over this latest bout of all-too-familiar media hysteria, this time, over the fallout from Marc M's spray on the w'end?????? :evil:

We have good reason!!!!!!


Good on you Dave M - very, very, very well said.
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby To the top » Tue 16 May 2017 6:46pm

Upper class versus the plebs!

The tax rorters versus PAYG tax payers who have no ability to rort.

They sit above the law as it applies to you and me because of their "importance" to society.

Hence the salary cap rorting.

And the financial state the Club fell into - and is still in.
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby True Believer » Tue 16 May 2017 6:47pm

And to follow on from Dave

- Semper, it is worth noting there is no such thing as "reverse" sexism that you referred to in the deleted thread. There is only sexism - a predetermined position towards someone based on their gender......
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby kosifantutti » Tue 16 May 2017 6:51pm

Too long, didn't read.

But I just want to thank the mods for taking control of the situation.
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby stonecold » Tue 16 May 2017 7:01pm

Well written Dave, particularly love your use of the extra explanation mark, all jokes aside though, well done!!!!!
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby saynta » Tue 16 May 2017 7:10pm

The saints have apologised. MURPHY HAS NOT.
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby saynta » Tue 16 May 2017 7:12pm

Send me a pm dave re what has been deleted
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby stonecold » Tue 16 May 2017 7:13pm

saynta wrote:The saints have apologised. MURPHY HAS NOT.


He's happy to play victim, should man up like our boys have!!!!!
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby To the top » Tue 16 May 2017 7:22pm

This matter highlights what I detest about the Murdoch media (including his influence at 9 and 10 - then you have Stokes at 7!).

They tag people with names, so Cousins is always prefaced by "Drug addict" (which is an illness), the lady in trouble overseas as "Cocain ....." and the list goes on and on including our two best tennis players and politicians from the Political Parties Murdoch seeks to destroy.

And St Kilda FC and its players are not spared.

Those who escape this attention are those in Murdoch's employ or those who represent the Political Party he supports.

Including that he himself heads a Company which illegally tapped telephone conversations of private individuals.

A blight on society.

Growing up in SA, I saw first hand the "influence" of the Murdoch media (including in the Chamberlain case, where Murdoch had her guilty day in and day out with his headlines and doctored photographs) - and I note that the continual political attacks have lost their currency because, despite Murdoch's best efforts, SA return Labor governments in a one paper town.

Murdoch delivers us individuals such as Trump.
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby SemperFidelis » Tue 16 May 2017 8:03pm

True Believer wrote:And to follow on from Dave

- Semper, it is worth noting there is no such thing as "reverse" sexism that you referred to in the deleted thread. There is only sexism - a predetermined position towards someone based on their gender......


Thanks True Believer. I get that you don't know me. I get that this is one of your favourite topics. But honestly, if you want to try and educate me on gender politics semantics, I'm really not buying. I'm tired. The internet has been a horrible place all around for the last 48 hours.

I don't usually bother commenting on this stuff. It is a no win game in a place where people mostly have pre-determined ideas. The really appalling remarks in the second paragraph of that particular post you reference really riled me. I'm sure you can appreciate why.

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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby Trev from the Bush » Tue 16 May 2017 10:22pm

To the top wrote:This matter highlights what I detest about the Murdoch media (including his influence at 9 and 10 - then you have Stokes at 7!).

They tag people with names, so Cousins is always prefaced by "Drug addict" (which is an illness), the lady in trouble overseas as "Cocain ....." and the list goes on and on including our two best tennis players and politicians from the Political Parties Murdoch seeks to destroy.

And St Kilda FC and its players are not spared.

Those who escape this attention are those in Murdoch's employ or those who represent the Political Party he supports.

Including that he himself heads a Company which illegally tapped telephone conversations of private individuals.

A blight on society.

Growing up in SA, I saw first hand the "influence" of the Murdoch media (including in the Chamberlain case, where Murdoch had her guilty day in and day out with his headlines and doctored photographs) - and I note that the continual political attacks have lost their currency because, despite Murdoch's best efforts, SA return Labor governments in a one paper town.

Murdoch delivers us individuals such as Trump.


Quite so! None of the "quality journalism" you get from Fairfax.

Hang on! Who does Caro work for again?????

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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby dals_da_bomb » Tue 16 May 2017 10:27pm

I can just make very clear that any thread deleted was IN NO WAY footy/stkilda related.
The thread was deleted due violating the forum rules in a way that could not be disputed.

Nothing deleted from the forum was adding any opinions to anything of relevance to the forum or topics discussed. It was completely unrelated to talking Stkilda and Football.

I would like to stress this. MODS have taken great care today to allow the passion that binds us be freely shared, alas under the guidance of the forum rules. Following through threads today you will see this to be the case.

From that - thank you for a great post!

And thanks Kosi - what a day its been today... and you know it really backs up the point of this post.
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby To the top » Wed 17 May 2017 9:06am

Granted the woman you refer to writes for Fairfax - as does Vanstone - but I do not read either

What Murdoch does is refer to (for example) Cousins as a drug addict at every mention

The woman you refer to has the Murdoch trait and that depreciates from Fairfax, granted

What I note also is that the Frenantle player requested the Stokes network not to film him - and they continued to do so leading to the incident

So exactly where do the media get off?

Same as an intoxicated Fevola being given a microphone by a television network then proceeding to castigate him

No responsibility

The media may always have the last word but their reputation is trash

They make the old "Truth" look responsible
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby To the top » Wed 17 May 2017 9:17am

I would just add that generally and across the majority of its reporting, starting from Gittens who I do read (and do not always agree with) Fairfax has absolutely no comparison to Murdoch which is unadulterated trash

Then their employees are featured on the electronic media they control!!

If they have their presence in the written media why also in the electronic media?
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby dragit » Wed 17 May 2017 11:36am

dals_da_bomb wrote:any thread deleted was IN NO WAY footy/stkilda related.

It's no biggie but… can you just bang those loose threads into the animal enclosure?
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby dals_da_bomb » Wed 17 May 2017 2:02pm

Absolutely that can be done, and will be done.
However the thread would of violated AE rules and I considered this and deleted it. Prior to deleting it i made sure the appropriateness of moving it or deleting it.


WHY HAS MY QUOTE FEATURE NEVER WORKED EVER IN 7 YEARS?? WHY.
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby WellardSaint » Wed 17 May 2017 2:19pm

dals_da_bomb wrote:Absolutely that can be done, and will be done.
However the thread would of violated AE rules and I considered this and deleted it. Prior to deleting it i made sure the appropriateness of moving it or deleting it.


WHY HAS MY QUOTE FEATURE NEVER WORKED EVER IN 7 YEARS?? WHY.

I have no idea.
We need new assistant coaches.
The current ones are underperforming. "Player development" is a phrase that means nothing at Seaford.
Who has developed? Who has gone backwards this year?
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby SemperFidelis » Wed 17 May 2017 2:23pm

WellardSaint wrote:
dals_da_bomb wrote:Absolutely that can be done, and will be done.
However the thread would of violated AE rules and I considered this and deleted it. Prior to deleting it i made sure the appropriateness of moving it or deleting it.


WHY HAS MY QUOTE FEATURE NEVER WORKED EVER IN 7 YEARS?? WHY.

I have no idea.


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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby Enrico_Misso » Wed 17 May 2017 2:43pm

Good summary DMc.
You make some good points re our negative media coverage.

But you didn't call out the ring leader - the so called "journalist" who has consistently spewed forth incorrect and unsubstantiated negativities against our club. Even when proved wrong she never apologises and just looks forward to the next opportunity to lambaste our club and it's "flawed" scandal plagued culture.
She has been and continues to be our club's biggest image problem because of her slanted, distorted views. She never misses even the slightest chance to bag us and propagate her lies in newspaper, online, TV and radio.
Somewhere, someway a long time ago someone associated with our club must have said something really bad to her, and like a maggot with a piece of excrement she won't let it go.
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby dals_da_bomb » Wed 17 May 2017 3:47pm

[quote="SemperFidelis"][quote="WellardSaint"][quote="dals_da_bomb"]Absolutely that can be done, and will be done.
However the thread would of violated AE rules and I considered this and deleted it. Prior to deleting it i made sure the appropriateness of moving it or deleting it.


WHY HAS MY QUOTE FEATURE NEVER WORKED EVER IN 7 YEARS?? WHY.[/quote]
I have no idea.[/quote]

Blame the Lannisters[/quote]


Look at this.. I bet this doesnt work either.

The mention of Lannisters has a very very positive impact on my mood.
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby WellardSaint » Wed 17 May 2017 3:49pm

dals_da_bomb wrote:
SemperFidelis wrote:
WellardSaint wrote:
dals_da_bomb wrote:Absolutely that can be done, and will be done.
However the thread would of violated AE rules and I considered this and deleted it. Prior to deleting it i made sure the appropriateness of moving it or deleting it.


WHY HAS MY QUOTE FEATURE NEVER WORKED EVER IN 7 YEARS?? WHY.

I have no idea.


Blame the Lannisters



Look at this.. I bet this doesnt work either.

The mention of Lannisters has a very very positive impact on my mood.
Season 7 is coming.


It half-worked.
At least it says [/quote] at the start and finish
so we all know it's a quote :lol: :shock: :mrgreen:
We need new assistant coaches.
The current ones are underperforming. "Player development" is a phrase that means nothing at Seaford.
Who has developed? Who has gone backwards this year?
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby WellardSaint » Wed 17 May 2017 3:52pm

Ms Dals da bomb,
when you select the "quote" button,
and your text box appears,
what exactly do you do?
Do you move your cursor straight down to the line after the [/quote] thingimibob?
are you on an Apple computer?
If not, do you use Google Chrome as your default browser?
I have no IT knowledge, just asking in case it helps
We need new assistant coaches.
The current ones are underperforming. "Player development" is a phrase that means nothing at Seaford.
Who has developed? Who has gone backwards this year?
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby dals_da_bomb » Wed 17 May 2017 4:22pm

[quote="WellardSaint"]Ms Dals da bomb,
when you select the "[b]quote[/b]" button,
and your text box appears,
what exactly do you do?
Do you move your cursor straight down to the line after the [/quote] thingimibob?
are you on an Apple computer?
If not, do you use Google Chrome as your default browser?
I have no IT knowledge, just asking in case it helps[/quote]


Right..
Mrs..

Ive hit quote..
Ive moved the mouse down to where i write the text..yes to thingimibob
Im writing the text!!
Not on an apple..
Yes to google chrome - while im at work.
but the same thing has always happened even at home.

If you solve this I owe you a beer or something drastic!
I will never ever live it down if the damn mouse is not in the right spot.
please dont let it be something stupid like that. Im getting severe anxiety that Its been something really dumb the whole time.
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Re: Deleted thread - we have good reason

Postby dals_da_bomb » Wed 17 May 2017 4:22pm

Im quoting you.

im trying something different
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