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Re: Team v Cats

Postby WellardSaint » Fri 21 Apr 2017 8:07pm

Nathan Brown
will he be sent to Tom Hawkins?
Or will Jake be asked to take on the monster?
Thoughts...
Summertime just means lots of sunburn, lots of pain.
Long wait till footy season, when the pain of sunburn is replaced by the pain of missed opportunities, missed shots at goal,
mistakes under pressure...
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby stonecold » Fri 21 Apr 2017 8:10pm

WellardSaint wrote:Nathan Brown
will he be sent to Tom Hawkins?
Or will Jake be asked to take on the monster?
Thoughts...


Brown, keep big Jake up higher!!!!!
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby dragit » Fri 21 Apr 2017 8:15pm

stonecold wrote:
WellardSaint wrote:Nathan Brown
will he be sent to Tom Hawkins?
Or will Jake be asked to take on the monster?
Thoughts...


Brown, keep big Jake up higher!!!!!
:wink:

Yeah I hope that Brown is used to quell the monster forward as that is how he was sold to us…

Carlisle is a much better player and user of the footy so hopefully he has a little more freedom by not minding their #1 forward.
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby WellardSaint » Fri 21 Apr 2017 8:20pm

stonecold wrote:
WellardSaint wrote:Nathan Brown
will he be sent to Tom Hawkins?
Or will Jake be asked to take on the monster?
Thoughts...


Brown, keep big Jake up higher!!!!!
:wink:

Is it wrong of me to compare Brown to Delaney, so early in Brown's tenure?
He seems to be a whole lot better than Delaney so far, but do we wait a few more games before giving him the tick of approval?
Against the Crows forwards, and the Swans
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Long wait till footy season, when the pain of sunburn is replaced by the pain of missed opportunities, missed shots at goal,
mistakes under pressure...
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby dragit » Fri 21 Apr 2017 8:33pm

WellardSaint wrote:
stonecold wrote:
WellardSaint wrote:Nathan Brown
will he be sent to Tom Hawkins?
Or will Jake be asked to take on the monster?
Thoughts...


Brown, keep big Jake up higher!!!!!
:wink:

Is it wrong of me to compare Brown to Delaney, so early in Brown's tenure?
He seems to be a whole lot better than Delaney so far, but do we wait a few more games before giving him the tick of approval?
Against the Crows forwards, and the Swans

Think it's totally fair bruh... they essentially play exactly the same role, Brown seems to be an upgrade (so far) which is great as I was skeptical.
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby desertsaint » Fri 21 Apr 2017 8:34pm

WellardSaint wrote:
Playon wrote:Would of liked to of seen why we recruited Stevens.

But good luck to Billy, Meatball and Long ( for second game )

And Jacks back :)

Coach of Sandy Zebs, no less, said of Koby 2 weeks ago:
" I can see why we went so hard to grab him, he's well above VFL level"

Dunstan should be "managed" or "rested" or whatever, but hell, give Koby a crack.
Year../Average Disposals../Games
2013......16.3..................12
2014......17.4..................12
2015......20.3..................20
2016......22.3..................19

Tony74 said "nobody will play every game this year, they will all be managed"
So drop Dunstan and "manage" him for Chrissake

whose stats are these? they aren't Koby's and Dunstan disn't get drafted until the end of 2013.
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby BigMart » Fri 21 Apr 2017 8:40pm

They sure as hell aren't Dunstan's

I wouldn't be complaining with those numbers
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby Jacks Back » Fri 21 Apr 2017 8:43pm

Playon wrote:Would of liked to of seen why we recruited Stevens.

But good luck to Billy, Meatball and Long ( for second game )

And Jacks back :)

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Re: Team v Cats

Postby WellardSaint » Fri 21 Apr 2017 8:46pm

desertsaint wrote:
WellardSaint wrote:
Playon wrote:Would of liked to of seen why we recruited Stevens.

But good luck to Billy, Meatball and Long ( for second game )

And Jacks back :)

Coach of Sandy Zebs, no less, said of Koby 2 weeks ago:
" I can see why we went so hard to grab him, he's well above VFL level"

Dunstan should be "managed" or "rested" or whatever, but hell, give Koby a crack.
Koby's stats now corrected:
Year../Average Disposals../Games
2013......18.3..................19
2014......17.4..................20
2015......20.3..................12
2016......22.3..................12

Tony74 said "nobody will play every game this year, they will all be managed"
So drop Dunstan and "manage" him for Chrissake

whose stats are these? they aren't Koby's and Dunstan disn't get drafted until the end of 2013.

Koby, I got them from thefinalsiren.com
but I had the games mixed up :shock:
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby Playon » Fri 21 Apr 2017 9:05pm

Jacks Back wrote:
Playon wrote:Would of liked to of seen why we recruited Stevens.

But good luck to Billy, Meatball and Long ( for second game )

And Jacks back :)

HELLO!!


Must be an omen :)
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby MC Gusto » Fri 21 Apr 2017 9:14pm

I reckon koby is earnig his spot. Once he gets it I doubt he'll lose it for sometime. I'd expect to see him come in soon
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby Impatient Sainter » Fri 21 Apr 2017 9:54pm

MC Gusto wrote:I reckon koby is earnig his spot. Once he gets it I doubt he'll lose it for sometime. I'd expect to see him come in soon


Farkin hope so this Dunstan & Richo love is getting beyond ridiculous! Ill be praying for a late change Dunstan Out & K Stevens In.
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby saynta » Fri 21 Apr 2017 10:29pm

WellardSaint wrote:
stonecold wrote:
WellardSaint wrote:Nathan Brown
will he be sent to Tom Hawkins?
Or will Jake be asked to take on the monster?
Thoughts...


Brown, keep big Jake up higher!!!!!
:wink:

Is it wrong of me to compare Brown to Delaney, so early in Brown's tenure?
He seems to be a whole lot better than Delaney so far, but do we wait a few more games before giving him the tick of approval?
Against the Crows forwards, and the Swans



That's meant to be a joke, right?

Delaney was a very average VFL footballer whilst Brown was full back in a premiership team.
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby Impatient Sainter » Fri 21 Apr 2017 10:49pm

longtimesaint wrote:
Impatient Sainter wrote:What does Dunstan have to do to get dropped 11 possessions last week, he is slower than treacle and cant kick the clinch goals? He would have been first out IMO!

Just as well the team is picked by people who know what they are doing.


We will see whos right when the Cats mids start running off him as he hasnt got the running capacity to be competitive on the spread?
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby dragit » Fri 21 Apr 2017 10:54pm

saynta wrote:
WellardSaint wrote:
stonecold wrote:
WellardSaint wrote:Nathan Brown
will he be sent to Tom Hawkins?
Or will Jake be asked to take on the monster?
Thoughts...


Brown, keep big Jake up higher!!!!!
:wink:

Is it wrong of me to compare Brown to Delaney, so early in Brown's tenure?
He seems to be a whole lot better than Delaney so far, but do we wait a few more games before giving him the tick of approval?
Against the Crows forwards, and the Swans



That's meant to be a joke, right?

Delaney was a very average VFL footballer whilst Brown was full back in a premiership team.

So was Fletcher Roberts last year, doesn't make him a great footballer.
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby BigMart » Fri 21 Apr 2017 10:59pm

Delaney finished high in the b&f in his first year at stk
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby Bluthy » Fri 21 Apr 2017 11:38pm

Worried about our inside game with Armo our big bull out and no real replacement. Steven obviously gives us some ballistic capability but need everyone to pitch in and win some inside ball. Glad the Minch gets another shot - no point keeping him on our list if we don't try the geezer out. We need to work out if he's got it or not at AFL level. Could rotate with Gresham in that small forward/midfielder role which gives us more midfield depth than Lonie.
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby WellardSaint » Sat 22 Apr 2017 1:12am

Bluthy wrote:Worried about our inside game with Armo our big bull out and no real replacement. Steven obviously gives us some ballistic capability but need everyone to pitch in and win some inside ball. Glad the Minch gets another shot - no point keeping him on our list if we don't try the geezer out. We need to work out if he's got it or not at AFL level. Could rotate with Gresham in that small forward/midfielder role which gives us more midfield depth than Lonie.

Bit of a worry about Meatball going missing for long periods. Might be why he was in and out of the seniors
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby elizabethr » Sat 22 Apr 2017 1:15am

MC Gusto wrote:I reckon koby is earnig his spot. Once he gets it I doubt he'll lose it for sometime. I'd expect to see him come in soon

Assumption what !!!
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby BigMart » Sat 22 Apr 2017 8:16am

Or maybe because Minchington plays as a small forward in the seniors?
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby twirlyhair » Sat 22 Apr 2017 9:41am

dragit wrote:
saynta wrote:
WellardSaint wrote:
stonecold wrote:
WellardSaint wrote:Nathan Brown
will he be sent to Tom Hawkins?
Or will Jake be asked to take on the monster?
Thoughts...


Brown, keep big Jake up higher!!!!!
:wink:

Is it wrong of me to compare Brown to Delaney, so early in Brown's tenure?
He seems to be a whole lot better than Delaney so far, but do we wait a few more games before giving him the tick of approval?
Against the Crows forwards, and the Swans



That's meant to be a joke, right?

Delaney was a very average VFL footballer whilst Brown was full back in a premiership team.

So was Fletcher Roberts last year, doesn't make him a great footballer.


Geez our supporters love to criticise our club and its players. We finally get a big defender who has started well for the club, and we look to dis him. Unbelievable.
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby Playon » Sat 22 Apr 2017 11:50am

tony74 wrote:
BigMart wrote:Managing players in the 5th game after a 5 month pre season

Interesting


Players are managed during pre season.
Players are managed during pre season games.
You can't manage them all at the one time.
And most importantly- we have two superior ruckmen with two 6 day breaks coming up. No one ruckman doing 80% of the work would have been able to give 100% in all seven games. Hence managed.


When managed means dropped

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-04-21/b ... -sidelined

Richardson conceded ruckman Tom Hickey would have been dropped even though he "pulled up stiff" from last week's game.

Billy Longer will replace Hickey and play his first game for the season after strong form in the JLT Community Series.

"We would have made the change, we think we've been on the back foot too much at stoppages, " Richardson said.

"We think 'Hick' has some room to move there in terms of being better for us in the ruck.

"But it's time for Billy to have a go, he was really positive in the JLT series, (and) he's had to wait and be patient.

"We're excited about what he might be able to do for our team."
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby Bluthy » Sat 22 Apr 2017 12:01pm

I don't know why people are so obsessed with managed/dropped/injured etc. Tony flagged it would be a rotation/horses for courses thing this year. Hicks has been doing a lot of work in games and maybe struggled without third man up protection. Time to see what Longer can do. Simple as that.

We have a whole squad - we should be using them and trying them out in the big show to see who is progressing and who isn't. We have to make tough delisting decisions at the end of each year and you need to keep putting them through the sieve of senior footy to see if they have nuggets of real gold or just fools gold inside them. Longer will be probably get a shock again how fast and hard AFL footy is. Great for his development to get another taste of it and see what parts of his game hold up and which don't.
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby WellardSaint » Sat 22 Apr 2017 1:13pm

Bluthy wrote:I don't know why people are so obsessed with managed/dropped/injured etc. Tony flagged it would be a rotation/horses for courses thing this year. Hicks has been doing a lot of work in games and maybe struggled without third man up protection. Time to see what Longer can do. Simple as that.

We have a whole squad - we should be using them and trying them out in the big show to see who is progressing and who isn't. We have to make tough delisting decisions at the end of each year and you need to keep putting them through the sieve of senior footy to see if they have nuggets of real gold or just fools gold inside them. Longer will be probably get a shock again how fast and hard AFL footy is. Great for his development to get another taste of it and see what parts of his game hold up and which don't.

Agree with all of this.
My hope is that Longer breaks even in the 1st qtr, getting used to the pace and speed,
then 2nd qtr gets fully into gear, half time listens to where he needs to improve,
then rest of the game really bring all the lessons into play.
I really hope he grows during the game.
It's his chance to shine.
Summertime just means lots of sunburn, lots of pain.
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Re: Team v Cats

Postby dragit » Sat 22 Apr 2017 2:08pm

twirlyhair wrote:
dragit wrote:
saynta wrote:
WellardSaint wrote:
stonecold wrote:
WellardSaint wrote:Nathan Brown
will he be sent to Tom Hawkins?
Or will Jake be asked to take on the monster?
Thoughts...


Brown, keep big Jake up higher!!!!!
:wink:

Is it wrong of me to compare Brown to Delaney, so early in Brown's tenure?
He seems to be a whole lot better than Delaney so far, but do we wait a few more games before giving him the tick of approval?
Against the Crows forwards, and the Swans



That's meant to be a joke, right?

Delaney was a very average VFL footballer whilst Brown was full back in a premiership team.

So was Fletcher Roberts last year, doesn't make him a great footballer.


Geez our supporters love to criticise our club and its players. We finally get a big defender who has started well for the club, and we look to dis him. Unbelievable.

I don't think anyone is dissing him, just comparing him to the last guy we recruited for the same job who played in a similar manner.

Both low possession, spoiling defenders that offer little run and don't take a lot of marks… Delaney played some good games for us, came 5th in our B&F.

Their career stats are basically identical.
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